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5 years 17 weeks ago, 12:23 PM

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my laptop, everytime im surfing the net, keeps shutting itself off, all of a sudden a blue screen pops up and says something like it has to shut itself down, it says so much when the blue screen pops up but i cant read it cuz it only takes a second til it completely restarts itself.

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 12:27 PM

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raffy computer problem

a blue screen either means your memory is bad or there is an application that has a gliche. when the app causes a glitch windows will either terminate that application, lock up, or cuase the laptop to restart. did you load any new software or hardware devices?

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 12:34 PM

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just a couple

just a couple of videos, i only have 12 videos on my laptop, is there anyway too clean up my pc memory without deleting my files?

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 12:38 PM

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ok, go to www.download.com there, search for adware 2008. download it, install it and check for updates. then run a full scan on your computer. this will delete all junk, temp, cookies, adware and spyware on your computer. if it still does it after that. try to copy what the screen says(at least some of it) and let me know what it says. it's rare, but if it did not solve the problem, your physical memory in the laptop may need to be replaced. let me know chase_bryan@hotmail.com if i am not on here

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 12:44 PM

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thanks coldfront

alright man thanks, im on it right now, btw i noticed in your profile you have pictures and descriptions of your guns, like the jimenez ja 22, and your hi point firearms, how did you do that? lol

thanks again btw, us southerners gotta stick together lol

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 12:52 PM

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lol yes we do have to stick together. you want to know how i put the pictures up or how i modded the hipoints? to put pics up, in the top right hand corner of the site, you would see your screenname, create, settings, and help. click on create and the pictures and you can upload your favorite pics or videos. you ever need any help dont hesitate to ask.

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 12:58 PM

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thanks man

i just uploaded a pic of one of my boomsticks, i may upload a pic of my rottweiler later, and my pistols.

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 1:01 PM

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Hardware or software

The first thing you need to do is determine whether this is a hardware or a software problem. You don't want to be chasing after one issue when it is the other. You don't say much about your broswer or OS, but there's one way to help figure it out. I'm going to guess that you are using Windows XP and IE7 just because they are the most common right now.

You absolutely must ensure that you are up-to-date with all software patches. Goto Tools-Windows Update and make sure you are current. There have been a lot of patches recently and many have to do with security--including a new patch released just yesterday. If you're not in the habit of updating this may take awhile. Patches are released on the second Tuesday of every month. The Service Packs are especially important. They basically re-install the entire operating system over time.

If this is a software issue, being up-to-date is the surest way to get rid of it. These patches replace a lot of code in Windows and IE7, so hopefully they will take care of what ails. Hopefully you can keep the machine running long enough to get these patches installed.

Now, go get Mozilla at http://www.mozilla.org/ and use that as your browser. Lots of people think this is s superior browser. (I don't, but that's not the point.) If your computer still locks up while browsing, it's most likely a hardware issue. You've done nearly all you can to circumvent the software unless you want to buy some diagnostic software such as Norton to test all the components. Problem is lots of failures are intermittent so they don't show up on tests.

Memory is the easiest to replace. All you do is replace the memory card in your computer with a new one. Memory isn't all that expensive these days, so it's a relatively cheap way to try to fix it. Memory is a hardware issue. You can't 'clean it up' if it's broken. You replace it.

If you still have problems, Compaq Presarios are about $500 and perfectly adequate for any but to most graphic intensive applications (such as games). Taking it into a shop is going to get expensive pretty fast and it's not worth it.

One more thing. It kinda sounds like you're heating up (which points to hardware) Laptops can get really hot. Heat expands. Stuff breaks down. I use a Quadcooler (www.quadcooler.com) underneath the laptop. This can go a long way to keeping components cool. The laptop's own fan can't really keep up. Added bonus: Your 'lap' stays cooler, too.

Backup anything you want to keep right now. Once it blows it's going to be tough to get stuff back. I backup on the little usb thumb drives, which are also pretty cheap. If you have a read/write CD/DVD player you can use that, of course.

Hope this helps. I'm a retired IT guy, but a little behind. I did this stufffor 30 years.

