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4 years 41 weeks ago, 4:29 PM

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does anyone have expience with the 92 and 96 models? how do they hold up under constant firing? do the bullets stay center or do the pull to the right just a little like some colt .45 models.im gunna be able to afford one alot sooner then expected. is there a better brand with the same style with the same price range? every where i look most dont like the 92 cause its standered issue and out dated but dont say anything about reliabilty. so to the point am i gunna be able to shoot it for fun and still be able to relay on it with my life?

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4 years 39 weeks ago, 4:48 PM

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I ever own was 92F 9MM bought in the late '80s..I took my CCW test with it,it is one on the best shooting guns I own and one of the most accurate.I have put several rounds through the pipe in one "sitting",no issues!Now I carry a HK UPS 40 compact everyday,unless I go to my farm.That's just to mainly to put wear on newer holsters I have bought or want to shot something different.I have NEVER had an issue with my 92F.I also have two Sig P226 that I have recently gotten and am growing quite fond of them.I carried 1911 in the service and had no issues with that weapon,have one Springfield and looking at another really hard,a 1911 Lightweight Operator model.
I guess what I'm getting at is there a lot of good handguns out there,it just depends on how much you want to spend.......all I can say is YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.My best friend did not believe me....now he wonders why his gun does shoot straight and it jams about every time out.It is some off brand(the brand escapes me at the moment).He paid about 300.00.Don't get me wrong there may be 300.00 guns out there but I have not found a "good" one.Unless it is used,and nothing wrong with guns but you have to have some weapons knowledge.

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4 years 40 weeks ago, 10:19 PM

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You're probably not going to live long enough to wear out a Beretta 92. They went through incredible torture tests before the US adopted them for their service handgun. They kept on shooting, and shooting, and shooting. It's probably not the first choice for bullseye competition, but it's almost surely more accurate than you are.
I don't understand what you said about 1911's pulling to the right. No handgun pulls to either the right or left unless the shooter causes it, unless it's just a total piece of garbage. If you hold it the same way for every shot, the groups will be centered. This may be a 1" group or a 5" group, but it will be centered time after time if you hold it the same, and have the same trigger pull, and keep your wrist firm.

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4 years 40 weeks ago, 10:26 PM

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thanks

thanks guys

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4 years 40 weeks ago, 10:36 PM

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another qeustion

ok indiana has established a rilfe law that i just learned about. only .357mag and bigger long pistol rounds can be used. but you can also use a rifled slug gun which one is better for hunting deer with out riuning the meat. im so used to using savages growing up its gunna be a transition for me.

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4 years 40 weeks ago, 10:45 PM

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I can't find the post where you asked about an H&R/NEW Topper Trap Gun. I just looked on the H&R 1871 LLC website and found it! 30" bbl, screw-in improved modified choke, walnut stock, Pachmayr recoil pad (doesn't say which oneI), 2 white beads on the bbl. Looks like it should work fine, after you've broken it open enough times to get it opening smoothly and quickly. They said it was for "entry level trap competition", which means it's not in the class of the extremely expensive dedicated trap guns, but also nowhere near as expensive.

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4 years 40 weeks ago, 11:04 PM

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cool

i deleted that post found the whole set up - the scope if i decide to go with the slug gun if not gunna most likely go with a repeater of some kind.. but thanks for looking it up. im probaly gunna get a mossburg with a tactical stock to help with recoil if i do get a slug gun.

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4 years 40 weeks ago, 10:25 AM

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beretta 92 and 96

I have experience with both. While they work, they're not my first choice or second or third. I've experienced quite a few jams, which could be attributed to the magazines. I think if you stick to the factory civilian mags you should be fine... but not 100% sure on that one. They are pretty accurate. If you want to stay away from polymer framed guns then I suggest you look into a sig P226 or P229 if you can afford one. You can also find good deals on police trade in P226's and P229's that have been factory refurbished and come with a warranty for quite a bit cheaper than buying new. If you're open to at least trying out a polymer frame, I suggest you look into a FNP or FNX. I used to strictly be a glock guy, but I've really started liking FN's handguns. You can get them DA/SA which is what i'm used to with my sigs (most of the other popular poly framed guns are striker fired DA). Don't get me wrong, a 92 should be fine... I just think you should try a few other models out before you make your decision. Oh, and as for the 1911 pulling right... If you're a right handed shooter, it could be caused by anticipating recoil, thumbing, or squeezing your whole hand with the trigger instead of a smooth pull.

