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3 years 27 weeks ago, 8:48 AM

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Hey guys long time no see, gotta a question for you guys? I own a uberti single action 44mag(cowboy gun) now while fun to shoot 44 mag ammo is a little pricey and hurts a little after a hundred rounds or more. Here is my question would it be possible to load and fire 44Special out of it or would it be a bad idea? Oh and for any body in the pensacola Fl area there is a gun show june 25th

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3 years 27 weeks ago, 9:17 AM

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Jeff, my understanding is that, if the pistol can handle .44Mag, .44 Special is good to go.

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3 years 27 weeks ago, 11:09 AM

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BTW, Jeff, when you say single action, do you mean it's a break open, or it is actually a single shot? The Ubertis that I am familiar with have cylinders and either swing out or are break top.

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3 years 27 weeks ago, 11:17 AM

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damn accurate pistol...

Tell you what, todays Single 6's do not have anything over the old cap and ball other than a metallic cartridge. All they do is put a different cylinder in it and change the back plate out and it's good to go. Kinda cool how the front sight is a gold bead and the rear sight is a notch in the top/face of the hammer. 2.5 inch groups with a flyer opening it up to 4 inchs out of something made in the 1800's with metallic cartridges in it at 45 feet is great imo.

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3 years 27 weeks ago, 11:11 AM

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yes...

.44 m, 44 sp

just like .357 m, 38 sp

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3 years 27 weeks ago, 12:16 PM

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It is neither, it is one that you have to open the gate and load one at a time while spinning the cylinder with the hammer half cocked

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3 years 27 weeks ago, 12:34 PM

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Sorry, when you said single action, it wasn't registering. I'm tired right now. I was thinking single shot.

Cool, it's a replica Colt SAA. Nice. I have a friend who has one. Great pistol. I didn't know they made them in .44.

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3 years 27 weeks ago, 12:39 PM

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Yep they do and I know the feeling bout being tired I work offshore as an enginner on a crew boat, pulling night shift

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3 years 27 weeks ago, 12:50 PM

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Yeah. It's crazy how it seems some of the jobs you would least want a tired person doing is the ones most likely to be overworked and tired.

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3 years 27 weeks ago, 12:56 PM

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you need to invest in some JC Sandels, that is one hell of a walk home if things go wackybobo on ya.

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3 years 27 weeks ago, 4:07 PM

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shoot the .44 special

no problem,although .44 mag has gone down a couple dollars per b0x of fifty,i just bought my first box again since last summer.33.00 for 50 rounds =66.cents per round 240g JSP WW.

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3 years 27 weeks ago, 10:49 AM

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Thanks Lucky

I use ammunitontogo.com they have good prices and the service is good

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3 years 27 weeks ago, 12:23 PM

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ammo...

I have mentioned it before,but check out ammoengine.com. They compare prices of several on-line sites and give you a daily break-down of price.Best part, it's free to use. no signing up, or entering email.... nothing.

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3 years 26 weeks ago, 10:18 AM

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Hey Jeff.... boy i have read about as much garbage as i can handle from obviously auto shooters..... First of all most 44# Cowboy revolvers are usually a 44 Special Caliber. Second you dont need hella-sious speed to use it..... just load up 240 grain cast bullets with your favorite powder brand for a 44 special load into your reloader and have all the fun you can handle...... you will be able to shoot for pennies compared to $1.50 a shoot for magnums......

Rock......

3 years 26 weeks ago, 10:56 AM

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Rockweiler wrote:
Hey Jeff.... boy i have read about as much garbage as i can handle from obviously auto shooters.....

Obviously...

and we read too and most of us shoot revolvers also...

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First of all most 44# Cowboy revolvers are usually a 44 Special Caliber. Second you dont need hella-sious speed to use it..... just load up 240 grain cast bullets with your favorite powder brand for a 44 special load into your reloader and have all the fun you can handle...... you will be able to shoot for pennies compared to $1.50 a shoot for magnums....Rock......

Also, he stated what it is, it is a .44 Magnum just as they make it in 44/40, 357 magnum and 45 Colt....

http://www.uberti.com/firearms/single_action_cattleman.php

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3 years 26 weeks ago, 4:40 PM

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Rockweiler wrote:
Hey Jeff.... boy i have read about as much garbage as i can handle from obviously auto shooters.....

