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So what happens when people begin to openly carry there weapons in public to "fimiliarize" ther public??? Lets find out
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sytasyn_syn Posted: June 16, 2008
sytasyn_syn Posted: June 16, 2008 First off, if you are one of those "The NRA can do no wrong" people then I suggest you sit this one out.
Second, if you are going to get offended...Fuck You, this is my blog. Write me a little hate comment cheif!!!
So there I am surfing the news section off a random site(random sites, best way to get more then one veiw point) and I come across this gem peice of fine reporting on the people and ideas of the NRA. So I decide this would make a perfect subject for my blog since I love bitching about shit anyway.
This article was telling me that those at the NRA encourage this movement to have gun owners to wear their weapons ostentatiously (openly)on their belts, "to make a firearm," in the words of a Los Angeles Times story last week, "as common an accessory as an iPod." Or, as one open carrier said, "Hey, we're normal people who carry guns."
Is thess guy's fucking stupid of what? So your telling me that you want to carry your gun out in the open so that the public will eventually see it as normal as a FUCKING IPOD...AHHHH. Who the fuck are these retards and where do they grow them. I got a question, what happens when someone who happens to see your UNconcealed weapon, decides hes going to walk up behind you, pull it out of your free swingin, easy to see holster and rob you with your own weapon...at which I point I would hope that you would grab the gun, shove it in your mouth and ask him oh so politly to pull the trigger and take the keys to your Black H3 because you should never have gotten in that perdicament and dont deserve the life your granted.
Theres only two reasons I can see someone trying to wear there weapon open like that and I have said it before, I'll say it again:
Reason#1- you are a law enforcement officer of some sort and your job requires you carry a gun in such a nature.
Reason#2-You got a tiny fucking dick and you have to make yourselves feel better by showing off your shiny toys. HEY JACKOFF, IT AINT A TOY AND IT AINT CLOTHING APPERAL. If it isn't for self defense and as a last resort that you shouldnt have it.
I got an idea you can try for about 3 days and see how well it works. Walk up to any citizen on the street and say to them "Look, I got a gun...do you feel safer now?" If you dont get attacked they will at least run from you or call the cops. YOU are the only one that wants to know your packing a gun, no one else. Theres no good reason for you to display it. If I had to walk through a town of assholes like you wearing there gats exposed, I would feel uncomfortable nervous and ready to kill anyone...because theres only one reason I would show someone my gun.........IF I WAS GOING TO SHOOT THEM!!!!
I understand alot about both sides of the gun control issues, However I highly doubt I will ever understand some half-witted veiw like this.
I need to know if anyone here thinks this is a good idea. Dont worry i aint going to make fun of you...in writing, I may rant&rave to my friends about how slow you are, but not on the site.
Oh and another thing, if your going to follow this little movement the NRA has going, then do me a favor (and this is serious), stay out of grocery stores or pizza places like Chuck E Cheese or basically anywhere your going to see kids. Theres no reason to be showing off your piece to other peoples kids. You raise yours, I'll raise mine. If I get my kid coming up to me asking why your packin a .45 Chrome, at the park, were going to have some very harsh words out of earshot from the kids!!
So fellow gun owners, be responcible and be safe.
The Article I read:
http://www.gunslot.com/articles/open-carry-guns-our-childrens-risk
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22 Comments
sytasyn_syn
Seriously, if you got a comment...I aint going to be a dick. I promise ;)
silvergryfon
While I don't belong to the NRA, I do suscribe to most of the ideas. I personally believe that if everyone was to carry a sidearm, crime rates would decline and people would be a hell of a lot more polite simply because of the retribution that would be inflicted upon them. Not necessarily the code of the Old West, but just the idea alone would stop a lot of people from spewing mouth filth when it is directed to an armed citizen. OK, my 2 cents worth.
Anonymous
Well i really don't care if your a dick or not but you do have a point. I Honestly love to be carrying my glock 21 open but it would be better to be cocield in situations. NRA is run by people, People make mistakes and can and possibly will FUCk up in a situation.
