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I've decided that after I get some night sights for my G20 this week, my next gun purchase will be a quad rail for my bushy M4 16" bbl. The Desert TAC 870 will have to wait a little longer. Any suggestions for a good rail?

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4 years 47 weeks ago, 4:14 PM

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All I've ever used is Knight's. That CAA and Tapco seem cheap and flimsy, but I don't know

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not sure yet, just feeling things out. I'm just looking round online for the best deals right now. I do want a good value without dropping a ton, but dont want to buy a P.O.S either.

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4 years 47 weeks ago, 4:29 PM

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I bought

a UTG from opitcs planet for $62.90. It's a little heavy but fits perfectly. I think most of the weight is from the rubber hand guards, but the rails don't really hurt my hands so I keep them off most of the time. It was a good purchase.

4 years 47 weeks ago, 7:04 PM

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I was also thinking

about ditching this fixed front sight for a flip up, which means I'll need a gas block of some sort. They make rail blocks, right?

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4 years 47 weeks ago, 7:12 PM

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Why would you do that?

Yeah, flip up front sight looks cool, and if the gun is a plinker/range toy, then go for it. But if it a gun you may use against targets who shoot back, keep the fixed front sight, because trying to pop up a front and rear if your optic goes down is an awful time consuming thing and takes the weapon off target.

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4 years 47 weeks ago, 6:09 AM

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http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/Categories.bok?category=Iron+S... have rails too.

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4 years 46 weeks ago, 4:19 PM

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Thanks. I really like La Rue. I'm thinking about going a little cheaper on the flip up sights since they will be back ups, and that will allow me to get a better handguard rail. Right now, I'm looking at Magpul's flip up sights that I can get at SGC for $39 a piece. For the rail, I like La Rue's 11" tactical handguard rail, which allows me to fit a low pro gas block underneath it. Eventually, I would like a Troy industries modular grip and surefire light. I'm still looking around but thats what I'm leaning towards right now.

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4 years 46 weeks ago, 9:00 PM

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that's a good price on the sights,i am just trying to put an AR package together myself,i am going with an ACOG as well http://trijicon.com/user/parts/products1.cfm?PartID=747&back_row=0&categ... BCM upper in 5.56 and leaning toward a NYH lower,but not totally decided,little more shopping to do,and i'd appreciate any input,i have a looked at a ton of AR stuff,now to shave the $$$,but the ACOG is not what i'm skimping on.

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4 years 46 weeks ago, 9:08 PM

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I don't think there's such thing as skimping on an ACOG. Those things will set you back! I have the 2x with red crosshair reticle. I've checked out the amber and green reticles and the red shows up a lot better. Anyway you won't be disappointed, and you'll never have to worry about batteries.

I've been looking into building one myself, but it'll have to wait a bit. I still need to fix my bushmaster up and pick up another shotty first. What kind of barrel are you looking at? Whats the price difference between chrome lined and not?

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4 years 46 weeks ago, 9:16 PM

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check this out

there are SO MANY options http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/ i'm only going to put together this one( so i told the wife) go to upper receivers and check them out

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4 years 46 weeks ago, 9:22 PM

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which one do you like? I found a couple that I would like to use someday also!

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4 years 46 weeks ago, 9:34 PM

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http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=BCM%2DURG%... i put up a picture to

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4 years 47 weeks ago, 7:14 PM

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yeah reap

WTF !!!!

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4 years 47 weeks ago, 7:17 PM

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I see your point

but it's in the field of view in my ACOG. It doesn't obstruct the reticle, but I can still see it and it bugs me. The ACOG won't go down either because its not battery powered. It would have to crack or break to go down. Just entertaining the thought. The rail will be first

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4 years 47 weeks ago, 7:18 PM

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ok reap

I forgive you

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Just as my Aimpoint won't go down because I change the batteries fairly regularly. But if it does, It's good to have only a few things to do to get the sights back up. I've even tried keeping the rear sight flipped up so I wouldn't have to do anything, but that was just too much clutter

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until we get the picture.
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We didn't i just wanted to give runs a woody.. Im thinking this is the longest its let me stay on, so maybe i got it fixed.. Did get the shingles replaced, all joking aside, your not supposed to me fart'n around on a roof when your in your sixtys, especially with a bad back and snow on the roof.. Had a neighbor who helped and at least no water damage.
Actually miss the pupps.. Gave them back last wed when we went down to the docs (that whole thing is looking good) .. Hows your operation coming along.. are they going to do it or not..
I know im rambing (as opposed to my normal well composed thoughtful comments) but im afraid i'll get booted before i can get this stuff out so just sorta spewing.. I've been reading while the computer was down.. anybody read an author C.J. Box. he writes a series (think 12 in all) of outdoor adventure/detective novels, Characters name is Joe Pickett (i know, not real original huh) well old Joe is a wyoming game warden, and pretty neat character. beautiful discriptive of the country, pro hunting, and in this liberal arena he had like 5 pages of top notch revues from authors everyone has heard of.
Check him out if you havent..

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and the ladder blew over, long way down. Nearest neighbor 8th of a mile away. Dirt road in the middle of nowhere. I jumped. Broke nothing. I tie the ladder in place now, young kids don't think that far ahead, dumbasses.

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This is to funny, ive spent the past two days telling her our move was a "mutual" decision.. Which of course it was...but the lovely Mrs Edwards is not buying it.. "we just moved here so you could live in the mountains, and stay away from people"... well.....yeah... but shes sorta forgetting that she fell in love with it to. The weather can be a bit intemadating, were in the clouds and when those puppys start racing by it makes you appreciate old ma nature.. Lot of beautiful snow right now, which is covering up a lot of DEEP mud.. Neither of the trucks are 4w drive....cause im a dumb shit... but the duramax is limited slip, so i can get thru.. Hey... lets get some steroids and bulk up, we could get into wrestling.. Telling you the world is ready for a couple of bulked up geezers.. i could beat the way outa them with my crutches.. and you could run em over with your "hover round".. ty it into a promotion for the gadget you wear and push if you fall...