Rock......
If you are so bothered by people asking questions about weapon systems they are unfamiliar with, you might want to find a more suitable site. I think that most of the regulars will support me when I say that I have a fair amount of firearms experience. However, I'm sorry to say, I'm one of those poor mis-guided souls.... the dreaded auto-shooter. I have just put on hold my first SAA revolver, so I may be asking similar questions in the next month or so.

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3 years 26 weeks ago, 11:09 AM

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This is one sweet shooting pistol what would shock anyone who hasn't shot one before with how accurate it is and how little recoil you feel...

The 45 Colt shoots just as nice but hits harder...

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 26 weeks ago, 11:35 AM

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eh, sorry about the serving of crow...

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 26 weeks ago, 2:35 PM

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what?

Rocky ease off the caffeine my friend,i just answered the mans question.

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3 years 26 weeks ago, 3:51 PM

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and he got an answer or three...

I know... shuadup isd...

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 26 weeks ago, 4:26 PM

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Just want to clear up the .357 comment..38 special NO +P in a revolver with no top strap. The Scofield and Remington copies might handle a +P. I couldn't say.

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3 years 26 weeks ago, 5:47 PM

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Did you talk to wild Bill , and do not call him that. John

3 years 26 weeks ago, 6:02 PM

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No sir. Still working out some bugs.

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3 years 26 weeks ago, 6:05 PM

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Use my handle to go where few can go, been tied up with sister and it is touch and go, and trying to take a break from all the heartache it gets rough after a while, we all know that though. John

3 years 21 weeks ago, 11:01 PM

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Well at one time I had 12 44s. I also had a 44 special. I love 44 specials. Lighter loads are very pleasant and siuted for many things. Heavy loads like you can get at buffalo bore is all anyone needs in my opinion. Just make sure you clean the cylinder out well before you shoot magnums through the pistol again. The powder build up from the shorter cartidge can elavate pressure. If you clean them good..no problem. I usually use 44 specials for everything except hunting. And sometimes even then. Elmer keith used heavy 44 specials to good effect for decades.

3 years 19 weeks ago, 8:50 AM

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Question for you all: My main focus on my guns and shooting is they have to be fun and enjoyable to shoot. I have no use for a gun in my collection that I don't like shooting. That being said, if I told you I really enjoy shooting my recent Blackhawk with .38 or .357 mag in it, is the kick alot more with a like gun chambered for either .44 or a .45??? I ask because I'm thinking about getting a Vaquero chambered in .45, but if it's a real ass kicker (for me) then I'm out!

I guess I could always rent one at the local indoor range to see for myself.......

Any advice is appreciated!

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3 years 19 weeks ago, 9:58 AM

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the .45 Colt is light. The .44-40 (.40 WCF) is not bad. Probably less than the .357. The .44Mag is substantially heavier recoil than the .38/.357. But .44 Spcl. is good. You can use these to practice and play. And load the mags for self defense.

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3 years 19 weeks ago, 10:29 AM

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Thanks SJMB.....I might just get a .45 Vaquero and skip the .44..........

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3 years 19 weeks ago, 11:22 AM

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Keep in mind. If you are going to reload, you can tone down revolver loads to an enjoyable, accurate power. I shoot low power .38s in my .357 and its about as mild as .22lr.
Same can be done with .44 to some extent. Launching a 200gr bullet is going to recoil, no matter how low the velocity. I'm with you, it needs to be fun!

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.44 mag

I have a .44 mag vaquero. That sucker is pretty mean. I can't say that its my favorite gun to shoot. It about took my thumb off once because I had it right by the cylinder and it bit me. I only take it out when I feel like being the whipping boy. Leather gloves help.

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3 years 19 weeks ago, 12:05 PM

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Good point on reloading to a more manageable level..........now I just need to get my reloading ass in gear!

