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6 years 27 weeks ago, 5:20 PM

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Ammo question

I do not reload. Would someone please tell me what +P means!

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 5:28 PM

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+p

Means +pressure I believe....Just a hotter load.

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 5:30 PM

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+P is a factory load. To make it simple it would
be like 22LR and Mini Mag 22LR.
It's a super hot load and be sure your gun is marked
+P or don't shoot it.

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 5:34 PM

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Then +P basically has more or better powder?

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 5:37 PM

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right, it is a hotter load, some times it's the
primer not the powder but it has a bigger bang

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 5:44 PM

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I'm sure it has a bigger bang and that is why you need to be careful of over pressure. I only buy what is at Wally World. The Kabooms I have posted scare the shit out of me. If I ever had a stupid thought of putting hot loads, those pics settled me down, shit that is a scary chance to take.

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 5:47 PM

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It's Perfectly safe

as long a your gun is rated for it.....if you have a doubt about that I'd just shoot the regular stuff.

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 5:53 PM

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I have no need to shoot anything else I'm good, thank you

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 5:58 PM

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for shooting out of short barrelled .38's to get the best expansion in a self defense round. The regular stuff just doesn't gain enough velocity out of the short barrel.

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 6:03 PM

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Shak thanks

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 5:52 PM

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mike if youre talking about the guns posted
that had blown up those were guns some dummy
screwed up reloading. If you have grandpas 75
year old 38 you might have a gun smith look at
it before you shoot modern ammo

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 6:05 PM

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Mike several years ago my wife and I custom
hand loaded. Custom loading involves measuring
every case, measuring and weighing every bullet
and weighing every powder charge.
My wife liked her Ruger Super Black Hawk 44 mag
and liked to shoot 24 grains of 2400 powder.
When you pressed the bullet in you compressed the powder.
That is the hotest load for a 44 and kickes like a mule.
She called it Balls To The Wall LOL.
Most modern guns will handle hot loads but you
have to be very careful hand loading and don't mix
powders. Such as 24 grains of 2400 is acceptable for
a 44 mag but 24 grains of Bulls Eye and you have a
gun like the pictures.

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 6:08 PM

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CW, your wife is a maniac! Hot loads in a 44 Mag Jesus. I have quite awhile before I could even think of retiring (Thank you Obozo) and getting into reloading. I appreciate all the info thanks! I wouldn't piss off your wife either!!

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 6:18 PM

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The Ruger Super Black Hawk rolls up and to the right.
It dosent kick back on you or go straight up. It is
really comfortable to shoot with Packmier (spl) grips
By the way she can score at 100 yards with a 44. I don't
piss her off either LOL Thats like shooting the headlights
out of a car at 100 yards. Her dad retired Navy and she was
shooting his 1911 at 8 years old. Does that explain things ?

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 6:23 PM

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It means you say Yes Dear a lot and I can't blame ya!!!!lol
Can you post a pic of the revolver in question?

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 6:27 PM

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RIGHT

But if the shit goes down I don't have to worry
about her covering my back or wonder if she can
handle it
And the way things are right now shit might be
around the corner.
By the way her currant choice is a S&W 357, It's a
little easier to handle.

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 6:29 PM

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Well, if something isn't done about this current situation, the shit storm is just around the corner. Imagine if this were his second term, how much trouble we would be in!

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 5:37 PM

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I think so.....

I'd have to ask my father In-Law to be sure....I've never reloaded any +P.

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 5:45 PM

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Rossi 38spl

I have a Rossi 38spl I can't find a model number on.
It is a small frame 5 shot 3in with target sights.
It shoots very well but is a little small for my hands
Any one have a clue on it's value?
It has a 7 diget serial number so can't be extremely old.

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 5:51 PM

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I just saw a Rossi model r461 Buy it Now for under 400

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 5:35 PM

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I don't remember who sugested the 357 over the
38spl but I whole heartedly agree. Also any 357
will handle +P 38spl so it would be a very good choice

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 6:30 PM

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That load your wife used in the Super Blackhawk was fine in that revolver (I assume that she was using a 240 gr bullet), and would also be OK in a Redhawk or Super Redhawk, or anything from Freedom Arms. 24 gr 2400 with a 240 gr bullet would be more than I'd ever want to run in an S&W 29 or 629, but Ruger revolvers are more robust than any S&W except the new .460 & .500 X-frames. I knew a guy once who loaded his ammo so hot that he had to carry a couple of screwdrivers & some Loctite when he shot his S&W 29, because after every cylinder the screws would back out! He also had it modified to <2 lb trigger pull. An overmacho redneck if I ever saw one.
I don't have enough knowledge or experience with Rossi revolvers to know where to tell you to look for the model number. Greasypaws may well know.

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 6:34 PM

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Thanks guy. At the time we were loading the hot
loads we were also camping and hiking in bear
country. Do I need to say anymore ?
Cody Wy area

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 6:43 PM

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Sounds like a good load for the purpose. A friend of mine who fishes in Alaska & carries an S&W 639 found some ammo loaded up there with 300 gr hardcast lead SWC's. They're a handful, but they make sense for the intended reason. Great penetration.

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 6:46 PM

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Ruger

The Ruger was more comfortable for her but one
in every 500 would swell the case and hard to
eject with that load.
There was a purpose in our madness. Practice with
what you are going to shoot.

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