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3 years 35 weeks ago, 6:17 PM

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saw a news report last nite on pbs,need to know i think was the name of the news program.they were talking about obama,and how there is debate over his citizenship,and legality of his presidency.the reporter stated that many americans are disgusted with the issue of his citizenship being brought up,he went on to explain why the founders made a law that says you must be a natural born citizen to serve as president.this is easy to understand,we had just broken away from england,and the idea is to keep american power under the rule of americans.the reporter explained that aparently some person or another had written a letter to a prince of prussia inquiring as to his intentions to buy political power in america and run as president.i had never heard this story,but am not suprised.according to this report they made the natural born citizen law to specificly stop this from happening,the reporter went on to say somthing to the effect of "in todays world with everything going on blablabla yadayadayada i for one would risk the possibility of a political takeover by prussia" WTF????????i know i wont hear any argument from anyone here on this site when i say that is illegal,and un american.who thinks this would be ok besides people with an interest in removing power from americans?if this was to happen we all know what comes next is,hey as long as were changing laws lets remove the peoples right to assembly,free speech,life liberty and the persuit of happiness!!!!!!

I found it...here ya go guys watch this bullshit! http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/culture/jon-meacham-allow-non-nativ...
i dont know all the areas this aired,but i think we should all wright pbs,and need to know.if you choose to send them a letter lets please wright articulately and rationaly.no opinions on obama himself or even our belifes as to his presidential legitimacy.all they need to know is that we belive that changing this or any other part of the constitution is wrong,illegal,anti american,and dangerous to the security of our country.

artcle 2 section 1 states that
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

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3 years 35 weeks ago, 6:43 PM

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Jay Sedler

I support the constitution,I agree with the Natural Born Idea. America should be controlled by Americans. "We The People" that are born Americans should have the right to run for Presidential office. Anyone who is not a natural born U.S. Citizen should not even attempt to run for Presidential office. Buying Political Power in my view should be if not already UNCONSTITUTIONAL. And any attempt to buy American Political Power Should be met with severe consequences. The prince of Prussia should wait till his turn to rule the Prussians and not worry about American Politics.

I hope this is what you meant cause I am not a politician so my political skills are below amateur levels.

To Quote Abe Lincoln "...government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

America is a government of the people by the people for the people. No foreign leaders should even think of taking America over.

Is this what your talking about Jay?

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3 years 35 weeks ago, 12:02 PM

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ya thats more or less what i was gettin at,not worried about any one power or group getting power,just worried about america losing it.

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3 years 35 weeks ago, 7:20 PM

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Oh shit!

Jay said, (and I copy and paste) "i dont know all the areas this aired,but i think we should all wright pbs,and need to know.if you choose to send them a letter lets please wright articulately and rationaly."

OK guys, I aint Schuyler, but let's practice some grammar and spelling if we are going to get political. That goes double if you are going to contact an elected official.
Thanks.

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3 years 35 weeks ago, 8:43 PM

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On the subject of letting non natives run for president,
in response to the report by Mr Meacham I had the displeasure of witnessing last night.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/culture/jon-meacham-allow-non-nativ...

The opinion in this report is anti American in nature,and unconstitutional.If we were to let non natives run we would be opening the doors to disaster, if a person with political interest in harming our nation got into the presidency they would have knowledge of top secret files,and control of much of the power,and information this country depends upon.I have nothing to say on the topic of Obama as president,simply that the last thing America needs is another way for foreign powers and terrorists to attack us.This report sickens me,it is irresponsible reporting at best.If the need for a reasonable measure of military,political,and economic safety is an outdated idea,then surly the right to peaceful assembly,freedom of religion, freedom of speech,and freedom of the press that you depend on every day must also be outdated ideas.I suppose it goes without saying that the right to keep and bear arms must be outdated as well,after all when was the last time we fought a war on our soil right?You have lost my trust as a reliable,safe source of information based on this one issue.As the saying goes,"one bad apple spoils the whole barrel"I suggest you think more about facts,and less about political agendas while doing your reporting from now on.

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JOHN J. SEDLER V

Hows that vaquero?im not a particularly good writer (have trouble with comas and such) but i hope this is good enough.anyone interested in sending them a whatfor,here is a link http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/contact/

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3 years 35 weeks ago, 8:13 PM

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I give up

ya'll go for it.

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3 years 35 weeks ago, 8:45 PM

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whats the problem?my letter was spell checked. it is better in my opinion to spell poorly and say something,than to spell well and say nothing anyway.am i wrong?am i missing the point completely?im not trying to be disagreeable or start an argument,so if you have somthing to say please just say it.

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3 years 35 weeks ago, 9:03 PM

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I apologise for the attitude.
I just re-read the posts and you are right.
I suppose I stuck my nose where it didn't belong.