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3 years 19 weeks ago, 12:14 PM

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I like both answers from STJB & Vaq, But the more you shoot, the more you get use to a certain type of recoil and how fast you want to put you site on the money for next shot. I say Go have some fun first with them all, and really have some shooting time, and it will be like a third hand, and come fast to you. As you all know by now the 22lr is a favorite of mine. western, trick, any type shooting. yes I have others and 44's ak's etc. But I am a western enthusiast. calamity Jane did all her trick shooting, even from a horseback standing up, with a henry or winchester 22lr, never used anything else. There is a piece in the library about wild Bill Hitckcock, and it says he had a pair of Vaqquerro silver plated 22 single action sixes, that he wore for over 90% of gunfights and trickshots, with a black silver studded belt and holster. They note a few days before being murdered a man was over a hundred yards away and yelled that indians killed some people in a wagon outside of the town, the sheriff was with wild Bill and said more likely he did it. There haven't been any indians around here for years. sure enough when when the sheriff asked the guy to come closer and show them where the wagon was, the horseman drew his weapon. Wild Bill had already drawn and shot him once, by then about 20 people were there as witnesses. The man on the horse fell to the ground dead. The sheriff asked Bill was that luk ? Bill said I was aiming for the right eye, if anywhere else it is luck! They walked up and sure enough the 22lr went into the right eye and instant kill. Then Bill was Murdered two nights later mostly believed from that mans brother, who snuck up on him at a card table and shot him in the back of his head, I believe at 23 or 25 years old. What I got out of this was if you can shoot where you want to. Bigger only counts with a grizzly, or buffalo, or whatever in war etc. But just targets have fun and be the best there is and you can be with different calibers too. JC Always longwinded ?

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damn aces and eights... I'm superstitious

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of Wild Bill Hickock shooting .22s,he had a pair of 1851 Navy .36 caliber pistols which he is credited with carrying always.I would like to know the source of your statement regarding the .22s so i can read it myself.thanks

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good question

I also thought that Jack McCall killed him. At least that’s who was hanged and who they do the re-enactments portraying at Deadwood... JLC!!!!! Explain yourself!!!

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3 years 19 weeks ago, 3:19 PM

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I would like the people who run and organized this gun and supposedly expression site, of many subjects, to please remove my name from this site and anything that has to do with it's listing or listings, as of now 6:14pm Tuesday August 2nd 2011. I will delete anything on my end that I can. A great many of you seem to be straight shooters, and generally nice guys and gals. Good luck to you all. JLC

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check your PM and let me know what you would like me to do...

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wtf?

Jlc, it seems that you have buffalo bill cody and wild bill mixed up.
I'd really like to know what made you want to leave.
Pm me if you are still around. Thanks, vaq.

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Sorry to hear you are leaving us JLC, seems everyone here liked you a lot. Travel safely my friend.

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3 years 19 weeks ago, 12:57 PM

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I first read a book on it in 7th grade out of library, cannot go there now, later I saw on history channel about PT Barnum and his circus and then the wild west shows, and actual pictures (moving) not to good, but half decent for its time, even said chief sitting Bull, but had Annie Oakley and Bill with wild west show and calamity jane because of daintyness, but definately mentioned 22.cal I do not know if he used others, I am sure he did, but that he was the greatest shot is without question. They also showed these look like a pamphlet, but called them frontier books, and supposedly one of the books had wild Bill, in this witness shootout, and always sat with his back against a wall when playing poker, but on this night did not and was murdered. You know LBC do you always take everything you hear and read so seriously ? And Reaper what are you smoking ? Something deadwood what? I think it was George Washington that had wooden teeth ? Jerry if I am wrong, say so, if you know better, not a big deal, at least not to me. I have no reason to doubt you or Reaper on anything, if you know better, chime in, I would love to hear it.John

3 years 19 weeks ago, 3:35 PM

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always late, sorry, but you are probably right, and it did go on to say that it was the first timebill sat with his back not against the wall, because he was supersticous, that somebody would kill him from behind. They did. Anne Oakley was another fan of the 22lr Henry, mainly because of the tube fed and super smooth action. It is still there, I must admit. You have to break in the 44, or 44mag, or 45 a little then the action is almost silent. I still cannot figure out the Gun Anthony made for me. I said Anthony make me a 44-40, and told him what I wanted brass etc. You all know he is a long friend. So I get back a 44 magnum written on top by side of back site, on other side it says 44 special. then all the fancy stuff and where you would least expect it the serial # JC001, stock from tree in borneo, along with a letter saying John, Patent infringement can only let me go so far, here is the best I could do. Anthony. Great Octagon barrell and all brass reciever adjustable site stock is out of this world wood wise, and a box of 44 magnum shells from hornaday, and a picture of the Lincoln Gold Henry in the Smithonian Institute. and I got the balls to call and say I wanted a brass screw for barrell ring contrast. Laughed for a half an hour. Great gun, great company, family run, america all the way. You go to a gun show and look somewhere and when you turn around there is anthony handing someone a rifle, for free. Cool guy. JC

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JLC i had that in the form of a question,not an aquisation.If Wild Bill ever had a brace of .22 caliber pistols that he shot i just wanted to know so don't put it on me if you feel you were called out or something.I am a big fan of the wild west,and really enjoy stories about those days,why did you change your name to anonymous?