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 1:05 PM

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I had the fan go out on my HP laptop, un-beknownst to me. It destroyed that laptop. Heat is your enemy.

5 years 17 weeks ago, 1:22 PM

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windows updates are

windows updates are unneccesary and most of the time the cause of new problems ie.. explorer 7 has many know compatibility issues with online software applicatons. the only updates i suggest are the hardware updates and internet explorer updates if needed. if it was a heatsink or fan you would get a black screen with a thermal error thermal error after it restarts. i do agree with the firefox download though and buying a new laptop is an absolutely last resort if you can replace memory or do a recovery

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 1:53 PM

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hey coldfront

i downloaded adaware 2008 and i also have norton 360, do i need to have both or can i delete norton 360 cuz adaware can do its job.

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 1:56 PM

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Well I'll tell ya

when I left my last job I had 500 windows computers and about 50 servers. They all had all the updates. Only one time did I have issues with updates 'causing problems.' This with a very esoteric, expensive, and unique piece of software on a server. And I'm talking about going from Windows 286/386 to Vista over time and DOS 1.X to 6.0 before that. (Obviously, lots of new CPUs, too.) One of the unfortunate facts about Windows is that there are numerous security vulnerabilities. If you don't keep up, you're playing with fire. No one should skip updates--especially if you're not familiar with the issues.

You are far more likely to have issues with third-party software that purports to 'fix your registry' or crap like that that does not need doing. I agree that using adaware (sparingly) is a good thing, and certainly you need a firewall of some sort.

Everyone here knows more about firearms than I do. I will listen to your advice carefully. But as far as computers go I will take my own counsel. I started working with computers in 1972 on the same CDC 6000 that Bill Gates used as a teenager. (Of course, I've become much more famous and wealthy than he has!) That's when the computer guys wore white coats and you wrote programs on punch cards. I've used and abused Linux, Solaris, HP-UX, CP/M and every DOS and Windows version that ever was as well as stuff you've never heard of: ZOPL, Ugli, and Hugo. My entire career was spent in IT, longer than most people here have been alive ('cept old farts like greasy and SamD) My accounting programs handled over $1 billion in expenditures, just as one example.

Computers and softwre are kinda like religion, so I understand there are different points of view. But this isn't slashdot. If you don't want to take my advice, fine. It's not really my problem. I was trying to be helpful. I don't intend to get into an argument here, so last post from me on this topic. By all means, do whatever you want to.

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 2:12 PM

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damn greasy

did he just call you old? ouch!

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 2:07 PM

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thanks for replying to my posts, but who was arguing with you bro? im not gonna lie you are very helpful but some of the stuff you said i couldnt understand, im using a 5 year old gateway laptop that my wife used back in college, she aint no computer wiz neither.

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 2:20 PM

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why is it older techs always get krotchity??? i have been a tech for 18 years and still take as much advice i can get without getting pissy.

(currently lead consultant for school districts in my entire county, and self employed computer security analyst and network consultant) want to get out of it because COMPUTERS SUCK and now moving over to armed security because GUNS are good mmmkay?

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 2:23 PM

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Guns are good

Amen!, im currently a security personnel in middle tennessee working on camera surveillance, im thinking of becoming an armored vehicle guard.

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 3:08 PM

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I can't seem to get a picture to show up where my empty head is over there on the left. I got most of the other stuff figured out though I think.

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 3:42 PM

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To answer your question, older techs tend to have been there, done that, and seen everything several times over. Patterns tend to repeat and it's not until you've been around awhile that you even see the patterns. That's why age and treachery trump youth and beauty. So when someone comes along and starts spouting mythology and opinion for fact, we tend to turn a jaundiced eye to these so-called 'truths,' which to our mind are made up out of whole cloth. That’s why, in IT as well as other fields, there has evolved a system of ‘Best Practices.’ Best Practices are a set of rules that help protect both the organization and the employee. If you as an employee can show that you have followed the organization’s (indeed, the industry’s) Best Practices, then you are much less likely to take the fall when something goes wrong. “Hey, I did everything in this here book and it still went FUBAR. Not my fault.” You'd have a good case.