S.E.A.L
if people carryed their guns openly then there would be a more random shootings, and crime, but thats only in my world.
sarge225
the average idiot is not capable of carrying a firearm openly. just remember, if you draw your weapon, plan on killing them. if you hesitate, it might be your funeral.
silvergryfon
I agree that the average person is not capable of carrying a gun. This society has done their best to project the image that guns are evil. They are just a tool. As with all tools, proper training is essential. You are correct in the assumption of never draw you gun unless you plan to shoot. Never draw your gun in anger. It will cost you dearly.
judgecolt
I agree with silvergryfon, A gun is just a tool and should only be carried by someone who has received proper training in the safe handling and use of it. The assumption of not drawing you gun unless you intend to use it I believe is corect. Make a mistake in the use of a firearm and you could end up in jail, Be carefull and be safe. Awarness and a small amount of paranoia is you best friend on today's streets.
Alec411
There is a movement in this country that goes something like this: Everyone should open carry. PERIOD In my opinion, this is the most inane concept on hand gun carrying. I'm gonna use OC for open carry, and CC for concealed carry. If you come to PHX and open carry, you will simply be the first one shot. "Blood in, Blood out"! You walk past OC and he just turns and shoots you. End of Story. I am in a 7/11 and I came in for one reason, I want the money, Need it bad! There s a guy at the counter with a gun hangin out; BANG he's dead!
CC, you are the only one that knows you are carring. You maintain the tactical edge of suprise!! Spent 30+ years CC, always kept the edge, always won!
AWM Retired Special Agent
silvergryfon
Alec411, You may have experience in concealed carry, but I disagree with your concept. Someone else in the 7-11 will shoot the dumbass first. Concealed carry has it's advantages, but if you project the image that you are unarmed, you will be the first shot.
sarge225
im not sure why you think the image of "unarmed" will make you the first one shot. i think the one with the open carry would be the first on shot...at least if i was robbing a 7-11 thats what i would do
silvergryfon
Take out the unknown factor, just in case you are carrying. Larger chance of survival. You also seem to have forgotten that there is a possibility of other armed people in the store who will take you out. So make your shots count.
jerisandesherlia
Concealment all the way if you start allowing people to just brandish weapons openly whats to keep the idiot owners from pointing them openly and at whim they should only be a last resort cause the law in effect now states basicly if you go waving your gun around for no reason you go to jail.
kiran8654
One of the major things wrong with the country, were the country is starting to resemble a democratic socialist country instead of the constitutional republic it is meant to be, is that there are people who are politically vetted that have more rights than the rest of us.
Police should have NO rights that every citizen doesn't have, it should be quite the opposite. They should have NO access to any equipment that the general public doesn't have access to. And only with a court order based on sworn testimony should they have access to information or be able to do stuff that the general public doesn't, or can't do.
The duties of the police officer are the same as the duties of all citizens. The only difference is that the police officer does them as his job.
I am not a big fan of carrying open. But for those that want to, that is their right.
sytasyn_syn
thats possibly the dumbest thing i have ever heard...shot your self...its your right
Nutty Basterd
I'm not sure about it all. Although there are some states which do allow open carry. I believe New Mexico is one but New Hampshire is for sure, just watch this video on youtube, it's amusing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FWXnK5UyRI
clintlebo
I don't know how relative this is to the topic Sytasyn started with his blog, but I agree with Kiran on some of his points. Badges do not inherently give status above proletariat. Officers of the law have two responsibilities: to serve and to protect. We as a society have conveniently forgotten those 2 fundamental purposes of the police. Officers of the law should actually be the most humble of people in the citizenry as they work for the good of the community and thus are responsible to every person in that community. I am going to quote Kiran: "Police should have NO rights that every citizen doesn't have, it should be quite the opposite. They should have NO access to any equipment that the general public doesn't have access to. And only with a court order based on sworn testimony should they have access to information or be able to do stuff that the general public doesn't, or can't do." That is absolutely correct.
For reference:
Amendment 4 - Search and Seizure. Ratified 12/15/1791.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Sytasyn does raise some safety issues as did some others in the response to his blog. Please remember while responding to Sytasyn, that this is his opinion. We are allowed freedom of speech in America. The internet has been a powerful tool to re-establish this right and counter the big companies that wish to curtail it. America would never be where it is in history with out this freedom. The Bill of Rights grants this freedom equally for everyone. We do not have censorship police or grammar thugs on a federal payroll. I am not so naive to believe there is no censorship, but from my experience, the internet has been the best case scenario for open forum.
For reference:
Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The Bill of Rights also has a "clause" in it that allows the citizens to own weapons. I believe part of this "clause" states that this freedom shall not be infringed. I read this as" You have the freedom to own weapons and this freedom will not be violated by the government.
