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2 years 34 weeks ago, 8:34 PM

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hey all, been busy, got a glock on the way, hopefully will have the money by the end of this week to finish paying it off. been looking online at bulk ammo, was wondering how good speer lawman and pmc's are. i know glocks will fire anything, i just want to get the best bang for my buck... i absolutely refuse to use steel cased ammo in anything except my saiga 7.62, and even then its rare. thanks in advance

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2 years 34 weeks ago, 8:41 PM

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Hi what are you going to use the ammo for? just shooting? home defense? hunting?
I like mag safe ammo for home i got a glock 17 gen 1 but thats me,there is a guy in los veges that sels ammo that gose BOOOM when it hits :>) .........................TY

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2 years 34 weeks ago, 8:55 PM

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glock ammo... I've used the PMC stuff and it's good enough to practice with. A little dirty, but good enough. For home defense... Speer lawman should do fine. Hornady TAP has worked great for me too as well as Remington Gold Saber.

2 years 34 weeks ago, 9:13 PM

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Either PMC or lawman will be fine. I'm not sure how much you're planning on buying but any of these will be fine for plinking also:
Fed RN:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_info.php/pName/500rds-9mm-federal-...
AE:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_info.php/pName/500rds-9mm-federal-...
UMC:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_info.php/pName/500rds-9mm-remingto...

Catfish is right, some of the cheaper stuff is dirty... but hey, its a glock.

For defense:
124 gr HST:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_info.php/pName/50rds-9mm-federal-l...
124 gr Win SXT +P:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_info.php/cPath/23_61_119/products_...

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2 years 33 weeks ago, 4:46 PM

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I'd use 9mm! LOL...............I use Federal for the range and Speer or Hornady for Defense.

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2 years 33 weeks ago, 8:23 PM

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lol @ shakle

thanks a bunch all. the main thing im using ammo for right now is to get the tightest groupings i can so i can get my CPL with ease. just practicing right now. I don't want to take the class with shitty ammo. but don't wanna spend tons of money for the best either, may be what i will have to do for the time being but oh well, still able to stock up on the cheaper stuff as well. which raises another question i should have asked the CPL instructor. do you use JHP's for the class? or are you allowed FMJ's?

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2 years 33 weeks ago, 9:22 PM

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you could shoot a 22 if you want. FMJ is fine...

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
2 years 33 weeks ago, 10:26 AM

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That brings us back to the scenario in the painted rifle thread. If you qualify with a .22 but carry a .45.... in the case that you actually have to use your weapon and something goes wrong, the argument could be proposed that you're not qualified enough to carry such a large caliber. I would suggest qualifying with the largest caliber that you plan on carrying. It’s not a hard qualification.

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2 years 33 weeks ago, 11:26 AM

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Reaper without a doubt

This is actually something that as an NRA instructor giving classes and certifying people is supposed to not be able to creep back and bite you. But it can, especially with what you tell people during a class. Because when someone is sitting in front of the DA and they ask them if they have any formal training and they reply "Yes I do and NRA Instructor (fill in blank) trained me to do this or to do that" it can really have some big nasty monstrous TEETH.

It is weird, but that is why the NRA states that I can not use my affiliation with them for none NRA sanctioned events or classes. CYA kinda thing.

I've some opinions about the whole process but I can't put the in print because of possible negative outcome for me personally in a professional manner....

suffice it to say I feel the whole CPL process has overtones of being more of a Cash Cow and CYA thing than having any real merit as a instructional and qualification tool.

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
2 years 33 weeks ago, 11:45 AM

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That was the main reason for opposition when the AZ bill was proposed to do away with requiring a CCW permit to carry concealed. If the permit is no longer required, DPS no longer gets their $65 per card holder at time of issue and renewal. I'm glad the bill passed and I still renew my CCW because it makes buying firearms quicker (no phone call) but it’s all about the benjamins for sure.

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2 years 33 weeks ago, 12:14 PM

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But I think that the State and Federal Background check should be enough. I say this because of what I have learned in different instructor classes and what the thought behind it is in consideration of the NRA certificate needed for the CCW application.

I understand that it is a basic instruction and completion certificate, nothing more. It is up to the application recipient to learn to shoot with skill and the finer manipulation of their respective firearm.

But a lager percentage of people I see coming through the classes have never ever shot in their lives and have never held a weapon before.

