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4 years 20 weeks ago, 10:45 PM

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AR-15 break in

GP I have read some stuff about breaking in he barrel of the AR. What is your opinion on a "Proper" method, and the right materials to use (cleaners and lubes)

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4 years 20 weeks ago, 11:34 PM

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the shit to use is Hoppes #9

shoot 5 then clean
shoot 5 then clean
shhot 5 then clean
shoot 5 then clean
shoot 5 then clean

for the above shoot then wait 1 minute to allow the barrel to cool down a bit.It takes time but I have "broke in"'"seasoned" alot of rifles this way and have not had any accuracy issues later on.

at the 50 round mark move it up to shoot 10 then clean.after 50 rounds.

at the 100 round mark shoot 20 then clean until you have reached 500 rounds,at this point the barrel is plenty broke in/seasoned.treat it as you would treat any firearm barrel.

4 years 20 weeks ago, 6:31 PM

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GP, that's why you are the man! I only have (so far) 300 rounds? Gotta go get some more!! Also, is it unreasonable to expect any kind of accuracy during this break in period? Should I be worried about the accuracy? Should I just get thru it following your instructions and THEN worry about accuracy? I saw some stuff on the MidwayUSA website that is supposed to be the best at getting rid of copper. I don't want to do any damage to my barrel obviously.

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4 years 19 weeks ago, 9:36 PM

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There are alot of wive's tales about breaking in weapons and barrels... The reality in my humble honest opinion is that you run 100-200 rounds through and then clean the weapon well.

There does not seem to be any factual data to support any need for the old shoot and lube theory of break ins... In fact it is in my opinion a complete waste of time.

But of course, what do I know... I have only build 1000+ AR's and sold thousands more.... I believe my round count is over 100,000 through the M16 and AR platform weapons....

Go shoot and have fun...

Clean well when you are done and you will be fine...

Just remember to stay away from wolf or other steel cased ammo in ANY AR rifle other than a POF or barrell with a 70 rockwell hardness....

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4 years 19 weeks ago, 3:50 AM

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agree with TLtactical, I've fired thousands of rounds out of the AR-15/M16 platform as well, never had a problem, cleaned after I was done. And wive's tales about breaking in barrels is about all it is. Talk with someone who knows, has been around, and fired the type weapon your asking about to get a better idea about facts instead of wive's tales. Just my opinion.

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4 years 19 weeks ago, 7:23 AM

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You are is Saskatchewan? I got married in calgary Alberta to a girl from Manitoba... We drove through your province to visit her family....

You can have guns like AR's there?

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4 years 19 weeks ago, 7:28 AM

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Military/ law enforcement only, civilians cannot own these type weapons. Liberal in the house took that right away.

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4 years 18 weeks ago, 11:37 AM

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So are you military of law enforcement then?

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4 years 18 weeks ago, 12:14 PM

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TL neither I have friends in Alabama, travel down every year and head to the range.

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4 years 18 weeks ago, 9:21 AM

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breakin procedure.

Just shoot it, and that's all there really is to it. More harm than good is ever done by cleaning the barrel. Most shooters only clean when a noticeable drop off in accuracy develops. For most SS custom tubes it seems to be around 500 rnds. For my factory Remington tube it happens to be around 200 rnds.

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4 years 17 weeks ago, 10:43 AM

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4 years 17 weeks ago, 6:31 PM

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I carried the M-16 we called it a (GAU) Ground Assault Unit for 10 years in the A.F. while in SAC. I never used anything but Break Free on it. I would break it down, clean it, air blast it, to dry it, wipe it off, use a small amount of Break Free to lube, then turn it in. Take a few hundred rounds and fire the dam thing. If it jams figure out the problem, most likely the mags. If you do not have a problem don't worry about it. The comment about Wolf ammo is factual. Due to the heat it does not eject but sticks in the chamber. Once you find that the gun functions, get some plastic dummy round and mix them in with your ammo and learn to clear jams. You can buy a military cleaning kit and patches and have the best stuff at a cheep price to clean it with. After you have done all that and want the military inspection put on a pair of white gloves and if they are not bright white when you feel around parts and inside the firearm then clean again. This was completed each and every time we came back from the range and random at other times.

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4 years 17 weeks ago, 6:40 PM

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4 years 17 weeks ago, 7:11 PM

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No, I have been out for 23 years. My son was in got out and I think he went back in. He is a combat medic. I got out, became a cop, rose to Chief, and quit. I have been working as a private detective for the past 17 years. I work criminal cases. I enjoy investigative work. Specialize in many areas to include homicides. I used to be a power lifter in the 80's and can still bench over 300 pounds. So people tend to be nice to me. Most people say I still look like a cop, even when I have shorts on. What do you do.

P.S. I wanted to buy that Charter Arms but no one ever e-mails me back. That is how I found the site.

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4 years 17 weeks ago, 7:17 PM

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4 years 17 weeks ago, 7:34 PM

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The one that I am looking for is the older model made between the 60's and 70's 16oz. Back when the plant was still in Mass. I am not looking for it to carry it, but to collect it. I have a number of older 38's going back to the 1920's. All airweights. Colt, Rossi, and S@W. I try to collect things that are not popular The Charter is a nice gun but a cheap one. Some of the prices people are asking are for over 200 and they just are not worth much more. Five shot J-frames are coming back, but the prices are going down. The "I think I am going to lose my gun rights" people brought out a lot of gun buyers with little or no means to afford them. People do not have money for oil or gas and they are selling them now. I have four friends that own pawn shops and they are getting great deals. Picking up guns for a 1/4 of the price. In fact I was in a shop and was able to get a new Charter Arms for 100. But I do not collect this and traded it in and was given 200 for it on a trade a week later. That is nuts. But thanks for the info.

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4 years 17 weeks ago, 7:41 PM

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Vic back in the day

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It was just too hard to handle
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That was some gun
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4 years 16 weeks ago, 5:26 PM

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44 Bull dog

I once fired a bulldog that was re-worked by a gun smith and it was easy and smooth to shoot. But I was in NY back when the son of sam was killing people and just cant get that idiot out of my mind when I think of that gun. So the van sounds nice.

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