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4 years 17 weeks ago, 8:53 PM

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.38 VS. 9mm

I'm looking into a new 1911 to use for competition. I was looking at either a single stack 9mm or a .38 super. Right now I'm leaning towards the 9mm due to ammo price and avalibility. Any feed-back on this?

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4 years 17 weeks ago, 11:10 PM

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yep sure do ronin..

had a light weight Colt Cdr, then modified a 686 for early PPC, and bowling pins.. the 686 could go either major or minor depending on using 38's or 357 rounds.. will skip past how i did..lol.. the rulles then were pretty simple either major (357/45/38super) or minor (38spl/9MM) todays IPSC rules are a lot complex.. race guns, mag limits, etc. but all things being equal.. those two rounds sure arent.. the 38 super shoots what was called "major".. and the 9 "minor"..

again not sure if thats still in effect or not.. but just saying you have more reason to go with the 9 than just price.. the recoil diffrence between those two rounds makes the 9 a clear winner if you can shoot it in the same catagory.. After i retired i tried my hand again at a local club out of Prescott.. Back issues have stoped any form of structued practicle shooting.. the events that i attended were pretty relaxed afairs.. plate shooting for time.. in my experiance this has turned out to be the most common form of (non IPSC) practical handgun shooting. 5 round plates set at diffrent distances, and the shooter from whats called the surrender position..

I would go with the 9MM.. for what it's worth (think you know this) the change out on the 1911 is a quick one..bbl's both .355.. diffrent mags, and extractors.. but at the most i think you only have to change like three parts to go from 9 to 38 super on the 1911..

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4 years 17 weeks ago, 12:45 AM

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.38 Super is really the only way to go for competition shooting, You'll just have to learn to handload to keep your costs down.

4 years 17 weeks ago, 8:07 AM

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MattyTheJet wrote:
.38 Super is really the only way to go for competition shooting, You'll just have to learn to handload to keep your costs down.

WHY??? I already reload, but still have to get the initial components. But why is the 38super the only way to go? 9mm rounds are cheaper (and in a pinch, can always pick a box up at wal-mart), felt recoil is low aiding in speed on follow up shots, and I already have a few 9mm so it's one less ammo type to keep on hand. What is the advantage of the 38 super?

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4 years 17 weeks ago, 3:29 PM

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ronin1604 wrote:
MattyTheJet wrote:
.38 Super is really the only way to go for competition shooting, You'll just have to learn to handload to keep your costs down.

WHY??? I already reload, but still have to get the initial components. But why is the 38super the only way to go? 9mm rounds are cheaper (and in a pinch, can always pick a box up at wal-mart), felt recoil is low aiding in speed on follow up shots, and I already have a few 9mm so it's one less ammo type to keep on hand. What is the advantage of the 38 super?

Basically, and this is going to sound a little stupid, but hear me out, since everyone else for the most part is using the .38 Super in competition you need to at least try to be on even footing and the .38 Super hits a little harder than the 9mm. Me, I want an advantage, but if I can't find an advantage I at least don't want to be at a disadvantage. So really it's just a matter of staying ahead of the curve, in my opinion. Everyone is different though.

4 years 17 weeks ago, 6:46 AM

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9 mm is the most common shot cartridge in the Minor Factor bracket of Competition Shooting for Semi-Auto's.

.38 Super has been a very wide spread as a Minor Factor Cartridge in the past but that was a while back. It still holds some popularity but is over shadowed by the ease of finding and initial cost of 9mm, the much lower cost to shooting 9mm and because of the amount of brass out there, the cost of reloading 9 mm is also mostly considered less than the .38 super.

Magazines for your pistols will cost less on average also. Parts for your firearm will cost less in most instances too.

The 9 mm can be loaded up to comparative Power and Speed of the .38 Super. So there really isn't anything to actually draw a person to the .38 Super other than a personal Preference to the cartridge.

.38 is the Minor Factor Cartridge in Revolver Class for Competitive Shooting.

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All that said, I shoot 9mm loaded up to and hotter than NATO SPEC .124 grain 9mm, moving at +P+, in competitions. I like a pistol to react faster, though I do tend to snap slide stops once or twice a year.

:edited:double check disclaimer: IDPA Minor Cartridges, .38 Spl, .38 Super and 9 mm

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4 years 17 weeks ago, 11:28 AM

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What kind of competition? Mostly, I'd have to lean to 9mm if you HAVE to abandon the good ol' .45. :)

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4 years 17 weeks ago, 11:44 AM

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I'm looking at starting with a local gun club that does IDPA shoots (ESP or SSP)... I understand that .45 is a viable option, but 9mm is cheaper, can still use a 1911 frame that I love, and the reduced recoil of the 9mm will allow faster target aquisition after firing.

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4 years 17 weeks ago, 12:12 PM

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Yeah, 9mm

That ought to do you fine. Let us know how you do.

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