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What happend to JC?

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howdy Larry

Looks like a bit o drama. How the heck are you doing?

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Howdy Amigo

Yea, looks like just a bit???
Doing OK, How about you?

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15 hours today. Chewing on my 1st meal of the day.

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Yep Vaq

I do remember & truly miss the days. All those years of busting ass, killing myself on those dirty old trucks & cussing every minute of it,,, I sure do miss it!! This forced retirement sucks...
Burning any powder lately I shot 100 each 44 mag, 357mag, 45auto, The 22, 380 & 303 Brit will wait till next time. Last time I tried the 303 this new shoulder threw me an ass beatin real fast???

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What happended to JC?

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I have no insight. He's gone, every man's got his limits. I don't know what pushed John past his.

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Alright then

Alright then.

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He sent me a PM and I just read it around a week late. I've been busy as hell and haven't really spent anytime on line in a while.

I'll see about giving him a phone call and see whats up tomorrow in the afternoon.

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
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I don't reckon I could sit for more than a half hour before I got bored. How is the shoulder? Ticker? Better half?

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Vaq

Yea it sucks, my guns all start screaming when they see me coming
"Oh No, Don't take us apart again" & my guitar is not much better LMAO.
Shoulder is doing good, still a work in progress, Heart & blood clot deal are OK. Off of all the thinners now. Well Amigo, I have to get, need to get some paperwork done.
Take Care & Be Safe Amigo...P-S, You still owe me an Email you old brush popper you. LOL

Any day above dirt is a good day!!! My New Motto: Where Do I Sign? (Oh yes I would)
3 years 19 weeks ago, 8:35 PM

Vaquero

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Adios Amigo

You heard from me more recent than my own mother.
(NOW) lol. Take care my friend.

The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth!
3 years 19 weeks ago, 8:52 PM

Ishootdaily

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Well Nutter Fluff

I guess something happened and I don't have a clue....

teach me to let life stand front and center...

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 19 weeks ago, 8:57 PM

Vaquero

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isd

I was here and don't have a clue. Let me know if you hear from John. Thanks.

The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth!
3 years 19 weeks ago, 9:02 PM

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Vaq, will do

I have to dig around and see if I can find his number. If not I can run his name up at the range and get it I think.

I needed to let him know I picked up 6 different Cowboy holster patterns too so I can throw one together for his single 6.

I just finished up an IWB J frame and an IWB G 26, tomorrow I am doing an inside the pocket J frame and then I have to ship some things.

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 19 weeks ago, 9:04 PM

Vaquero

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Good night America

I'm done. Over and out.

The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth!
3 years 19 weeks ago, 9:10 PM

Ishootdaily

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Night Vaq, be safe!

..

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 19 weeks ago, 9:40 PM

Anonymous

Bye Vaquero

night night.

3 years 19 weeks ago, 9:55 PM

Ishootdaily

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Night ya'll

I've got a long day coming up...

be safe

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 19 weeks ago, 9:39 AM

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JLC

he requested that his account be deleted. I sent him a PM saying that it would be a permanent deletion. After for a few hours with no response, I went ahead and granted his request. All of his comments will still be visible, but the author will say "anonymous". I'm not sure why he decided to go.

"Proelium Comminus Auctoritate" "Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."
3 years 19 weeks ago, 12:31 PM

tallguy007

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sorry

you were left to do that reaper hope he comes back nice guy just might need some time to fix things in life like we all do..........TY

DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR
3 years 19 weeks ago, 7:16 AM

Saint J.M. Browning

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That was weird. I have no idea why he decided that. If nothing else, he could have just not come to the site and left his account open in case he changed his mind.

"I don't think Hank done it this way" - Waylon

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