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Currently, lawmakers in 12 states are considering legislation that would repeal their respective concealed carry issue requirements.

Should all 12 states proceed with eliminating CCW issue requirements, it would bring the total number of ‘Constitutional’ carry (also known as ‘unrestricted’ carry) states to 16, as Alaska, Arizona, Vermont and Wyoming already allow residents to carry without a permit.

According to the NRA-ILA, the 12 states reviewing unrestricted carry bills in current legislative sessions include: Colorado, Iowa, Georgia, Kentucky, Maine, New Hampshire, Ohio, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Carolina, South Dakota and Virginia.

Of those on the path to Constitutional carry, South Dakota is the closest to achieving that goal. Last week, lawmakers passed a bill that allows anyone who is 18 or older with a valid South Dakota driver’s license and a trouble-free history (no felony convictions, no ‘history of violence,’ no mental illness, etc.) to carry concealed.

What that means for South Dakotans is that they will bypass a layer of bureaucracy, including a fee, paperwork, and a background check. The bill now sits on the desk of Republican Gov. Daugaard awaiting his signature.

Mike Milstead, the sheriff of Minnehaha County, the South Dakota’s largest, told USA Today that his office processes about 2,000 permits a year, of which 30 to 40 are rejected because applicants have something in their backgrounds.

"The tough part will be on the small number of people that think they should have a permit that shouldn't," he said.

Where South Dakota is on the precipice of Constitutional carry, other states are not as far along in the legislative process or have stumbled along the way. New Hampshire’s bill has passed the state House but still has to be reviewed by the state Senate and, last month, a Colorado senate committee rejected a Constitutional carry bill on a 3-2 party-line vote, with Democrats voting against it.

Overall though, and not surprisingly, the NRA is pleased that more states are attempting to institute Constitutional carry.

Andrew Arulanandam, policy director for the National Rifle Association's Institute for Legislative Action, told USA Today, "Our viewpoint is, a good person will always be a good person," he said. "They don't need a license to be a good person."

Arulanandam also pointed out that those four states that have Constitutional carry have a low crime rate.

But Brian Malte, the director of state legislation for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, argued that repealing concealed carry issue requirements would permit people who have never even shot a firearm to carry one in public.

"They want a gun in every nook and cranny in society with no permission needed and no background check," Malte told USA Today, adding, "This is just a recipe for disaster."

What are your thoughts? Do you support Constitutional carry? Or do you think there should be concealed carry issue requirements in place (background check, training, etc.)?

2 years 6 weeks ago, 10:20 AM

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I fully and totally support constitutional carry, no hesitation at all on my part. As far as the communistic Brady Campaign goes, I have to say I thank God every day that Jim Brady didn't get messed up at the dentist, because everyone in the country would have rotten teeth thanks to Sarah Brady.

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I do live in Arizona and I was thinking about moving to Nevada. I am almost positive that I am going to stay in AZ...

2 years 6 weeks ago, 8:56 PM

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samD wrote:
I put this up on my Facebook page with credit to you.
I do live in Arizona and I was thinking about moving to Nevada. I am almost positive that I am going to stay in AZ...

Thanks! Good to know I'm going viral.

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Ok I guess many of you will disagree with me but I don't like the way it is now where anyone who is not a felon can own a handgun with no firearms training. It's like saying oh you got enough money to buy an airplane? OK sir here's the keys and good luck to you. I know that most if not all gunslot people have grown up around firearms and are responsible, but man there are some idiots in the general public. I think there should be a federal firearms license with at least the amount of training and range time as it takes to be an armed security guard ( 40 hrs when I was one in Virginia) and then have a license that allowed you to buy a gun without a backround check and to carry in all 50 states.Should cost less than a drivers license be valid at least 5 years and renewable online. I got to tell you that there where some security people, not armed guards, who I know had their CCW permits that scared the hell out of me with their poor judgement. At least two were fired on the site where I worked, All these accidental shootings you hear about. You can't have an accident if you don;t point a gun at someone, know to keep your finger off the trigger until your ready to shoot etc. basic stuff.