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move to the country. I am loving the paved roads in town. I can drive my '78 Chevy without worrying about dust and mud getting into the works. When we get moved I'll only be able to drive it under ideal conditions like no mud, enough moisture to keep dust down. Maybe once or twice a year ;<(
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Sorry G is not a thrilled mountain dweller, some are, some aren't. Just give plenty of snuggle time, maybe it'll help melt the ice :<)
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You serious, you have a big 3000 in the garage, Man im still stuck in the era of C and D jags and gullwing mercedes..Don't happen to have an old Morgan plus 4 in there do you..

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my first was a 63 BJ7 4 seat. This one is a 1960 BN7 2 seat. Now, my first one I bought in Honolulu, frame & floors were good but some termites in fenders and rockers. Ran like a striped assed ape.
EX that is EX wife conned me into selling it. She's the same one that talked me into selling our house in Hawai'i, now you know why she is EX in capital letters!
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4 years 46 weeks ago, 9:42 AM

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I just ordered the La Rue 12" handguard and 3/4" low pro gas block. Looking into getting the flip up sights, modular grip and light next. It may be a bit before I get those.

http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/catalog/P1011878.JPG

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4 years 46 weeks ago, 2:40 PM

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Reaper308 wrote:
I just ordered the La Rue 12" handguard and 3/4" low pro gas block. Looking into getting the flip up sights, modular grip and light next. It may be a bit before I get those.

http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/catalog/P1011878.JPG
so you don't have to take off the front sight post to install this handguard or do you?

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4 years 44 weeks ago, 4:31 PM

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yeah, I had to take it off cause I got the 12" rail. If I would have gone with a shorter rail I could have kept the front sight, but I didn't like it anyways. They also make longer rails that fit around the front sight. I know Daniels does. I just installed the rail last night. It fits great, no movement what so ever, true free float. I ordered a front sight, modular grip and sling mount from Troy. The grip is on back order for a couple weeks, even though I know they have one at SGC for the same price, I'm just being lazy. I'll post some pics when I get the whole thing put together. Still planning on getting a surefire too.

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4 years 46 weeks ago, 9:44 AM

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LaRue makes good stuff

I'm stuck on GG&G for most things, though. Okay, well, my Aimpoint mount and trailer hitch cover are GG&G. And my salt and pepper shakers will be soon too. They have salt and pepper shakers that look like 40mm HE rounds. Expensive, but pretty cool.

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4 years 44 weeks ago, 4:25 PM

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is your aimpoint mount a quick release? I just realized that my quick release mount for my ACOG is a GG&G.

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4 years 46 weeks ago, 9:47 AM

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Never used them. Aren't they in Tucson?

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4 years 46 weeks ago, 2:45 PM

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the front sight with any ,ajor brand of rail system. I know you don't with the Knight's armament system. The delta ring pulls down and then there's a small allen screw that sets the tension.

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Very small store front, it was awfully hard to find. They make everything from sights to sling swivels to whole upper receivers. I really like their Dominator system. Pricey, but very good quality.

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okay

i have heard that the front sight has to be removed in some instances to replace a handguard,what those instances are yet i don't know,maybe with the gas block and front sight being reworked in reapers case,

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4 years 46 weeks ago, 7:18 PM

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it depends. If you go with a 8 or 9" rail on a 16"bbl M4 for instance, it will stop just before the front sight. If you want a longer rail and want to keep the front sight, a lot of companies make longer 11, 12 and 13" rails that have cut outs for the front sight, so they fit right around it. I know Daniels makes one. If you do decide to replace the front sight you need a gas block of some kind. If you're putting the rail over the block, you'll need a low profile block. In my case, I just wanted to ditch the front sight because its in the lower field of view in my ACOG. I know I could mount the ACOG on top of the carry handle, but thats just too bulky for me. I'd rather just go with the flip ups.

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4 years 46 weeks ago, 9:21 PM

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yep

that's what i have been reading too,I'm looking ata flat top just for that reason.

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4 years 45 weeks ago, 9:55 AM

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I just received my 12" La Rue rail and gas block on my doorstep yesterday. I'll probably install them this weekend. I just have a few comments I wanted to share about my experiences with them. First off, before I ordered, I called them to see which size of gas block I needed. They were really friendly and told my exactly what I needed. After I ordered the two items, the processing only took about a day before they were shipped to my door. They kept me updated with shipment tracking. After opening the box yesterday, not only did they send me the two items that I ordered, they also sent me a nice La Rue tactical hat, a copy of the constitution, two bumper stickers (one says "extremely right wing!" and the other says "support our snipers"), a machined La Rue beer opener, and a chistmas card. I know its a little past chirstmas, but you get the point. They go over the top to make sure their customers are happy and give you more than you expect. I think that tells a lot about their company, and I like supporting companies like this (based in Austin, TX).
First impressions of the handguard rail and gas block are great. They are light, but feel very solid and high quality. The handguard was in the same price range as Knights, Daniels defense and Troy, all of which are good quality, and its engraved with their motto "live free or die". I would recommend then to anyone. I'll definately keep them in mind in the future.

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You will continue to get Christmas Cards now each year and always an opener and stickers int he packages...I know it doesn't amount to a lot of money, but like you said, they don't need to do that, so it's nice that they have chosen to do it this way. I like the company as well, a lot. I just placed another order with them today! I can't wait to get home and play with all the shit!

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