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4 years 34 weeks ago, 11:19 AM

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I know the basic rules about starting w/ a virgin lower receiver and have a ATF letter of clarification to that effect. In the past I have started w/ a bare receiver then as time & money permits, add the lower kit & then an upper. This time I have purchased some receivers that are factory assembled as complete lowers & the stock installed. Are they disqualified from becoming a pistol even they have never been fully assembled as either?

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4 years 34 weeks ago, 12:30 PM

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Thats way beyond my paygrade, and the whole AOW thing is confusing.. ive got a couple of numbers from companys that you might already do business with.. they sell the stuff, so might (should) know, and at the least could source you to who would know.. My thought is the LAST place i would call on this is BATFE..

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4 years 34 weeks ago, 12:54 PM

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as always, double check any info you get on this site. I'm no expert on the subject either, but as I understand it, as soon as the buttstock is taken off, its considered a pistol, no matter if it was previously assembled or not. I would assume you could buy a fully assembled lower group with buttstock and all, then remove the buttstock. After you add an upper of any length it would still fall in the pistol catagory. Nitris, HKhandgunr and a few others may know more.

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4 years 34 weeks ago, 1:01 PM

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now that i'm thinking about it... I remember reading somewhere (possibly sun devil's site???) that you can turn a lower marked "pistol" into a rifle, but not the other way around. I'm not sure if it has to be marked though. I may have been wrong in my first post. Sorry, I probably just added to the confusion.

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4 years 34 weeks ago, 1:36 PM

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When you order you must order a pistol receiver, you can turn a pistol to a SBR or a rifle but not a rifle to a pistol. YOU MUST have a receiver that was order as a pistol NOT rifle. It doesn't have to have pistol written on it, just ordered as such.

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 8:06 PM

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OK guys. Thanks for all the input. I am probably screwed w/ this purchase. No problem. My dealer, when I bought 5 AK bare receivers a few years ago, refused to mark them as anything other than rifle. That's OK - he owns the place! What I did was get a letter of clarification from the BATF and a letter from nodakspud referencing my s/n's and saying that these were virgin receivers and never a part of any firearm. This time, I probably can't get this from the dealer that sold the ARs to me. He wasn't that actual mfgr like the AKs. I'm too old for jail so I'll won't push this issue. Once again, thanks for the response.

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