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4 states, among last holdouts, eye open-carry gun laws

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Four Southern states — Texas, South Carolina, Oklahoma and Arkansas — are considering legislation that would allow people to carry handguns openly in a holster.
These generally Second Amendment-friendly states are among the last six holdouts against open carrying of guns. Openly carrying handguns is legal in most states, even those that ban concealed firearms. New York and Florida also bar openly carrying handguns.

The four other states that ban so-called open carry "are extremely gun-friendly. They understand the individual-rights aspect. Yet for whatever reason, the carry laws in these states are restrictive," says John Pierce, a co-founder of OpenCarry.org, which promotes gun rights.

Most states have strict laws governing concealed weapons. Illinois and Wisconsin ban carrying them entirely, according to the National Rifle Association. Concealing a weapon "was seen in the early days of our nation as something of an unwholesome act. People would bear arms openly," Pierce says.

Says Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, which opposes open-carry laws: "We don't want more people carrying guns either openly or concealed because the more guns you have in a situation, the more likely you are to get gun violence."

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Grass-roots movements supporting open carry have emerged via Internet and e-mail campaigns, Pierce says. The online Texas petition now has more than 55,000 signatures. OpenCarry.org raised $25,000 through online donations to pay for advertising in Texas, says OpenCarry.org co-founder Mike Stollenwerk.

Legislation is getting varying degrees of traction:

• In South Carolina, Republican Rep. Dan Cooper sponsored a bill endorsed by 36 other legislators to allow anyone who legally owns a handgun to carry it openly.

• In Oklahoma, Republican Rep. Mike Ritze is the sole sponsor of a bill filed Feb. 2 that would allow open carry.

• In Arkansas, a legislator is moving forward with a similar bill, Stollenwerk says.

• In Texas, Ian McCarthy, a student who chairs the Texas Open Carry Work Group, started the online petition in late 2007. He says a concealed gun is uncomfortable during hot Texas summers, takes longer to draw in self-defense and won't deter a criminal.

"If a criminal sees you're armed, he's not going to mess with you," McCarthy says.

Texas Republican Rep. Debbie Riddle has asked the state's legislative council to draft an open-carry bill. She wants to see how other gun-rights bills fare, particularly one to allow concealed weapons on college campuses."

Republican state Sen. Jeff Wentworth, who sponsored the college campus bill, opposes open carry. "I think that's harkening too far back to the Wild West," he says.

5 years 10 weeks ago, 6:17 PM

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Texas open carry

Being from Texas, I'am not sure about an open carry law. I am interested to know how they work in other states. I am a CHL, so i've beeen though class and background checks. I have also took some clearing and carry training..... Just wonder what exactly you have to know to open carry? Any victory for the 2nd is great, I just would like a little more info on the subject!

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5 years 10 weeks ago, 9:40 PM

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Anyone may open carry, no license or permit needed. Remember we are part of the old west. Gunfight at the OK Corral. Open carry in AZ can be in the glovebox or console of your car or truck. I have my CCW and carry open & concealed about 50% each. It works here, OK.

5 years 9 weeks ago, 4:55 AM

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Bob Bose Bell, eminent western history author, says that the gunfight at the OK Corral was done with the Earps having their handguns concealed. Also Bell says in the good old days, unless you were on a cattle drive, when you were out on the town you carried concealed. Ain't that a kick in the head!?

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5 years 10 weeks ago, 9:58 PM

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Can you imagine the scumbags in NY carrying openly. Upstate could do it, but since our laws are made by NY city, a city of sheep who want government control of everything, it will never happen. Hell, they do not want cigarettes or pop to be legal, can you imagine legalizing open carry?
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5 years 10 weeks ago, 12:10 AM

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Open carry isn't great

It's good to have open carry to prevent you from being charged with brandishment in case you accidently reveal your concealed weapon, but unless you are in a group of pistol-packers, open carry invites violent attack. Now, if your state doesn't allow concealed carry or you haven't yet had the opportunity to get your license, and you are unwilling to break the law, then I guess it's okay.

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