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2 years 40 weeks ago, 9:57 PM

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Hello again, all. Haven't been on the forums in a few months and I am coming back with a question for all of the gunsmiths, dealers, and gun shop owners out there.

My life goal is to own a Firearms shop which does custom work. I have wanted this since before it became a 'fad' thanks to tv shows like Sons of Guns and the new one, American Guns (Which are really good shows).

My question is quite simple. Where do I begin? I am looking for any and all advice on the subject. I am 21 and am currently in college for Nuclear Engineering Technology. I joined the Marine Corps out of high school and was medically discharged for a lung condition, so unfortunately that particular doorway is now shut to me.

Thanks in advance for any advice you can spare.

2 years 40 weeks ago, 9:59 PM

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Also, advice isn't limited to the people mentioned above. Any advice is welcome.

2 years 40 weeks ago, 3:00 AM

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THANK YOU FOR SERVING lot of reading and hands on.Is there a gun shop by you that might hire you or let you hang out? plus always ask here their are a great with answers.With what your doing in college can you start coming up with the real ray guns for us? PLEASE....ty

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2 years 40 weeks ago, 8:13 AM

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tallguy,

There are a few shops around here that may hire me. I use one of them frequently for their indoor range.

But as to the ray gun... I'm working on it :P.

2 years 40 weeks ago, 10:28 AM

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soullesss

There is a lot of info online on how to obtain a FFL. I would start there. It will help to have a physical business address to use on your FFL application (I remember they were cracking down on people operating FFL based businesses out of their homes). You'll also need a business license. I would suggest doing a lot of research before applying for anything. Once you get approved, you'll have the headache of securing a loan or financing for inventory and equipment. Good luck.

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2 years 40 weeks ago, 1:11 PM

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Thanks for the advice. I've already printed off the FFL applications but am still a little fuzzy on which type I need to apply for.

2 years 39 weeks ago, 2:30 AM

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Soulless ask you gun shop.as I remember when I had one sooo looong ago class 3 is full auto I had the reg did it out of home but sold at gun shows.The gun shops by you might help you out as they can sell off their slow moving items a ta great price to you but check all the laws to see if it is worth doing the paper work.............................TY

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2 years 39 weeks ago, 5:13 PM

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My gun shop idea

I also plan to open a gun shop here in rural Missouri, unless I can move back to Arizona, then I'll open it there. Either way, the central idea behind my gun shop is to have a place where newbies, and old shooters alike can come and have fun. Because I'm going to start mine after I retire, my prices will be just enough to keep the shop going with maybe a bit extra to pay for competition entry fees. That means I'll have the lowest prices around. For active or retired military, law enforcement, firefighters, and ems personnel, I'll provide a discount and probably end up taking a loss for those sales. In my shop will be a big coffee table surrounded by chairs and couches, a couple vending machines, and a coffee maker or two. I'll have plenty of gun mags laying around and it'll be a place for people to come, hang out, and talk guns, girls, politics, whatever.

One of the most important points of my store is service to people whether they're customers or not. I went to various pawn shops and gun stores as a kid and because I obviously wasn't old enough to buy a gun, they didn't bother dealing with me. This was stupid, as kids grow up, and kids tell mom and dad what they want for Christmas and birthdays. Anyone working in my shop will be expected to treat everyone at the counter as if they're customer number one.

Another thing about my store is that it is going to be a gun store. Not a sporting goods store, not a hunting store, not a tactical apparel store, and not a pawn shop. Guns, ammo, gun accessories, reloading equipment and components, gun literature, and gun media. That's it. I may offer gunsmithing services, depending on whether or not the Sonoran Desert Institute's gunsmith and Firearms Technology courses are actually covered by army tuition assistance.

I know my reply isn't much of a technical answer, but others can help you with the ridiculous forms and questions in the FFL packet, like how you plan to dispose of your solid waste generated by your business.

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2 years 39 weeks ago, 11:00 PM

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RUNS!!

Good to see ya still kicking!

That sounds like out range. $12.00 to shoot all day long, even if you leave for hours you can still come back and shoot until close.

Two long tables with 26 chairs around then, coffee, candy, snacks, soda and water cooler. Bunch of retired LEO, Military, EMS and Vet's.

You will love it for sure when you do it, without a doubt.

again, good to see you here and hope you've gotten some trigger time in and home time too..

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
2 years 39 weeks ago, 6:04 AM

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comfortable BS area to,nothing better than to sit around and listen to stories from retired/active FBI,cops,miltary,shooters.

Gander Mountain just opened a gun range in their store complete with a 180/360 shoot/don/t shoot simulater range.They run POV and have laser pistols.I have not done it yet but soon i will.Last time i was there 4 women were at the counter getting their CC rigs.Don't forget about the women at your gun shop.Topless shoot for free.

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2 years 39 weeks ago, 11:52 AM

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Sounds great. If you ever need a partner, let me know. I am about sick of the rat race and ready to do something I love.

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2 years 39 weeks ago, 6:02 PM

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Sweeeeeeet

Sign me up sounds good I got a sis in stover...................TY

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2 years 39 weeks ago, 7:23 PM

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runaway,

May not have been exactly to topic but it was still a great read. I'd love to visit that shop. You also covered one of my biggest issues with gun shops these days. Before I turned twenty one, I would go into gun shops to look at pistols. I was scouting so I could see what the prices, service and inventory that was available for when I did turn twenty one and was capable of making my first pistol purchase. Only problem I ran into was that the people behind the counter (And once it was a kid younger than myself) wouldn't let me handle the pistols and would ignore me since I wasn't twenty one yet.

2 years 39 weeks ago, 5:48 AM

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Hey Soullesss

Might be law? Have to ask,if it's a family buss the the younger one can handle it ( I think).
REMEMBER there are a lot of haters out there for what we love and do,plus wait till they go after BASEBALL bats and say they should be paper.KEEP on track your doing great :>) .............TY

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2 years 39 weeks ago, 1:01 PM

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Hi Soullesss

First off you can run a FFL in your house I tried to start up a custom order for the guys I work with offshore because of the waiting periods for handguns. But to hold a license I would have to sell so many guns to keep it current and I could not be my own customer. When you get your FFL you have to keep lots of log books and paperwork out the ass. Thier is a site online www.ffl123.com I think they have an ad on here sometimes. Oh and if you rent you gotta have the landlords permission that was the other reason why I couldn't get an FFL. Thanks for your service and hopes this works out I agree with the gun bunny route and learn all you can and feel free to ask these guys for they got there shit together

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2 years 37 weeks ago, 10:55 PM

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one bit of info for ya.
If you plan on becoming a millionaire in the firearm business you had better start off with 2 million.

I would recommend against the home based license. I have seen alot of FFL holders not able to renew the license due to local and state requirements, everything from Zoning requirements, inadequate handicap parking/ access, traffic issues, lighting, parking, neighbors, schools ect.
consider that they issue you a FFL based out of your home, great. You are now in business, doing good making a few bucks and then three years later its time to renew your FFL and all of the sudden for some reason they (either local or state) issues a new requirement that you did not know about and now you will be required to meet prior to the Feds issuing a renew FFL.
Also another thing to consider with a home based FFL is that you now will have strangers knowning where you live. Hours of operations become an issue as some people will just stop by just because they were in the area even though it may 9pm in the evening.

best of luck to ya, I am begining to think I had more fun before I turned my hobby into a business. I know I had alot more free time before I started my business.

best of luck to ya

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