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4 years 39 weeks ago, 4:29 AM

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Reaper308 wrote:
I have experience with both. While they work, they're not my first choice or second or third. I've experienced quite a few jams, which could be attributed to the magazines. I think if you stick to the factory civilian mags you should be fine... but not 100% sure on that one. They are pretty accurate. If you want to stay away from polymer framed guns then I suggest you look into a sig P226 or P229 if you can afford one. You can also find good deals on police trade in P226's and P229's that have been factory refurbished and come with a warranty for quite a bit cheaper than buying new. If you're open to at least trying out a polymer frame, I suggest you look into a FNP or FNX. I used to strictly be a glock guy, but I've really started liking FN's handguns. You can get them DA/SA which is what i'm used to with my sigs (most of the other popular poly framed guns are striker fired DA). Don't get me wrong, a 92 should be fine... I just think you should try a few other models out before you make your decision. Oh, and as for the 1911 pulling right... If you're a right handed shooter, it could be caused by anticipating recoil, thumbing, or squeezing your whole hand with the trigger instead of a smooth pull.

I have a friend who has his FFL, he just got in some 229's from DHS(yes they are engraved) for something like $530 out the door

4 years 40 weeks ago, 12:48 PM

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advise.(Not that you need my approval)I totally agree with his pulling probs. also.He will get over it if someone works with him don't think I have ever chatting with you before but I have read some my your posting and I like your style.Look forward to swapping info in the future.This is the friendly and most informative site I have ran across and I have been through several.Catch you later.Take care.

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4 years 40 weeks ago, 3:17 PM

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thanks agian guys

well i was looking at FNH web site looking at reviews and what not and low and be hold the two guns that i have wanted but didnt think they had civilian models. and they do PS90 and the Scar there goes my bugget seems how the scar will ultimently replace the m16 style ARs in the next few years as the main military weapon as choice probaly wont be a bad choice as a marksmen rifle.

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4 years 40 weeks ago, 3:21 PM

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the scar has some competition. check out the ACR. clintbo just bought one, I've been patiently waiting for his review for some time, and I'm tired of being patient. I think that monkey is waiting on his G5

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4 years 40 weeks ago, 3:23 PM

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who makes it just pulling up raidology web sites lol

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4 years 40 weeks ago, 3:28 PM

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josh: ACR

was developed by magpul as the masada. Later purchased by bushmaster, now marketed by remington (bush and rem are owned by the same holding company). They're using the remington name because it has a longer history with military contracts, therefore more likely to get in the door than bushmaster. Its definitely giving the scar a run for its money. Many people think its a superior rifle.

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4 years 40 weeks ago, 3:29 PM

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4 years 40 weeks ago, 1:53 AM

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is there a type......

of round that help reduce bullet jams. like is JHP more likey to jam then FMJ. or does depend more on the gun, clip spring or slide?

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4 years 40 weeks ago, 6:33 AM

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Jams

If you have a solid firearm that is well maintained you should be able to shoot just about anything. This goes for the mags as well. They do require occasional maintenance. Softpoint ammo could be more susceptible as it typically has a broader point. JHP or FMJ have much more taper at the tip. A friend had me take look at his P220 and nothing I did could stop it from jamming. Every once in a while you get a lemon. Throw it at the perp and run or pull your backup. Experience and 1000's of rounds is the best teacher. Speaking of which I could use a few grammar lessons!!

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4 years 40 weeks ago, 4:05 PM

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thank you guys

you all been a big help with my questions, and i really do appreicate all the help. anyone now a good kind of low light sights? and are pancake holster comfortable?

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4 years 40 weeks ago, 3:38 PM

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trijicon for night sights

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4 years 39 weeks ago, 1:58 AM

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pancake holsters

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you all been a big help with my questions, and i really do appreicate all the help. anyone now a good kind of low light sights? and are pancake holster comfortable?

in a kydex pancake holster i have a FOBUS and an Uncle Mikes for my Glock 19/26,the Uncle Mikes is better,the tab that grips on the inside is more rigid,with bigger teeth,that grip the pants,also,the "pancake"is more rigid.I have literally pulled the entire FOBUS pancake holster out during a draw,while wearing a good belt too.Both the FOBUS and UM adjust for slant,but only the UM has tension screws to adjust how much the holster grips the pistol.
so the pancake holster is comfortable,you have to be careful when you drop your pants,i don't use a pancake much anymore, i prefer a belt slide.

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4 years 39 weeks ago, 12:48 PM

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I have a few of these personally from different manufacturers....

1. Beretta makes the best Beretta... Hands down....

2. ATI makes a Turkey made clone of it that sells for $349.99 with a lifetime warranty at www.colemantyler.com

3. Taurus makes a decent version of this, but it does not accept Beretta magazines. It shoots well and has a slightly better feel to it than the Beretta, but it is still not the Beretta...

All these guns are available at www.colemantyler.com

They just ship them to your local FFL if you are not local to them and it is as easy as placing the order online...

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4 years 35 weeks ago, 6:45 PM

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try to find a gun range where you can rent guns at thier range if your close to ft wayne theres one on 930 close to rt 69 called H and H i am pretty sure they rent guns

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