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9 years 6 weeks ago, 9:35 PM


Dr.angusmd21's picture

Major General
Join Date:
Nov 2008

When Sheriff Michael Carona was accused of among other things selling permits to carry guns, he resigned and was replaced by a political appointee, Sandra Hutchens. Hutchens apparently has a strong distaste for the Second Amendment and anyone who supports gun rights.

Hutchens wasted no time pandering to her own gun rights hatred and began revoking existing permits and rejecting new applications. This is a sensitive issue in Orange County and a November 2008 hearing was held to study the permit policy of Sheriff Hutchens.

When the matter of concealed weapon permits and issuance policies came up before the Orange County Board, sheriff’s officials acting under Hutchens brought a gauntlet of intimidating cops to provide extra security at the meeting.

This sent an ugly message that Sheriff Hutchens feels the citizens coming to participate in their own government’s business are somehow dangerous.

Hutchens hand-picked political hacks like Assistant Sheriff Mike Hillmann, sheriff's spokesman Damon Micalizzi and Undersheriff John Scott spent eight hours at the meeting texting each other on their BlackBerrys while in the audience.

After a public records request by members of, Ordinary California Citizens Concerned with Safety recently brought about the release of 400 pages of the text messages made during the meeting and a firestorm of controversy began. The messages included a lot of insulting remarks aimed at gun rights activists and various members of the county board.

Other revelations that since came to light included the Sheriff’s officials use of installed security cameras used to zoom in on and spy on the personal notes of board members during the meeting.

The normally Conservative Orange County voters have long demonstrated their political views to preserve gun rights. Now Hutchens will never survive any election in this jurisdiction in light of her political views against gun rights.

Orange County supervisors and voters have learned that Sheriff Hutchens and many of her top deputies need to be shown the door. The blatant disrespect for members of their own community who simply want the right to protect themselves and families is absolutely shameful. These people need to be booted out and replaced by officials that will protect the rights and interests of the voters they have sworn to serve.

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9 years 6 weeks ago, 11:25 PM


Eturnit3's picture

Lieutenant General
Join Date:
Dec 2008
Grass Valley , CA

This is important gotdamit, I know most of you will shake your head and say something like, "only in CA" or somethin but when shit like this happens anywhere in america it needs to be addressed by we the people. Ive researched the shit out of this and this kinda stuff is not to be taken lightly. I highly urge all of u to do the same research, and just when your just about to shake your head and say to yourself "only in california" imagine that this is just where the front line is... there is a meeting regarding this particular matter in Orange County Ca on feb 10th. This is our 2nd amendment rights here people, grow some balls please.

The time is coming when those who kill you will think they are offering service to God. Jesus - (John 16.2) A penny saved is a government oversight.
9 years 6 weeks ago, 8:28 AM


zx12rmike's picture

President Pro Temp
Join Date:
Dec 2008
commiefornia, United States

Yes, during the elections you need to remember all the posts about California and do something about it. I try at every election, and so does my wife!

"We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home" Thomas Jefferson
9 years 6 weeks ago, 9:47 AM


1hunter's picture

Join Date:
Jan 2009
not only in california

i live in wisconsin where the concealed carry bill has passed twice. our governor has vetoed twice. despite efforts from the n.r.a. he gets reelected

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