What are Best Practices? For example, a backup schedule that protects a firm’s data assets and allows for a quick recovery. This includes backup tapes or other media stored off-site in a recognized and published father/grandfather scheme as well as multiple servers for critical applications, RAID arrays, and redundancy at every level, including Internet feeds. A list of Best Practices could fill a volume, depending on industry. For a police officer, it might be a Glock on his hip and another one in his pocket in case someone gets the first gun away from him. Once again, redundancy and backup in critical applications in ways that have been found over time and trial and error to be Best Practices.

When a security firm is hired to audit an IT department, they use their list of Best Practices as they explore the network. I absolutely double-damn guarantee you without a shadow of a doubt that critical updates are part of that scrutiny. If you aren’t doing it, you will have a ‘finding’ in the Final Report. (Note: Findings are Not Good. Findings must be 'addressed.') Of course, maybe you've never been through one.

Over the years in my field I designed several networks, found the funding, and built out the system. These things cost over a million bucks apiece. I hired ‘Techs’ (as you call them) to help with the easy stuff. I got tired of crawling under the crawlspaces and in the rafters, so basically I tied an Ethernet cable to a Tech’s foot and promised him a Happy Meal if he made it to the other side. (That actually happened. It was the Tech’s kid, who was smaller. Same rule applies.) Now I respect a Tech’s competence. That and a good customer service attitude will get him promoted.

However, in the hiring process. If I asked the question, “What do you think about applying updates to Windows? Isn’t that kind of a pain in the butt? Don’t they cause more problems than it’s worth? How would you do it?” If I got the answer above, that person would never be hired. I would smile sweetly, reply, 'Thank you very much." and show the guy the door. Not only that, I maintain that no professional IT department in the country would accept that answer. If, indeed, you had that attitude, you’d have to keep it to yourself, then perhaps implement your own personal philosophy by subterfuge. Of course, if the machines under your charge were compromised as a result of this ineptitude, you’d be out the door in a flash. So, you take your chances. If I were a Tech and my boss told me to ignore updates, I'd ask for the direction in writing, signed, and specifically acknowledging my advice to the contrary, and with witnesses, if possible. You can get pretty far in life with hubris alone, but eventually it's going to get ya!

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 3:47 PM

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wow, you like to see

wow, you like to see yourself type huh?

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 3:54 PM

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cold front

Schuyler makes some very valid points. Heed old age & treachery for it shall come to bear.

5 years 17 weeks ago, 4:13 PM

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I see your point and like stated previously, I have no problem with taken advice. as a matter of fact I look for advice. however, I got where i am today by hands-on and handed down advice. also how that information is relayed to the customer and applied. I dont overdose a situation with unneccesary solutions when they are not needed. you also have to take into consideration that not everyone is technologically advanced ( if that was the case I wouldnt have a job) and cannot throw terminology at them that they do not understand. this just confuses and intimidates them. but the biggest thing is, dont be arrogant.. you can be the smartest or the dumbest, either way arrogance gets you nowhere real quick

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 4:23 PM

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fixing software glitches. Not written in laymans terminology. I hate to date myself, but in College I took a Programming Course, we had to wire the boards...

5 years 17 weeks ago, 4:31 PM

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I think that would be cool to do. wiring the boards and placing the chips and what not..

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 4:45 PM

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Chips like with salsa?

I think it had vacuum tubes. 1965? It took up a room the size of my current house and we had to key punch cards. Enough said it was my last computer course. My first program worked, some kind of sorting scheme, then never another one that worked. MyProf was nice and gave me a B something, I think. But only if I promised to never come around his computer again. I have more memory in my HP12C a handheld Bus calculator than that big main frame did.

5 years 17 weeks ago, 4:56 PM

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i remeber hearing about the punch card days. i got involved when you had a big floppy disk that you stored info on, Tandy I believe.? Yeah it;s crazy in such a little time how far computers have come. like when a 500 meg hard drive was the coolest thing. now some programs are a gig or bigger.

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