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5 years 27 weeks ago, 10:38 PM

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ammo for 9mm

got a S&W 9mm for home protection. whats the best ammo to use for protection and then also for target practice or is there 1 good for both. thanks.

5 years 27 weeks ago, 10:40 PM

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9mm ammo

for targets buy full metal jacket type.walmart is cheap for this.for protection,i prefer hollow points.

5 years 27 weeks ago, 10:59 PM

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would the full metal jacket work just as good for protection if it came dwon to it.

5 years 27 weeks ago, 10:44 PM

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9mm ammo

yeah walmart has 100 pack winchester ball ammo for 19 and change. there is some home defense ammo out there that is fragmented but it's like 17 dollars for a 6 pack when hollow points work just as well.

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5 years 27 weeks ago, 11:25 PM

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mc24!

ball ammo will work if you hit your target enough times in vital areas but this is why the ammo manufacturers sell hollow points and other types of ammo.full metal jacket ammo works fine for target practice but should not be used for protection ammo!

5 years 27 weeks ago, 7:24 AM

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Stay away from FMJ ammo for defense, aspecially in 9mm. Even if you hit a bad guy, you can pretty much guarantee the 9mm round will punch all the way through him/her. There are two aspects to the so called "stopping power". Energy transfer and tissue damage. Energy transfer refers to the amount of kinetic energy released into the target by the round. The combination of bullet weight and velocity will determine the amount of energy released. When the weights are the same, the velocity makes the difference and the same goes for if the velocities are the same. Ideally, the round will stay inside the body, expending all of its kinetic energy into the target. As far as handguns go, the energy aspect is pretty minor. you aren't going to get a shockwave in the body big enough to rupture surrounding organs as reliably with a pistol as you would with a high-power rifle. The other aspect is tissue damage. Simply put, the larger the bullet, the more tissue it will damage. A fmj expands very little if at all, so the 35/100 of an inch diameter of your bullet is going to destroy tissue in that area, secondary missiles aside. A hollowpoint or frangible round expands or breaks up, thus causing permanent damage to more tissue and allowing a better chance to damage vital organs. When you are shooting someone, reliably stopping them from continuing to be a threat is achieved in one of two ways; central nervous shut down (i.e. taking out the brain or spinal cord), and hypovolemic shock. This is caused by loss of bloodpressure sufficient to shut down the body's ability to function. think of it like loss of oil pressure in your car. The more and bigger holes you make, the quicker hypovolemic shock is achieved. I've gone over my allotted book length response, so hopefully I've helped a little and not hurt your eyes too much.

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5 years 27 weeks ago, 7:40 AM

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Agree with Greasypaws

Also I have purchased Ammo from Cheaper then dirt, if you order enough to justify the shipping and are fortunate enough to live in a state that allows shipping of ammo to you.

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5 years 27 weeks ago, 9:51 AM

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Read some of the info in the forums re: Home defense. Never use FMJ for home defense. 1) It can go thru things, ie: body, wall, house etc. You are responsible for anything that that bullet hits.
2) Courts frown on FMJ as self defense ammo.

5 years 27 weeks ago, 1:58 PM

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Never understood this

samD wrote:
2) Courts frown on FMJ as self defense ammo.

I know that's true, but I've never understood that. Hollow points are designed to cause severe damage in a human. Since the courts will often go out of their way to blame the victim/homeowner for bagging a bad guy, I would have thought they would frown on the more damaging ammo. You know: Cruel and unusual punishment. the bad guy was only trying to steal your stuff, rape your daughter, and kill you. Give him a break!

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5 years 27 weeks ago, 9:54 AM

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hmmm

get a jacketed hollow point, kinda like em powrball ammo.

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5 years 27 weeks ago, 2:03 PM

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The only reason I can imagine that the courts would prefer you use HP rounds is because that's what the police use and the city's lawyers have already blessed off on the dept's choice. if it's good for police, it's good for you. As long as you use factory loaded ammo and not handloads, you should be alright.

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5 years 27 weeks ago, 2:07 PM

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9mm

check out any of corbon's lines. get +P. you will be good

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5 years 27 weeks ago, 6:37 PM

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Good 9m ammo for street or home defense 1. Hydra-shok 2.Golden saber's 3. Hornady XTP/TAP, all good stuff, 124gr for standard weight and if you like heavy, use the 147gr. in the hornady and the hydra-shok listed at 1000FPS. The Golden saber 124gr. comes in standard or +P version. I personally have used and shot them all and also tested them in drywall mud with various objects in front of them and measured the depth's of penetration and upset of each bullet. winchester 147gr is good also good expansion.

5 years 27 weeks ago, 1:11 AM

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9mm ammo

i swear by hornaday 147 JHP but . . . .and this is important in my opinion. . . i do not practice or teach others to practice with a FMJ if using JHP for home defense. it may be a minute amount but i am a firm believer that there is a flight path difference between the two and would not "practice" with something i am not going to use in a real situation. Luckly i found Blazer brass 147 grain JHP (one case) and i practice with it in my home defense S&W 9mm. a little bit of price savings (i fire 2 clips a month through it)

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