Many state they intend to follow up and actually learn to shoot and be prepared to defend themselves and their own. But the larger portion do not do it and they are some of the most dangerous people to have a firearm on in public because of the lack of ability to hit what they intend to shoot.

Personally I think there should be a separate process for those in such a group. At least 2 or 3 hours on the range with an instructor. Before the application is even handed to them.

If you can provide proof of competitive shooting, military, leo or some other such skill/training then the CCW class is actually fine, though Leo and Military/Vet's are considered well trained even though some of the worst shots I see on our range are Police who would rather not have to carry a firearm let alone possibly use it.

I'm not saying this should apply to people who want to have a pistol in their car ready for easy access for defensive use, or hunters, or sport shooters. But those who want to actually carry and keep it upon their person in public settings should damn well have to prove they can hit the 9 ring on a Smurf in a consistent fashion
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No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
2 years 33 weeks ago, 12:21 PM

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not important, just not public...

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
2 years 33 weeks ago, 12:21 PM

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Yo Ishoot

I agree with you, I have my permit in florida all I had to do was sit through a lecter and prove I didn't shoot myself in the foot with the 22 pistol they had in a trailer. I make sure I am decent with my 45, 357, and 38 derringer (yes I pratice with a derringer) cause the day may come that it becomes between me and the other person

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2 years 33 weeks ago, 2:16 PM

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heh

i was thinkin about takin the class with my mosquito but didnt want to be frowned upon haha... so im waiting till im able to pay off the rest of my glock and get proficient with it and build my muscle memory to it. thanks for the info everyone. much appreciated, im glad i can come to a place like this and have all questions answered even if they're a dumb question.

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2 years 33 weeks ago, 2:55 PM

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When I took my proficency exam, nothing was said about caliber, just type....revolver or semi-auto. Is this something new, or just a choice with some instructors?

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2 years 33 weeks ago, 3:10 PM

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it's not new but may be different state to state

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2 years 33 weeks ago, 3:09 PM

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here is 500 rds or 115 gr WWB w/ ammo can for $125
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=45111/sku=105000025/Product/9mm-WINCH...

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2 years 33 weeks ago, 5:24 PM

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has a condition that if you qualify with a revolver,you have to carry a revolver,same for semi-auto,Up here in MN it does not matter,we all qualified with a .22.The same gun-60 guys.

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2 years 33 weeks ago, 5:30 PM

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If you qualify with a revolver, you have to carry a revolver. But if you qualify with a semi, you can carry either.

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2 years 33 weeks ago, 5:35 PM

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Kind of odd way...

I mean, hell, I couldn't tell you how many people I see T-Cup a semiauto.?.

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2 years 33 weeks ago, 5:38 PM

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T-Cup?

Is that a reference to the way they grip it.

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2 years 33 weeks ago, 5:48 PM

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Pistol in strong hand grip with butt of pistol resting in the palm of the weak hand...

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
2 years 33 weeks ago, 5:31 PM

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Here in TX it's a mess to understand. LBC is correct, to a point.
If you qualify with a revolver then your permit only alows carry of a revolver.
If you qualify semi-auto you may carry either.
You are limited to caliber maximum based on what caliber you qualified with.
SO, most folks qualify with a .45acp and carry most anything they want.
If you qualify with a .38 special or 9mm, that's your celing.
I know, kinda squirrely. Most instructros include the range gun and ammo in pricing now and provide 1911s and wwb ammo.

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2 years 33 weeks ago, 5:34 PM

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How's it going, buddy? Been a bit. I wasn't aware of the caliber thing. I didn't have to mention any caliber that I remember. Is this new?
I used my 1911, so I'm OK anyway. Unless I want the .500S&W. Hmmm.

Nah, I like my wrist in one piece. :)

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2 years 33 weeks ago, 5:39 PM

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Cold! I'm back up to tha OK border in the panhandle. Hope you get your deer soon!
The caliber thing could have changed without me being aware, but it was that way several years ago.

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2 years 33 weeks ago, 5:48 PM

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Cold snap

I think it should be warming up soon. I don't know if you read my other post, but it was the best opening weekend could be without tagging one.

I was there Sat-Wed. and saw a buck every day but the last. Three deer were taken opening day alone. One of the guys didn't want the front should where he hit his day and let me and my two bunk mates have it. We threw it on the smoker and it was good.

