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2 years 50 weeks ago, 6:23 AM

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Over his textbook liberal agenda. I am so sick of him posting all his Obama crap on my facebook timeline, which I never say anything about, choosing only to delete the grafitti, that I'm ready to scream. I post something on my own wall about Ron Paul, who I support for President because I believe him to be the man who can save my country, and he goes into this line of crap about how all Republicans are "wingnuts." I used to follow that train of thought, too, a few years in the real world changed me. Wish he could get a real world education and maybe then he'd see where Obozo is leading us.

2 years 50 weeks ago, 12:07 PM

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next time you see him

you have my permission to scratch his eyes out...meee..yowww.

i tried being reasonable,i didn't like it, NRA LIFE MEMBER,USMC VETERAN
2 years 50 weeks ago, 2:08 PM

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acquaintances but they are our enemies. They intend to take everything, our money, liberty, children, our basic rights. I won't allow them to even think I will try to get along with them.
I got into a 2nd Amendment debate with one who said I scared him because I kept calm and hammered at the basics without cussing or yelling.
Keep them scared.

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2 years 49 weeks ago, 4:42 AM

MattyTheJet

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Well

Fortunately this one isn't one of the anti-gun morons anymore. I fixed that long ago when he had some seriously shady roommates and I introduced him to our friend, the firearm.

2 years 41 weeks ago, 7:02 PM

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I believe we all know at least one of these people they know whats best because they tell you so and we all have a right to an opinion until yours differs from theirs. Thankfully this way of thinking is like a good night of drinking, feels good and feels right until you overdose and run into a wall at 70mph and wake up saying "I was so blind I couldn't think straight" the problem is when they turn to those of us who were responsible to fix the problems they have created and expect not to be punished for their behavior. A good family and being responsible for your mistakes goes a long way to avoiding the life altering condition known only to the worlds finest thinkers as Liberalism.

Best not to argue directly with this person as that is what they expect and will immediately revert to shutting down and repeating talking points subconsciously placed in their minds, but to instead slowly introduce them to solid facts and point out things when you can so they can make their own choice to open their mind.

2 years 41 weeks ago, 7:08 AM

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Liberals

All they really need is an introduction to the harsh realities of the real world, I know, I'm a cured liberal. It took me about a month working in the system to lose all my liberal ideals and I've happily gone on without looking back.

2 years 41 weeks ago, 10:27 AM

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curing liberalism

wish there was a pill for that.

2 years 41 weeks ago, 10:51 AM

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Funny word, Liberalism

It used to mean something good. I've got into arguments about this before. Where plain decent folk would get red for me even construing that "liberal" could be conveyed as good. The problem is marketing.

Yes, liberal used to be a good thing. It actually had it's origination in the age of enlightenment when early thinkers rejected ideas that dominated the current concept of government, such as nobility, established religion, absolute monarchy, and the divine right of kings¹. This classic liberalism is where our founding fathers developed the concept of our republic. These early liberals (our founders) believed that government is necessary to protect individuals from being harmed by others; but they also recognize that government itself can pose a threat to liberty².

Classic liberalism is a political ideology founded on ideas of liberty and equality. Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally liberals support ideas such as constitutionalism, liberal democracy, free and fair elections, human rights, capitalism, and the free exercise of religion.

That doesn't sound at all like our current liberals, does it? That's because they are not. As they have done before and will again, these are socialists and communists that adopted a label that was more palpable to Americans. Until the word itself, as now, has a negative connotation. Then they will re-brand themselves again with another good word and make a negative out of it.

John Wayne even said once, "I used to consider myself a liberal" I paraphrase this part, until he realized all the commies in Hollywood were calling themselves that and basically made him out to be a fascist.

¹ Referenced Wikipedia
² Encyclopedia Britannica

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2 years 41 weeks ago, 12:16 PM

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Definition of LIBERAL

1
a : of, relating to, or based on the liberal arts
b archaic : of or befitting a man of free birth
2
a : marked by generosity : openhanded
b : given or provided in a generous and openhanded way

c : ample, full
3
obsolete : lacking moral restraint : licentious
4
: not literal or strict : loose

5
: broad-minded; especially : not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or traditional forms
6
a : of, favoring, or based upon the principles of liberalism
b capitalized : of or constituting a political party advocating or associated with the principles of political liberalism; especially : of or constituting a political party in the United Kingdom associated with ideals of individual especially economic freedom, greater individual participation in government, and constitutional, political, and administrative reforms designed to secure these objectives
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— lib·er·al·ness noun
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Many fishermen keep their holes from freezing over with liberal injections of antifreeze. —Time, 28 Feb. 1974
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Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin liberalis suitable for a freeman, generous, from liber free; perhaps akin to Old English lēodan to grow, Greek eleutheros free
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Synonyms: broad-minded, nonconventional, nonorthodox, nontraditional, open-minded, progressive, radical, unconventional, unorthodox
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its funny i just had a long talk with my mom about this a few nites ago.she thinks liberal means freely or that a liberal would be someone trying to free you of something or make you more free in some way.shes a democrat that voted obama.......go figure

when i think liberal (a person) i think of definitions 2b,2c,5
liberal (open or generous) use of constraining laws,gun laws seat belts helmets,restrictions on spanking your kid, freely forcing socialized healthcare.........

CRY HAVOC and let slip the dogs of war!
2 years 41 weeks ago, 2:56 PM

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Liberal

2b and 2c are the way most people interpret it these days. 5 is closer to its original meaning. I always like saying that the only thing socialists are liberal with is other people's money and their interpretation of the constitution.

But in the sense of the political ideal, the 17th through 19th century enlightened ones who defined this derived it from from the latin liberalis meaning "noble, gracious, munificent, generous," but literally "of freedom, pertaining to or befitting a free man," from the root liber "free, unrestricted, unimpeded; unbridled, unchecked, licentious,"

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