2 years 6 weeks ago, 8:49 PM

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my concerns over a license,especially a federal one to own a gun...remember the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

1 "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be INFRINGED".i think those words speak for themselves,but if not heres what websters says infringed means :
: to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another
: an encroachment or trespass on a right or privilege

2 "licensing" a constitutional RIGHT implies it is a privilege,and not a right at all and that is the first step down a path that will certainly end in them revoking/suspending such a license/priveledge.

3 the only people who will obey the law are NOT CRIMINALS!!!!! "in a land where guns are outlawed only outlaws have guns" comes to mind.yup,i just used a pro gun bumpersticker as an argument!lol.

4 how could you guarantee the testing administration would either make the test fair,or passable for a person who may or may not be able to say miss work to take a test to gain a license for a right our founders granted ALL of us,and may not be very popular with a persons particular employer?

i thing they have more than enough control over my life and "rights" already,and i will not willingly sign over any more to hypothetically make the uncertain world safer HYPOTHETICALY.cops military personal experienced hunters and shooters all have accidens with guns,we are human,and humans make mistakes,even licensed trained professionals,so i fail to see how we would be any better off.

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2 years 6 weeks ago, 9:01 PM

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my concerns over a license,especially a federal one to own a gun...remember the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

1 "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be INFRINGED".i think those words speak for themselves,but if not heres what websters says infringed means :
: to encroach upon in a way that violates law or the rights of another
: an encroachment or trespass on a right or privilege

2 "licensing" a constitutional RIGHT implies it is a privilege,and not a right at all and that is the first step down a path that will certainly end in them revoking/suspending such a license/priveledge.

3 the only people who will obey the law are NOT CRIMINALS!!!!! "in a land where guns are outlawed only outlaws have guns" comes to mind.yup,i just used a pro gun bumpersticker as an argument!lol.

4 how could you guarantee the testing administration would either make the test fair,or passable for a person who may or may not be able to say miss work to take a test to gain a license for a right our founders granted ALL of us,and may not be very popular with a persons particular employer?

i thing they have more than enough control over my life and "rights" already,and i will not willingly sign over any more to hypothetically make the uncertain world safer HYPOTHETICALY.cops military personal experienced hunters and shooters all have accidens with guns,we are human,and humans make mistakes,even licensed trained professionals,so i fail to see how we would be any better off.

But I have to agree with Jay on this one. As soon as this already overreaching government gets their foot further in the door they're only going to snatch away even more of our rights. And, as anyone know, once they take something away, they never give it back. This government has already grown to the point of redundancy, checks and balances are out of the question because there's no way to check it all, especially when they think the answer to controlling government is adding another layer of government. We really can not afford another federal permit, which will no doubt require an all new federal agency to monitor it, and probably another agency to monitor the monitors. Neither our freedom nor our budget can handle the burden of additional government interference.

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see the "TRAINED PROFESIONALS" making mistakes too.a major reason i don't believe in any more,and in fact believe we shouldn't have many of the restrictions we presently have.

What suprises me the most is how many people are laughing during these video's. The first one is unbelievable.
gun safety?

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2 years 6 weeks ago, 10:38 AM

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with "...no permission needed..."

"They want a gun in every nook and cranny in society with no permission needed and no background check," Malte told USA Today, adding, "This is just a recipe for disaster."

We need the "old" U.S.A. back.
Thanks for posting Sam!

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2 years 6 weeks ago, 10:39 AM

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formalized or certified training. Ex Military, LE, Front Sight at least 8 hrs of classroom on safety and at the range. IMHO

2 years 6 weeks ago, 10:54 AM

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two men I was in the Navy with shot themselves by accident. A DEA agent shot himself by accident in a classroom, an Arkansas State Police big wheel shot himself by accident. I'm starting to wonder if on-the-job firearms experience is a negative LOL !!!

