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2 years 32 weeks ago, 8:21 PM

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I know this topic has come up before, but was watching it today, and this show is STUPID!!! Would anybody actually pay 10,000 for an AR10 with a grenade launcher? 15,000 for a copy of the Anzio Ironworks 20mm? And putting a screw-on barrel ( iulike the M2HB) but with no provisions for locking the barrel in to prevent walk or headspacing? The girls look good, but NOTHING else is worth watching.

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2 years 32 weeks ago, 8:52 PM

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I agree

throw enough money around see what happens.I don't watch it much.

i tried being reasonable,i didn't like it, NRA LIFE MEMBER,USMC VETERAN
2 years 32 weeks ago, 1:38 AM

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try the show sons of gun about the same

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2 years 32 weeks ago, 2:05 AM

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Both shows attempt to irritate and embarrass one another but in varying forms of humiliation. Also both of their stories show a lack of understanding of guns and exaggerate the power of weapons which in turn brings few into the liberals coal (I would say heart but they don't have one). I don't watch either and hope both are canceled soon.

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2 years 32 weeks ago, 7:43 AM

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Agree don't care for either show. Neither does much to educate folks about guns, their builds are beyond anything that most gun owners would want,it's for people with to much money and too little sense

2 years 32 weeks ago, 7:48 AM

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I've seen some novelty builds on there that looked fun, ie: the volley gun. But I agree, to much money and to little sense. I just can't believe the prices they try to get. $15,000.00 for a SSA Colt replica? For that price it better be gold and I get the women for a weekend!

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2 years 32 weeks ago, 9:08 AM

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This show and their ilk such as SG and a few of the web shows are nothing more than propagating the myth that with Price comes quality for one thing. For another they spread a myth that they are in fact the best and worth the monies they demand for their products.

For example, Guns and Ammo does a spread on a customized Glock which costs $1800.00.

It is the Kats Ass and if you want to compete this guns is going to put you right up there with the best sponsored shooters in the world as long as you take the time to train with it.

It's a freaking myth in my opinion. Glocks value is in the initial cost, fit and almost flasless function along with the fact that they will eat anything you feed them and almost never burp it back up on you.

So ok, lets see. We have a $500.00 new Glock 17C, We put a race connector in it, titainum guide rode, extra power guide rod and myabe splurge and put a 7 MOA Doctor Optics red dot on it.

We have now put an extra $400.00 into the weapon and it will now run with that $1800.00 pistol, if we like we can throw a match grade non-polygon barrel in it and shoot our own customized loads.

What in the hell would give anyone reason to buy the other if they are seriously into shooting comps?

Or better yet, spend $450.00 on a CZ 75b, put $150.00 in basic parts and do you own action and trigger job, buy the capacity mags your needing for the type of matches and have a firearm that will out shoot any Glock any day of the week, much faster, more accurate and with a more natural point of aim all at further distances?

Glocks claims to fame were, the first mass issued LEO semi auto and a Police Officer to a Factory Stock Gloack and took over the circuit with it.

Or say, Kimber, $1400.00 for a Full Custom House Factory carry 1911, that wears recoil springs out like a Maverick did shocks on wash board dirt roads, it is ammo picky to the point that you might discover at the wrong time it has decided it doesn't really care for the ammo you have been carrying in it for the last year. Yet they always review them as the must have and well worth the loot.

But they never tell you that you can pick up an American Classic 1911 5 inch, 4 inch and 3 inch for under $500.00 and it will out shoot, out function, eat anything, it all hand fit and have all the custom features a Kimber comes with but the damn thing just plain works. Always...

I do not begrudge a company making profits, I do not begrude others promoting those products, I even find it amusing at times when they really do come up with an upgrade that is well worth the reasonable price and then adjust that price to justify the price of the assembled weapon.

What I find repugnant is the commercial process that the myths are speard and the dogma gets absorbed by those new to shooting spots and such to the point that those deciples of propagation are seen as demi gods of firearms and all thing Bang.

ok, I'll be quiet and keep those opinions in the back pocket next to their pucked up locker once again.

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No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
2 years 31 weeks ago, 7:42 PM

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ISD, you speak true.

BTW, I have a hard time watching ANY TV because of my fubar ears but I watched all the current crop of gun shows, part way through, ONCE. Never again. Junque!
I will watch the History channel specials on guns, the shows I've seen were strickly gun talk, no politics and no B.S.

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2 years 32 weeks ago, 9:18 AM

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Stupid

I hate these shows and think the people on them are, at least unwittingly, selling gun owners out by making it look like we're all a bunch of nuts who want to own cannons and missiles. These shows are doing more for Sarah Brady et al than we can ever hope to undo.

Oh, and also there's no way in HELL I'm paying $15000 for a replica of anything! The only way I would pay that kind of coin for a gun would be if it had belonged to: John Wayne, General George S. Patton, Ronald Reagan, or Clint Eastwood and it could be PROVEN. $15000 for a Colt Replica, you can get the real deal for less than a third of that!

2 years 32 weeks ago, 10:32 AM

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MattyTheJet wrote:
I hate these shows and think the people on them are, at least unwittingly, selling gun owners out by making it look like we're all a bunch of nuts who want to own cannons and missiles. These shows are doing more for Sarah Brady et al than we can ever hope to undo.

Oh, and also there's no way in HELL I'm paying $15000 for a replica of anything! The only way I would pay that kind of coin for a gun would be if it had belonged to: John Wayne, General George S. Patton, Ronald Reagan, or Clint Eastwood and it could be PROVEN. $15000 for a Colt Replica, you can get the real deal for less than a third of that!

You hit the nail on the head!

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2 years 32 weeks ago, 9:27 AM

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very, VERY true...

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
2 years 32 weeks ago, 9:53 AM

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Guess this is the contradiction of American life. The only people with the money to piss it away on something mindnumbingly stupid are the ones who will do just that. #SMH

2 years 31 weeks ago, 7:27 PM

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I looked for a shootable first gen SAA for a couple three years.. Found some half affordable ones.. Meaning their out there if you're cool with them being pretty much in the white.. If you start getting any sort of blue (as in more than 20%) then the price jumps big time.. Fact is if the grips are good their good investments, and of course one you can shoot.. Same with any WWII weapon thats parkerized.. Tickles me to see guys debate this.. Thier not going to be there much longer.. Look whats happened in the world of muscle cars.. Same thing cept maybe more so.. Thier not going to build any more, and wise to get a driver (or shooter) and not a trailor queen or wall hanger..

NOTHING i have is more fun to shoot than my old stuff..

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2 years 31 weeks ago, 8:59 PM

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I'm with you, Greg

I love old firearms and curios. Historic, et al. But if you can't shoot 'em, then to hell with 'em!

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2 years 31 weeks ago, 9:38 AM

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Saint J.M. Browning wrote:
I love old firearms and curios. Historic, et al. But if you can't shoot 'em, then to hell with 'em!

I am, and always have been, of the mindset that a gun you can't shoot and have fun with isn't worth having.

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