For reference:
Amendment 2 - Right to Bear Arms. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Government is not referring to only the Federal branch. State, county, city, and other municipalities fall under government as well. We can read this and interpret that carrying a non concealed weapon falls under the freedom granted by the Bill of Rights. A concealed weapon falls under this freedom granted by the Bill of Rights.
Caveats:
There are many laws that pertain to the Bill of Rights in America. Some of these laws "supercede" the Bill of Rights for the safety of the public. Some quick examples: It is against the law to yell "fire" in a crowded place with the absence of a fire, it is illegal to make a threat on any Presidents life, and probable cause may lead to a legal search and seizure. That is the beauty of the Representative Republic and the United States Constitution. It is a living, changing document to support the will and action of the people.
So, it is of my opinion that I have no qualms about anyone within the law carrying their weapons where ever they want. I feel they are granted this freedom just the same as you and I are granted this forum.
By the way, if I was in that fictional 7-11, I would carry concealed; therefore, if the perpetrator did walk in and fire upon the citizen with an open carry weapon, that would give me the opportunity to draw my weapon and take down the perpetrator.
clint
samD
Very concise and to the point. I think it is every citizens "right" to carry open. By citizen I mean a non-felon or otherwise sane (relative term) legal citizen of the US, no gang bangers allowed if they are criminals. It may be a right but not necessarily the right thing to do for various reasons. Accidental discharge, scaring the shit out of liberals and having them wet their panties in public is a big problem.
We are able to do this here in Arizona, although I have never done it. I would if I thought it necessary and prudent for my safety. We can carry in our automobiles, but must tell a the LE if they stop us for a traffic violation or whatever. They have these great plastic covered magnets that attach under the dash that will hold any gun, for fast draw.
I personally stay out of 7-11 type convenience store to eliminate this source of danger in my life. Convenience stores is where most of these gang banger morons hang out. Out of harms way is a good policy.
sytasyn_syn
So I have to ask, You don't go into any convenience stores because there is a slight danger of someone robbing it? Do you also only do online banking? I don't see how the fact that there is a very slight chance the one place you stop into to grab a Slim Jim and a pack of smokes real quick might be robbed is a reason to live in fear. Thats the idea behind terrorism right? Make people afraid to do normal stuff? Isn't that why we carry guns, to protect ourselves and those around us from those who wish to do harm to the innocent? Or maybe some people carry weapons because there scared that every store they go into, someone will try to rob it. Which is fine however I don't get how carrying a gun wouldn't make you feel safe enough to go into the stores instead of living in fear. I mean...shit...Slush Puppy's are fucking gooood!
Now this is not an attack nor is it sarcastic, it is a serious question. Try to stay calm!!!
samD
I don't eat slim jims, I don't smoke and slurpies give me a headache. I also don't go into combat zones anymore either. I don't live in fear. I live a very happy productive life. I have been held up before when I owned a liguor store and a bar. I choose not to hang with low lifes who seem to hang out in these places. I on the other hand reduce my risk factor expotentially by steering clear of situations, this is called street smart. I grew up on the streets of Oakland, Ca. I worked in San Francisco and started one of the most succesful banks. I told my people just give them the money. I'll hunt 'em down and take care of them later. I had the best video and cameras in the nation. I ID'd 3 perps, hunted them down and got MY customers money back. You are a 23 year old who really knows nothing of life yet. You will learn. Don't patronize or talk down to me because you have not earned the right to. My respect goes to people who earn it. So far you are nothing but a brash loud mouth youth, with no understanding of humor. I asked you not to write to me aND I EXPECT YOU TO RESPECT MY WISHES. I never have backed down from anyone in my life. I have lived 64 years and been up against the meanest that society has. You are really no match for me, just a small
pimple on the ass. So stay away and don't bother me!
ssdd71
Some people will avoid any situation that they deem a risk to themselves. Be it from someone commiting a criminal act or risk being seen as foolish. It all depends on what seems to be important to them. Sometimes appearance is more important than reality to some people.
sytasyn_syn
See, simple answer, Thanks ssdd71
greasypaws
i dont even have my concarrypermit but when i go into my local beer store(quiky mart)all the employees know me and i have been asked by these fellow members of MY community to escort assholes out of the store(be they drunk or whatever)and i have never backed down!i man up to protect my community!when i deal with this situation i at the very least have a lead pipe in my back pocket and my sks in my car right by the front door.all i am saying is do what u have to to make your community a place u want to live!