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5 years 23 weeks ago, 2:49 PM

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ak74 vs dragunov

i wont to buy an other rifle this summer and i'm on the fence. i wont ether a Polish ak 74 firing the 5.45 of a dragunov. i alraedy have a akm and a mousin nagant as you can see in my pic.

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5 years 23 weeks ago, 2:51 PM

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oh

i wonted to say- a Polish ak 74 firing the 5.45 or a dragunov.

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5 years 23 weeks ago, 2:54 PM

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dystubenrauch

Well, if you have a mosin, you have ammo for the Dragunov already, and you already have a hi-cap magazine fed AK-variant. I guess the question to ask yourself is what you want the gun for? If you don't plan on shooting things more than 300-400 meters out, the AK74 is going to be more fun and the Mosin has the punch you need for targets the AK74 can't handle. If you want to extend your range and start playing Sniper, then the Dragunov is the logical choice.

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5 years 23 weeks ago, 4:15 PM

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dystubenrauch

ryo have make study of the dragunov svu sniper rifle. it may very well be the shortest range sniper rifle in the world with an effective range of only 400 meters. it does however come in both semi auto the svu and full auto the svu-a, types. this weapon might be better use as a squad assist weapon, but has been use effectively in several instances, the Beslan school attack and in chechnya.
here are some stats that might interest you. these are from wikipedia, but have check and most of these stats are correct, which is somewhat unusual for wiki since they not alway very good at getting stats right.
SVU
Type Sniper rifle
Place of origin Russia
Service history
In service 1994-present
Used by Russian MVD
Production history
Manufacturer Central Design Research Bureau of Sporting and Hunting Arms
Variants SVU-A
Specifications
Weight 3.6 kg (unloaded without scope)
Length 87 cm, 34.2"
Barrel length 52 cm, 20.4"(4 grooves, 1 in 245 mm right-hand twist)
Cartridge 7.62x54mmR
Action Gas operated, rotating bolt
Muzzle velocity 830 m/s
Feed system 10 or 20-round detachable box magazine
Sights Front: Folding post inside ring
Rear: Folding U-notch

The Dragunov SVU (Russian: Снайперская винтовка укороченная, Snayperskaya these word mean, short sniper rifle. it is a bullpup design too.

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5 years 23 weeks ago, 4:28 PM

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The range of 400 meters is not accurate. I have fired the Dragunov, and while it doesn't even come close to matching any of our rifles, it will hit a man at much further than 400 meters. You have to remember that for a military sniper, incapacitating wounds or kills are preferred, but any hit that takes a bad guy out of the fight is a good one. I can hit a man-sized target the majority of the time at that range with an Aimpoint-sighted M4, let alone with a dedicated sniper rifle. The soviet concept was to mass produce weapons and vehicles that may not be as good as their opposition, but were more plentiful. The Dragunov really isn't even in the same category as other sniper rifles, it was designed as more of a designated marksman's rifle, based on the Table of Organization and Equipment (TO&E) of the cold war-era Soviet rifle platoon. A good comparison would be between the Dragunov and the M14s that our DMs carry now. For a guy who wants to shoot pumpkins across a soy bean field or kill an enemy soldier to equip himself with better weapons, the Dragunov isn't a bad choice.

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5 years 23 weeks ago, 4:41 PM

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thank you for correction. information from Russian Design company often not accurate either. however ryo was a bit skeptical about the short range because of two factor. 830 m/s muzzle velocity is good and the 7.62mm x 54mmR russian round is very powerful. with the newer 20.4 inch barrel this should easy give range out to 550 to 600 meter even though velocity will drop off dramatically beyond 300 meter. and ryo agree with you that this weapon would make better designate marksman rifle, but is officially listed as sniper rifle in Russian army order of small arm. is also listed in jane's small arm of the world as sniper rifle. even today russian army still follow methods develop first by general georgi chuikov at stalingrad in second world war of getting in close to enemy so they cannot use long range weaponry effectively. chuikov first coin phrase, "hugging combat" and by this at time he meant get very close in to 50 meter or less. is very effective in urban combat neh. so sniper rifle range at 400 to 600 meter to cover units hugging in close seem to make sense in russian concept of battle neh.

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5 years 23 weeks ago, 4:30 PM

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AK74 and Dragunov

you can get surplus plinking ammo for the Dragunov for quite a bit cheaper than 5.45, but most is corrosive. Both are cool rifles, but it really depends on the range you want to shoot, like runaway said above. I have seen someone shoot Dragunov fairly accurately at 600M and its said to have an effective range of 800M, so its a pretty fun rifle to shoot. It has a "cool factor" with the original scope too, but I'm just a sucker for old mil surps.

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