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2 years 46 weeks ago, 8:13 PM

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The Art of War

by Sun Tzu
I reckon a bunch of yall done read it.
I started it today. Damn near got through the preface and bibliography.

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 8:19 PM

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Sun Tzu

Never read it myself. Read excerpts from it. Must say, makes a lot of sense. A lot of wisdom in those writings that transcend ages. Bruce Lee also wrote some good books. The Tao of Jeet Kune Do was a good one.

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 8:53 PM

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The "book of 5 rings" by Miyamoto Musashi."The Art of War" is an excellant book.Together those two books will give you enough tools to develop excellant leadership skills in business and life dealings.

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 8:55 PM

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Duly noted

Thanks. Will do.

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 9:13 PM

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The Five Rings

If you are going to read the five rings, make sure you get an unedited copy. The Samurai choose their words carefully and precisely. Sometimes the English language takes liberty with translation and you will not get as much out of the manuscript.

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 9:33 PM

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my book is the definitive interpetation of Miyamoto Musashi by Stephen Kaufman,Hanshi 10th Dan,Clint is correct,i went to great lengths to research this edition,same problem exists with The Art of War.

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 3:29 PM

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question for lucky..

Just reread this.. Miyamoto Musashi stands out in my mind.. I remember reading something when i was a kid about a "sensi" who bought a calf.. Started his day by picking this calf up,, and raising it over his head..he would do the same thing every day..the calf became a bull and of course he was still lifting it.. Could that story have been about Musashi..name sounds familiar.. either that or Muldoon.. of the Japanese Muldoons..

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 9:20 PM

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hmm. looks like I need to get some books. I never read, guess its about time I start!! wonder If I know how?

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 10:45 AM

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this hasn't come up before why?.. These are a must read, and surprised we haven't talked about this earlier.. I agree with both Lucky and Clint that the closer you can get to the original Japanese translations the better, if you have an interest in the bushido code.. If not then an translation will be an education.

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 6:18 AM

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lots of wisdom; Not to sound like a liberal--but have you noticed no one has written a book called, "The Art of Peace"?

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 7:10 AM

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The Art of Peace

Some argue that the west has perverted Sun-Tzu's writings to fit a non Chinese society. That the book was misinterpreted and the idea of balance was muffled in order to sustain drama.

As listed on Amazon.com
The Art of Peace by Morihei Ueshiba
The Art of Peace: Balance Over Conflict in Sun-Tzu's The Art of War by Philip Dunn and Sun-tzu ping-fa
The Art of Peace (Shambhala Classics) by John Stevens and Morihei Ueshiba
The Art of Peace and Relaxation Workbook by Brian Luke Seaward
Presence: The Art of Peace and Happiness - Volume 1 by Rupert Spira
The Art of Forgiveness, Lovingkindness, and Peace by Jack Kornfield

There were more, but anyone interested can look them up on their leisure.
Most of the teaching of Zen deal with the "Art of Peace".
Morihei Ueshiba is the founder of Aikido and talks a lot about the way of peace. I think you will find that no honorable warrior seeks violence. But if the violence seeks the honorable warrior, they will stand their ground and attempt to destroy that source of violence.

So, in an attempt to keep LLE from reading like a liberal, there are books called "The Art of Peace" and some would argue that "The Art of War" is a mistranslated book about peace and balance.

clint

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 10:25 AM

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I think that is a Wilee Coyote saying...lol

2 years 46 weeks ago, 10:13 AM

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I'm on my way.. See youuns later!

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 10:23 AM

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those "Art of Peace" books are written by warriors[ not including those whose thrust is psycho-physiological]. How about the art of peace as seen by non-warriors. Or maybe I should search for Art of War books written by peaceniks??

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 11:32 AM

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Good questions LLE

Let your conscience be your guide...

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p.s. let us know what those searches discover.

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 10:23 AM

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did you write that a piece of your ass is gonna kill something?

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 10:23 AM

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Hope she wins.

2 years 46 weeks ago, 1:40 PM

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scored the first 3 points!
I'm posting a picture in a minute

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 10:25 AM

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Peace and Piece are entirely different unlike yo MonkeyAss. lol

2 years 46 weeks ago, 1:25 AM

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just trying to catch up.. been busy the past couple days.. see ya all later..

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 10:12 AM

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rug, apparently I'm not allowed to do that 'cuz here's what I got:

Access denied

Maybe if I check with the taxidermist he'll have something that'll work??

:<)

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 3:47 PM

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anytime you guys see

"access denied" it means one of the mods has taken out the trash.

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 10:33 AM

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For obvious reasons.. thanks for the concern tho buddy.. matters..

I was responding on the palma post .. blam it blew up and resides in cybershit..try here

I am L eye dom..so maybe thats why i don't shoot long guns as well as handguns.. thats the only thing i can think of.. initial experience is about the same.. no other issues.. Only thing i know is that i had to work to Q with the rifle.. and always wore expert, or dist. exp pin for pistol. I think thats one reason im looking forward to seeing what i can do with the SMLE.. course thats going to be scoped so it should be easier..

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 5:27 PM

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The Art of War

I finished "reading" it yesterday. Now to re-read it and try to develop a comprehension of what it really says and what that means to me and how it applies to my life.
The translation I have is by Lionel Giles, 1910, with commentary by TS'AO KUNG (aka TS'AO TS'AO), MENG SHIH, LI CH'UAN, TU YU, TU MU, CH'EN HAO, CHIA LIN, MEI YAO-CH'EN, WANG HSI, HO YEN-HSI and CHANG YU.

The commentary dates from 155 A.D. to the 11th century.
To those who have not read this book, as has been stated, it is a must read.
All the common sense in the world cannot prepare you for facing a foe who is armed with this knowledge if you are ignorant of it.

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 5:36 PM

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get it but Salvation Army thrift store don't have it in stock LOL !
Since you recommend it I'll get it.

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2 years 46 weeks ago, 6:26 PM

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I liked the part

where sun tzu gets the attention of the class by cutting the heads off the two "leaders",oh shit things are gonna change Baby!

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