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2 years 6 weeks ago, 10:47 AM

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"Constitutional carry and idiots with firearms".
I can understand people wanting restrictions on access to guns but I'm not ready to go backwards against the Constitution.
We are in a war of attrition, the left wingers are taking us down a piece at a time. Guns are a "Have To Win" battle.
Perhaps different terminology regarding fellow gun owners would work, ya think?

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I kinda of agree with on the training part just not the federal part. I say let the states run it like the dmv, and what I mean is do your training go to a dmv type place take your test. You then could eliminate the the background waiting period when you show your "Shooters License"

If you carry a gun, people call you paranoid. Nonsense! If you have a gun, what do you have to be paranoid about?
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the director of state legislation for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, argued that repealing concealed carry issue requirements would permit people who have never even shot a firearm to carry one in public..

Couple of you guys have also pointed out that there is "some" validity in this.. I'm not sure.. Think of everyone you first taught to shoot.. their fear of the gun made them safe, and a lot of times as Daisy pointed out, our complacency causes issues..

The ability to tap rack, or swipe off a speedloader during tactical reloads might be something that we do.. but is it necessary for the women who is in danger..(actually tap rack is with an auto..but) bottom line is this nation is not the same place it was in the fifties, and if someone is bright enough to empower themselves buying a gun, there going to get something thats simple, and something that makes since to them. I can't imagine any gun store not explaining how to use the weapon.. Every experience i've had with gun stores (even big box how have liability issues to deal with) is that they make an effort to find something that works in the buyers ability limits...My guess is what ever danger exists will be less than not having a gun to start with..

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planned or explained, Mamma was in a tizzy for her breakfast. That's done, the kitchen is clean and I'm free to try again :<))

The leftists, socialists, communists are fighting us with a unified front. You do not hear people on the left calling each other "idiots", it just don't work in their favor to do that. They are a coalition of many very diverse interests. It's confusing to me to see bad-ass macho teamsters hugging and kissing all over homos.

Mexicans are generally patriotic and supportive of the U.S. military, good folks, but when the left beats the racist drum the Mexicans will tongue kiss code pink, yuck!

You had to notice the "occupy movement" (brings to mind bowel movement) harbors venomous hatred for anyone who has money, like John Kerry, Nancy Pilosi, George Soros, Peter Lewis, Michael Moore and a whole shit-load of others.
Ooops, wrong rich people LOL

With our private organisations we can get safety training done, we don't need the govmnt getting involved. We should be careful what we do and say inside our family, that's all

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2 years 6 weeks ago, 1:27 PM

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The "idiot" word..

I see where your coming from Lou, but that being said i have no problem with what our bud from Roswell said.. He was pointing out a fact of life, that there ARE idiots with firearms, and he's right.. Get your point that we should have each others back.. but thats also a set up for supporting the unsupportable.. I didn't read in anyway that his comments were directed at us, cause duh..they weren't.. They were directed at Idiots with firearms..

As to his position, let me quote him

"I think there should be a federal firearms license with at least the amount of training and range time as it takes to be an armed security guard ( 40 hrs when I was one in Virginia) and then have a license that allowed you to buy a gun without a background check and to carry in all 50 states.Should cost less than a drivers license be valid at least 5 years and renewable online."..

Good and bad in this. Were abdicating some states rights to the feds in his position, and i don't see anyway that 40 hours is workable, as it's just to long. I think any one of us could train a neophyte to safely shoot, in less than 4 hours.. i'ts just not that complicated. 3 hours of the basic saftey rules is more than enough unless your dealing with an IQ like par golf, and maybe shouldn't have a piece to start with, and one hour on marksmanship basics.. The post goes between the slot is not all that hard to get..