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3 years 35 weeks ago, 10:52 PM

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any comments are welcome.like i said,i wasnt tryin to argue,just didnt understand what you were getin at.no apology needed.

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3 years 35 weeks ago, 9:28 PM

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How about this one

After viewing John Meacham's piece on amending the Constitution of the United States to allow "non-native born" individuals to run for the office of President. Personally, I am appalled that ANYONE would even consider this. I am an American. Native born, and I will NEVER support such an amendment. The Yale professor quoted by Mr. Meacham or Mr. Meacham himself are not disclosing the complete story of the "Native-born" clause. The clause was in fact put in the Constitution because we were still a new country. However, at the time there were many (former) Colonists who had not been born here and many of whom still considered themselves subjects of the British Crown. There was, as reported, a fear that some European nobleman would come to the United States and claim it as his fiefdom. That possibility still exists today!

If you don't believe me, look at Germany in the 1930's. Hitler was not a "native-born" German. He was an Austrian. He was elected to a political office that was in the successor line to the head of state for Germany. He either bullied, or murdered his way to the top spot and became a dictator. What is to stop a "non-native born" person from doing something like that here should he gain the Presidency? No, I don't agree with Mr. Meacham's idea that we should amend the Constitution to allow non-native born people to become either President, or Vice-President. In fact I believe that we should amend the Constitution to include the Speaker of the House, and even President Pro Tempore and Secretary of State. His very indication that we should adopt such an amendment makes me wonder if he is a native-born citizen or a naturalized citizen or even perhaps a resident alien who would himself like to take on the Presidency.

I was not born a subject of any European, Middle Eastern, or even an Asiatic crown and I will defend my rights as granted to me by God, and the Constitution of the United States. I served in the United States Navy and I took an oath to "Protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic..." I will continue to defend that Constitution and I will do anything within my power to be sure that such a Constitutional Amendment NEVER passes.

Another PROUD AMERICAN

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3 years 35 weeks ago, 9:39 PM

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nice randy!hope lots of people send them letters like these.im going to post a link on my facebook and myspace too.im really angry at meacham,and even more angry that the editors let him get away with that.you should read some of the bs that supporters of the idea wrote on need to knows web page.just plain ignorant.

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3 years 35 weeks ago, 9:52 PM

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Jon Meacham

Is nothing more than an enabler seeking notoriety for anything he can get it from,
being is no different than the guy who first suggested changing it so Arnold could run.

I won't even give it more effort or time than that.

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 35 weeks ago, 10:07 PM

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Jay,

There is a reason that I RARELY watch PBS. I learned several years ago that PBS supported the Libs. I have even seen a few programs where they actually bullied a conservative politician. About the only national news that I will watch is Fox News. I will click over to CNN or HN or something like that if something major is going on that is "Breaking News" and in my opinion could impact the current state of the union.

In my opinion, PBS should, in fact be, PBS of the Democratic Party! PBS as an organization receives something like 80% of their funding from the U. S. Government. They are, and have been for some time, in bed with the Libs. I truely believe that PBS is where the Liberal bias that we seen in the majority of today's "main stream" media began.

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3 years 35 weeks ago, 11:14 PM

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quite likly

i wach pbs because im a poor bastard that only has that new digital transmitted tv bs.pbs often has good history and travel shows so thats what i usually watch.i havent noticed anything to liberal till last night,and i dont even consider that really liberal,its more like totaly fucking retarded.ive all but tuned out the general anti gun anti libertarian,liberal.media machine so i never really noticed pbs before.ill be watching their shows with a closer eye from now on.

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3 years 35 weeks ago, 2:38 PM

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Jay, I stopped watching PBS for the most part when I noticed them trying to start arguements with conservative polititians rather than debate issues. They would pick an issue to "debate" then the only debate that really took place was their attacks on the conservative's points of view, rarely giving him or her a chance to get more than one or two words out. One of those that they did this with, and I'm not a fan of his either, was John McCain. I watched him sit there and smile and start to make a comment when someone else would interrupt and belittle not just him but all the conservatives. I have a great deal of respect for McCain, though I'm not particularly fond of some of his politics. He was an Admiral's son flying (I think) Corsairs in Viet Nam. He was shot down and taken to the "Hanoi Hilton" where he endured a good bit of torture. When it was learned that he was in fact an Admiral's son, the North tried to trade him for something (or someone) and he nixed the deal saying that he would not leave unless all of his fellow prisoners were also allowed to leave. I'm not sure which show it was that they were on, it may have been something with Jim Lehear (spelling is wrong there), but I remember that there were like two or three journalists, a Democrat, and McCain. McCain didn't stand a snowball's chance as he was the ONLY conservative in the group. And if you check on his record, he's really not that conservative. He is more central than most of the "hardline" conservatives. I think that he needs to rethink his position and be more hardline than he has been in the past. But that is just my opinion.

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