I would have liked to have harvested one myself, but the population is looking good. I will get one. Just a matter of when.

I'm excited about it because there was a wild fire that swept through there a few years back, and it looks like it has sprung back now.

Keep warm, my friend.

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2 years 31 weeks ago, 6:54 PM

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should be easy with the weapon you will actually carry. I say that because you should begin training with each weapon as soon as you buy it. How will you know that it's a suitable personal defense weapon if you haven't fired it extensively? As for ammo, shoot the same stuff you practice with. I carry 124 gr +P Speer GDHP for defense in my G19, but wouldn't want to practice extensively with +P ammo. I shoot a box of it every once in a while to cycle through old ammo and to maintain familiarity with it, but the bulk of my training is handloaded 9mm. Each gun is different, but I've seen a marked decline in the accuracy and reliability of Winchester 115 gr FMJ. My G19 and G34 both like RWS 124 gr fmj (Orange and black box from Wal-Mart), but if you ever plan to reload, don't use these casings as the primer pockets are larger than standard and you may have fully seated primers actually fall out during firing. it's happened twice in my gun.

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2 years 31 weeks ago, 5:47 PM

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There is a lot of wisdom on this forum, and I will offer my 2 cents very lightly.

To answer your original question: The Glock 19 will literally handle EVERYTHING. It is the closest thing I've encountered to a perfect pistol, all things considered.

For personal defense, I like Corbon 115 grain +P. I have done personal tests on wet magazines and it holds up better than any related round. Damn close to a 125-grain .357 mag Hornady (from a Taurus 2.5" barrel).

For practice, I like to use JHPs because I believe that if a pistol can feed crap rounds in hard times, it will feed good rounds, too. Bitterroot Valley is a decent company for bulk rounds (don't ever, ever use them for self-defense) but you can get a lot of practice out of this ammo.

Local gun shows should provide a means to procure $.25-.40 per round in FMJ. These are good for technique-perfection.

If you ever do concealed carry you need to use the best rounds possible--use Corbons, IMO. These are great rounds.

2 years 31 weeks ago, 6:01 PM

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I use 124 gr Montana Gold JHP. I don't buy it really for any other reason that it shoots cleaner and is extemely accurate in my G34 and I don't feel like developing two different loads for practice ammo.

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2 years 30 weeks ago, 10:50 AM

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training with JHP's

I agree with the ideology behind training with the ammo you carry. Unfortunately with high volume training, it doesn't make much sense economically and high pressure loads aren’t the most forgiving on parts, even your beloved G19. I bought a shit ton of standard pressure Winchester SXZ JHP's a while back for training. It's pretty decent stuff and wasn't terribly expensive, but there’s still a difference between it and everyday carry loads. It may be a bass pro exclusive though, not sure about that.

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I had no idea that the qualification varied that much state to state.. i understand the logic of all but the 22 thing, but im surprised TX has the restrictions vaq listed.. guess it's simple you Q with someones 1911 in my birth state. Can't believe they would verify ownership so you borrow a friends/family member to Q.. If you don't know anyone who owns one you need help anyway..

do l do my bi weekly (ok now that its cold bi monthly) shooting with what i keep in the piece.. of course not.. I don't advocate this of course, but i shoot enough that i'm NOT going to clean the pistols every time i bring the range bag in.. Sorry, just fact. a wipe down with the new hoppies cloths is enough if your using jacket ammo..

i like the Winchester white box 38 100 pack.. cheap, and clean to shoot.. i keep my padre plinkers for serious target work, the lop that loaded them for me says they're dirty, nope just that as in any lead round the bbl's not as clean as firing copper jacket.. When using lead i always fire a cylinder full of jacket stuff thru at the end.. might not clean the bbl, but i think it does, thus the justification..

My course of fire is pretty strict i've mentioned this before.. it almost broke the bank when we retired and i could shoot every day.. two ranges (all local, non maintained) both inside a 7 min drive.. So after some "discussion" with TBH.. i came to a sensible Course of fire.. that allows me to do a cyl at 25 yds..and two cyls done with tactical reloading at 7 yds.. all of this is great, but in honesty its not going to reflect how i would "really" shoot after changing out the limp 38's for 357 stuff.. course we all know that stress fire throws it all out anyway so not sure it matters that much..

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