We all know what the left & media will do with a "mental issue" CC post event.. A mental health revue process would stop that from happening.. The 50 state licence thing would be the only way i could see fed involvement, and unless we take the Senate thats not likely to happen.. This one is hard, but if it was done on a "shall issue" basis, and with a 4 hr basic training, AND if the end product would have a 50 state LIFE TIME license that allows instant FFL clearance, and only canceled in the case of domestic violence (standard nation wide LE standard) or mental health issues, i could support it..

We always need to have open debate here.. none us us should ever feel that were going to risk being "slammed" for a contrary opinion...Neat thing about our hangout, We set the rules.. I loved the debate that went on a couple weeks ago with Daisy, LLE, and Clint re education.. Same applies here.. I personally like AZ's everyone carries and FFL check with out CC license, but doesn't mean it can't be improved..

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out of sight just like the leftists do. They never hesitate to take OUR dirty laundry out in public when we hand it to them for "Show & Tell".

I think the leftist do a good job of confederating without apparent conflict. Our side needs to work on that.

We can background check, mandate training, label people as unfit, even commit mental incompetents who try to get guns but we don't have to tell the world that we are populated by idiots, criminals and extremists.
The left will do it for us but we should not give them OUR words that they can quote.
That's all.
The 50 states could reach agreements on training, background checks and periodic reviews w/o the feds getting into it, states already do the reciprocal agreements.

I think this was a non-issue from the gitgo, I'm finished trying to explain. Now back to reading my Bill O'Reilly book :<)

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To clarify my post

When I wrote federal I meant it only in the idea of including all the states. I agree that administrating the proposed license should be done by states as are drivers licenses. I in no way want to restrict anyones right to own a firearm, but just as with a drivers license you need to have some training and be able to pass a test, If this eliminates drug addicts, mentally challenged, etc. so be it. Also about Greg az;s comment you can train someone to handle a firearm safely in around 4 hours, yes thats true,but thats not enough time to teach self defense issues and legal issues if you pull a weapon. I could teach any one of you to fly a light aircraft in 4 hours but God help you if you incounter an emergency situation. That takes a bit more learning. And finally I think restrictions on So called assault weapons, hi cap magazines, and even full auto are BS the 2nd ammendment doesn,t say black powder, muzzle loading flintlocks only.

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ha ha.. got you guys.. Bad, i agree that it's pushing the limit, but im trying to factor in something that could be done in the real world, as opposed to just throwing them out there.. i really do like our present system here in AZ.. Just hoping that we don't wind up with some CC maniac that the liberal media can use as a poster boy, and i like your idea of Nation wide carry. ha ha.. like CA would in anyway buy into that. The thought actually tickles me.. They replaced the old "OC" rule (no bullets of course) with CA version of CC (cant carry).. they were all so scared of those walking around with unloaded guns.. Nuff to make you see your phyc/therop/aroma/sansw/rainbow something or other that you pay what most of you working folks make in a week to see for an hour.

Not sure which book of Bills it is, and to be honest haven't read any.. Like the boy but....

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enlightened as anyone, someone says, "...and even [restrictions on] full auto are BS the 2nd ammendment doesn,t say black powder, muzzle loading flintlocks only."

My mind goes rigid LOL !!
I'm getting better though. In my mind I know full auto is not really a big threat, any street gang member in L.A. can get them but they're not really popular with criminals for some reason. If they were the BATF would be running a "fast and furious" gun sales program in South Central Los Angeles. :<)

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No they wouldn't

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enlightened as anyone, someone says, "...and even [restrictions on] full auto are BS the 2nd ammendment doesn,t say black powder, muzzle loading flintlocks only."

My mind goes rigid LOL !!
I'm getting better though. In my mind I know full auto is not really a big threat, any street gang member in L.A. can get them but they're not really popular with criminals for some reason. If they were the BATF would be running a "fast and furious" gun sales program in South Central Los Angeles. :<)

Because that would be racist, lol.

