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4 years 15 weeks ago, 3:11 PM

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7-11 robery

A 7-11 not too far from my house was robbed this morning, the crook used a rock to intimidate the clerk into telling him how to open the till. This makes me feel very unsafe I am calling for a ban on rocks, I will not rest until the legislature puts laws into effect making the ownership of rocks illegal and getting the police to get all the rocks off our streets. We will start by requiring anyone who wants to carry a rock in their pocket to get a special permit. Next we will require anyone who owns a rock to register it with the government. After that it's a simple task of going down the list of registered rock owners and sending the police to their houses to confiscate their rocks. I will soon be organizing an anti-rock ralley outside the Utah capitol building everyone please come, we will also be handing around an anti-rock petition to be signed. I appreciate all your support in this matter,
Thank you.

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 3:14 PM

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LOL.
I hope the clerk had a bigger rock...

4 years 15 weeks ago, 3:16 PM

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now why does a rock ban sound silly to most people and a gun ban sound so reasonable?

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 3:38 PM

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seriously rocks kill people and no one will be safe until we get the rocks off our streets and out of our homes.

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 4:10 PM

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can I bring my gun to the rock rally?????
don't be silly, rocks don't kill people, people do.

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 7:29 AM

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HampsterW wrote:
can I bring my gun to the rock rally?????
don't be silly, rocks don't kill people, people do.

If you set a gun down and never touch it it can never hurt anyone. But I have seen rocks jump down off of hills and cliffs and attack people and vehicles so rocks must be evil all on there own.

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 7:59 AM

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Sir, I stand corrected...LOL

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4 years 14 weeks ago, 8:32 PM

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Thats it then we must declare war on the rocks before any more of these attaks happen.

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4 years 12 weeks ago, 1:54 PM

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Guns don't wait for you to fall asleep and break in,rob you or steal your car.
STUPID PEOPLE SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO REGISTER THEMSELVES!!!

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 4:17 PM

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yes please bring your new walther i wanna see it.

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 4:22 PM

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It is a nice

piece. See it hell, it needs to be shot, I have plenty of practice ammo.

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 4:29 PM

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ok so the anti rock rally is put on hold, we're going shooting.

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 4:41 PM

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we should go sometime, I can bring the arsenal. AK47, AR15 both of my 9mm pistols. I understand that your Bro-in-law has some nice hardware, is he into rifles as well?

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 4:47 PM

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he's mostly just into havin a good time, i think shotguns are his fav. but he does have a nice high point 9mm and access to other guns including a .357 mag which in my new fav gun at the moment.

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 10:13 PM

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with my 357. I like punching big holes
in doors etc

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 4:54 PM

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so I hear

I have a decent shottie, but it tends to kick my ass (read sore shoulder, black and blue sore), so I religate it to home defence duty (it is loaded and at hand as my other weapons are not), kid's and all.

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 5:02 PM

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shotties always kill my shoulder too but it's fun puttin big holes in things.

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 5:03 PM

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in a gun magazine that compared a 9mm and 45 to a small rock thrown real fast and a cinder blog you lob.

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 6:04 PM

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What were their results?

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 6:31 PM

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Personally, I'd rather not get hit by any of the above.

4 years 15 weeks ago, 6:35 PM

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VAJAYJAY PICS? LOL

4 years 15 weeks ago, 10:03 PM

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Bird shot is just that, for birds!
I am after bigger game!

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 2:50 PM

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I think the bird shot would still be pretty lethal comming out of a fully choked shotgun, we were essentially putting 1 big hole in our targets shooting #9 shot at roughly 10 yards.

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 3:31 PM

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# 9 shoot reminds me..

sheesh you know your into geezer hood when you do the "that reminds me" thing.. Wasting time to see if you guys come up with a target for me before i go..

Shotguns were a staple in the prison system when i started, matter of fact we had more range time with shotguns and rifles (mini-14) than pistol till we transitioned to Glocks and did the whole LE certification thing.. If the use of force continuem had to go past oc then we'd put the shotguns on the yard loaded with #9 bird shot, and the policy was "skip shooting".. yep.. you shot about 4 to 6 ft in front of the Inmate and it worked pretty well.. the shot slowing down guaranteed less than lethal force, and it also had the advantage of the inmate seeing the shoot going off, and it only took about one or two rounds to get control of the sittuation again..

SO of course the lawyers (hate that word) got involved and we had law suits because some inmate had a scar on his face..(fact).. At that point the policy was changed to shoot at the ankles.. Which is sorta funny when you think about it as it guaranteed more Inmate injuries..

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 3:49 PM

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As per the FBI

if it doesn't penetrate 12" of ballistic gelatin, it ain't leathal, something to consider when choosing between buck and bird.

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 4:10 PM

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but someone posted a video or a link that showed the differences in various shot types and it showed very well that birdshot is not a good load, even at close range, for reliable incapacitation. Stick with buckshot or slugs, although #4 turkey loads would be pretty good at close range too.

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 4:52 AM

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If #9 shot isnt that bad then I'll take some volunteers to help me test it on them.

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 8:33 AM

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But do you really think it has a reliable abillity to incapacitate someone physically? There is a difference between pain compliance and incapacitation. Blasting someone with a load of #9 shot is not much different than hitting them with rock salt. You are using pain to get them to stop. In most cases, a burglar, robber, mugger, whatever, will not be dedicated enough to stay there if you pepper their hide. But do you really want to take that chance in order to save on a little bit of shove against the shoulder?

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 8:43 AM

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I can handle my Mossy 500 in 20ga
I keep it loaded with #3 Buck
It likes that load, I get a good pattern
with Improved Cylinder.
I know it would take one super tough
SOB to take more than one #3 Buck

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 8:49 AM

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they have a huge variety of different loads available. There are reduced recoil buckshot and slug loads that don't push much more than field loads in my Mossberg 590, yet have much better terminal ballistics than field loads.

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4 years 15 weeks ago, 9:03 AM

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and shoot one handed. I figure I'll probably
have a light in the other hand so I want
something that isn't going to rip my arm off
but do some damage

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4 years 14 weeks ago, 8:39 PM

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Look man, at

3:00 AM I can handle all of the kick of a Clydesdale, when shit matters. On Sunday at the range, after 150 rds, not so much...LOL

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4 years 14 weeks ago, 8:36 PM

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why nit just duct tape a flashlight under your barel? I've seen pics posted on this sight like that I believe they call it red neck tactical.

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4 years 14 weeks ago, 7:50 PM

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When on a man hunt hunting 3 guys excaped from lima ohio and they had killed 3 people We all where told to bring our 12 g shotguns. They handed out double 0 buck we where told the shotgun being raked ,has a very disstinctive sound with makes most people freeze ,and the 00 buck has 9 to 11 shot in them. And each come out with about the same power as a 38 out to about 60 yards if i remember right . And thats why they used that round

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