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ambidextrous AR lowers

So I am thinking about my next build and I heard of a company that makes ambidextrous lowers.

http://axtsweapons.com/

Has anyone seen or used their product?
Is it a gimmick or a good idea?

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 4:22 PM

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useful.

If shot in your strong arm side you would be able to manipulate the controls easier weak hand.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 4:25 PM

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I'd build my own with installing after market ambi controls like I'm doing with my SR556 right now...

The lower alone is $429.00... <----- that is outrageous in my opinion...

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 4:40 PM

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interesting lower.

seenem,but I'm pretty new to ar's so iv never used one.looks nice,really like it,but unless you are a southpaw,or have one in your family that will be using it i don't see the point in paying 450 for a lower.especialy if it dosnt accept a standard mag catch as used on other a r15 to make it lefty friendly id use the bad lever from magpul,and a mag release by vltor??also the proprietary hammer pin could become an issue if you lose or damage it and the company was out of business or you need the gun sooner than you could get parts shipped.
however,after saying all that ill contradict myself and say i like using different stuff than the next guy too,and if it blows your hair back and you can afford it get it.id just order up some extra proprietary parts.no different than any of the other weird ar lowers that take glock mags grease gun mags or even the others that take threaded bolt release pins i suppose.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 4:47 PM

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they call it an a r45
http://www.cncguns.com/images/P9240489.JPG

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 5:08 PM

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I like it

looks like a good setup.buy once,cry once

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 6:16 PM

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I was thinking about a 308 gun, can not decide if I want to buy the OBR or make my own.
Thanks for the input.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 9:56 PM

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axts makes nice lowers. I've never used one, but have seen them around. I agree that their ambi's are pricey, but if that doesn't matter... If you're planning on building check out the MA-TEN platform or if you can wait a couple of months seekins.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 8:15 AM

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I am weary of the magwell design. It seems like it would make reloads more difficult.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 11:51 AM

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their 308 will have a traditional magwell

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 12:07 PM

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Shot really nice and no issues with feeding and ejection. Very Accurate, used Mac 10 stick mags.

I'm thinking an SBR is in the future down the road. For QCB it would be a good one, but have to break down and buy a Glock 21 to match it, or build a 1911...

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 1:12 PM

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was that .45 AR blowback operated,or did it still use a standard ar gas system/carrier?

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 2:43 PM

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Same guy is doing working on a couple of different calibers including 357 sig.

Dave brings it in again and I'll take some photos of it.

As far as a .45 ACP QCB weapon, I'd take a Thompson any time over anything else pretty much.

But, if I had a choice of the KRISS or an AR in .45 acp, I'd take the AR ...

Shot the KRISS in Semi and Full Auto, don't care for either...

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 12:24 PM

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mag wells

When I drill reloads, I notice a huge difference in flared mag wells compared to non flared.
I will never go back to non flared after the results I get with the flared. Reaper, do you know if the Seekins are going to be flared? they have no information on their website.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 1:28 PM

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 1:38 PM

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thank you

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 1:45 PM

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flare

I would think someone makes something like lancer's L15 for 308 but I don't know of anything

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 1:51 PM

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Talk about extreme flare, Brian Flanagan would have a hard time keeping up with Lancer's L15...

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 1:55 PM

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scratch that

read Glenn's comments in the thread below... apparently they've already made changes to the lower shown above. That pic was taken over a year ago.
http://snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2627295&...

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 2:10 PM

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matching components

Do you subscribe to the idea of making your components match for a better rifle? IT seems like that is a big argument Glenn is using for his rifle.
LaRue OBR might prove this hypothesis, but it is hard to compare every rifle that has been built by everyone that has built a rifle.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 2:31 PM

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it makes sense

I can't argue with that because he certainly knows more than I do. If I were building a precision rig, I would get the upper and lower together for best fit and tolerances. Whether its noveske, Mega, black rain, seekins etc.. they all sell sets.
Compatibility of components is one problem I have with building a 308. That's why I'm interested in the ma-ten. I'm would like to build one myself, but I'll probably be buying a different complete rifle first so there's plenty of time for research. The problem you have with building a 308 is you could end up with a .5 moa or a 2 moa rifle. Who do you call if you end up with a 2 moa rifle? I realize that's unlikely, but you get the point... so matching components couldn’t hurt.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 2:42 PM

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Building a .308

Reaper,
From I have been reading today, I would have to agree with your assessment. Too many different variables to account for when constructing a .308. My decision to wait is based on only 4 hours of research, so I can only imagine the convolution your brain is experiencing...

When I win the lottery I will start my project rifle.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 3:15 PM

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 3:19 PM

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I will hold you to that...

good luck

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 3:30 PM

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 2:57 PM

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are you left handed clint? or do you just like the idea of being able to run your system with either side? Its always a good idea to train offhanded in case of injury. They made us train one-handed, but never let us shoot off hand, even one handed with strong hand...too much ammo use I rekon..lol I keep meaning to go and shoot with my off hand but never remember when Im out there. I know its a big deal for Glocks, the whole thing with the gen4 is the new ambi mag release and interchangeable back-strap etc.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 3:14 PM

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I just made an AR style rifle and installed the Magpul BAD lever, but I am not sold on it for a number of reasons, but I will give two.
1. If I have it engaged while I pull back on the charging handle, I can lock up the bolt.
2. If I hit it against a wall when I shoot from a concealed spot, I could break it off at the connection point. Seems to me that the weak point of the system is where it "grabs" the bolt release.

If I can get a system that is engineered for ambidextrous use, it makes sense to me to go with it.

I agree with you BFT about training with your reaction side. You never know if you are going to get in a gun fight, and you never know if you are going to get shot in the trigger side. So I like to be prepared for the time that I am not prepared for it.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 3:30 PM

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I was lookin at the bad lever too..let me know how you like it...if its worth installing. I thought it was a good idea, makes locking the bolt back a lot quicker/easier....atleast looks like it does,

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 3:33 PM

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BAD Lever

I say for 40 bucks it is worth it. Speeds up reloads and FTE scenarios.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 3:36 PM

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do you have an over sized charging handle? I saw some I liked, at a local shop that had just a big lever that should fit on your oem handle...I think both of those would be good upgrades...does the bad stick out a lot and cause catch problems, like on cloths, sling, trees...etc...or is it low profile...my AR goes in the woods lol

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 3:39 PM

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charging handle

check out the bcm gunfighter ch. I have two mod 4's

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 3:42 PM

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Charging handle

Yeah, I went with the BCM Gunfighter. I like it a lot and BCM is a great company. i ordered in on a sunday and got it in the mail on wednesday.
I have not had any problems with the charging handle. I have a GGG mount for my T-1, the cam lever on the mount and the charging handle are close enough to the same distance from the rifle that it would be up to a micrometer to tell the difference.
It is also far enough back that it should not be a problem, I think it would depend more on how you sling the weapon.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 4:03 PM

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ohh good deal. thats good to know then, I mainly use my Tarienco VTP in single stage( single point), as I dont have a QD mount on my front rail to use it as a two point. not sure if I want the mod 4 or 3. Ive also got a scope on my AR and its hard to charge with the scope on, so close to the handle.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 4:10 PM

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I had the same problem when I had my scope on my AR, the BCM Gunfighter mod 4 is one of the best changes I made to an AR, I will not have another AR without one. I can charge the AR with the reaction side only part of the handle, not having to grab the whole "T" part of the handle.

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