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perplexing discussion. I keep feeling that there is a philosophical middle ground between the absolutely inviolable Second Amendment, and something else that lives within each of us, as living , breathing human beings who love our country and have great regard for our fellow citizenry. I think, without being too professorial, I have hit upon a nexus.
My Grandfather used to tell me that when I was up against a really difficult conundrum that seemed unsolvable, I had at least better be going back to " basics", and then go carefully forward from there.
So let me take you back to "basics" in this case: I give you the Preamble to our Constitution. The WORDS are profound.

"WE THE PEOPLE of the United States, in order to form a more perfect
union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the
common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the
blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and
establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

My friends, I ask you--What do these words promise in relation to how far we might go with respect to the unfettered bearing of arms. For example, what do "we the people" owe each other in relation to promoting the general welfare and insuring domestic tranquility? Without any big lecture, I submit to you that these words must be considered true wisdom for the problems being discussed here. We must use wisdom, intelligence and great judgement in concluding what must be done to provide for the common defense, yet promote the [continued] general welfare, so that the blessings of liberty are forever secured for ourselves and our posterity. I submit to you that such valid concerns cannot rationally exclude reasoned human intervention in the concealed/open carry process.

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who here feels he needs a training course on weapons handling/safety with a pass fail to get permission to gain their rights back?would a criminal do it?if they did and failed,would they abide by it?could it help reduce accidents?yes it could.would it help?i don't think it would,certainly not substantially,and i won't give up my rights or others rights to find out.the problem i have is we will never ever eliminate death or injury,and if a tiny reduction if any is all we can expect for forfeiture of our granted liberties,well then folks,i along with some of you will end up as criminals.what scares me here guys is what if (using myself as an example) someone is an insomniac,and that can be used to say I'm unsafe?what then about maybe a bipolar person?recent mothers often,OFTEN suffer post pardum depression.or maybe your a guy who tells your doctor sarcastically that the pain is so bad it wants to make you kill yourself?that is already going on,and i fear further restrictions,and diversions of rights (for the greater good of course)will only complicate and entangle us all in a net we can never escape once caught and will be so wide and deep all will all eventually become ensnared and found to be unfit.

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Franklin said

"Those who would give up freedom for safety deserve neither." I think Benjie nailed it.

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somebody else has already said it best...in this case it was Mr Franklin.

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Yup

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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Ben Franklin, so narrowly interpreted the words "insure domestic tranquility" and "promote the general welfare" that they really mean a codification for giving up freedom!!??

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LLE... Gentleman..

Liked the..."My Grandfather used to tell me that when I was up against a really difficult conundrum that seemed unsolvable, I had at least better be going back to " basics", and then go carefully forward from there.

Sorta like the Doc's Hippocratic oath of first do no harm..

know this much, im proud to spend time with a group of guys who can express and defend thoughts that others are oblivious to.. Fact is we all make the decision to spend life's precious moments here.. That to me is a lot of the reason why i enjoy our site.. That and picking fights with geezers like Daisy, and LLE.. (Dave your up late.. as am i, nite buddy).. and nite to all..

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that this is a special place because of our members. It is an honor to cross conceptual swords with patriots-----------that is what made the beginnings of our country so exceptional. I find that although I do not consider myself a particularly religious person, I do see the underpinnings of the judeo-christian tradition in the thinking of the founding fathers--at least as far as the way the brilliant Preamble was written. In effect, for me, the Preamble was written to point toward and then answer the Old Testament question, "Am I my brother's keeper?" The answer was embellished upon by the great men in the New Testament, and the resounding answer is,"Yes".

Carrying that concept into this set of argumentation, it is my opinion that the language of the Second Amendment regarding "shall not be infringed", may not, in and of itself infringe upon or invalidate any part of the rest of the Constitution. Therefore, the concepts established in the Preamble must at least be accorded countervailence to those of the Second Amendment. Ultimately, what that means to me is that the founders did NOT mean for the Second Amendment language to strike us deaf, dumb and bereft of common sense, when we are attempting to be true to insuring domestic tranquility and promoting the general welfare.

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al·leged (-ljd, -ljd)
adj.
Represented as existing or as being as described but not so proved; supposed.

Just curious...lol

2 years 6 weeks ago, 4:56 PM

LLE

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I have already gotten into trouble here with my scientific argument that there is no such thing as a mind (noun) [like there is for "brain, nervous system, kidney, stomach, etc"]. In science, a term like "mind", is called a hypothetical construct. Technically speaking, "soul" would be one, also. It is a made up construct which is used to "explain" certain behavior or events, BUT IT AIN"T REALLY PHYSICALLY THERE. Thus, something else is causing the behavior or events, and hypothetical constructs do not help to determine what is.

"Laugh so hard, that even 'Sorrow' smiles at you. Live life so well, that even 'Death' loves to see you alive". (author unknown) "....would someone please show this poor asshole the way out of town?"....Avram Belinsky, the "Frisco Kid".
2 years 6 weeks ago, 10:25 AM

bad landing47

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worried about more restrictions on firearm ownership= we have enough already. But I believe if every gun owner had proper training gun "accidents" could be reduced. By the way accidents is the wrong word it's usually a lapse in following safety rules. What i would like is some kind of uniform law that allowed you to transport your weapons from state to state without worry. I take my guns to Houston from time to time to go shooting with my son and grandson. I have friends in Oregon that I used to huint with, but have to travel through Cali. to get there. Many of my guns are illegal in Cali. What about municipalities that totally ban firearms? I read on Guns and Patriots web site that New York City was arresting people at the airport for having firearms in their checked baggage. Apparentely Mayor Bloomberg is on another crusade. My other issue is if you pass a backround check you should be able to get some kind of ID so you don't have to do the backround check every purchase, and be able to buy a weapon in whatever state your in. I made a big mistake when I moved to New Mexico. We bought a house for our retirement but I still was working in Virginia. Anyhow, the wife stayed in NM got all the utilities etc. in her name. Can;t buy a gun in NM without proof of residency. My name is only on the mortgage. Apparently not good enough to buy a gun or get a NM drivers license. Had a real fun time getting that squared away. It's a lot easier to do both if you sneak across the border and no habla ingles. The libs in Santa Fe say it's for our own protection and most illegals buy auto insurance. Sure they do. And how come I can be trusted to carry full auto and grenade launcher in Nam and be trusted not to kill friendlys, but not here? Also I understand your comments about not getting the feds involved in licensing. You are absolutely right that you can't turn back thr\e clock once they pass a new law or a tax. Years ago a congressman submitted a bill that congress would have to repeal 3 bills for every new one it passed, guess you know how far they got with that.

2 years 6 weeks ago, 10:53 AM

samD

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bad landing 47

Per gun laws, as long as you are an interstate hiway you are permitted to transport your firearms. Where you get in trouble is pulling off say to get something to eat and get on a state or muni roadway.

2 years 6 weeks ago, 12:29 PM

MattyTheJet

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Instead of speed traps

samD wrote:
Per gun laws, as long as you are an interstate hiway you are permitted to transport your firearms. Where you get in trouble is pulling off say to get something to eat and get on a state or muni roadway.

You get guntraps like this in some of your far left states. And it's made worse by the fact that there are sections of interstate that feed into state or municipal roads with little or no warning. Then all of a sudden you've got some lawyer trying to turn you into a felon.

2 years 6 weeks ago, 1:56 PM

HampsterW

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Sam's correct

If you are on the interstate, the sky is the limit, you can have a 'shit ton' of guns, you take exit 62 for a burger, that's when you are asking for trouble, you are now in the state locality, not under Federal Reg's......

Change you can truly believe in comes from the barrel of a gun---------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ron Paul 2012----Vote the bastards out!---------------------------------
2 years 6 weeks ago, 1:41 PM

HampsterW

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you didn't refer to me as a 'gentleman', far from it....LOL! How are we doing this evening?

Change you can truly believe in comes from the barrel of a gun---------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ron Paul 2012----Vote the bastards out!---------------------------------

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