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7 years 21 weeks ago, 12:16 AM

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I have been pondering this for awhile. Whats preferable. SA/DA, SA only, or DA only? I would think SA/DA, in .40cal or .45cal, but as I have never been in any combat situation I'll let those who have take the floor on this.

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7 years 21 weeks ago, 12:33 AM

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I got to answer that several different way. Lets include the law enforcement folks here as I think there is not doubt they actually use a sidearm more than the military (except possibly the Coast Guard which are both). I'm a retired Army guy so won't answer for other branches. Although a sidearm is used I believe rarely fired in defense except by MP's. I would prefer to depend on my rifle/shotgun, Artillery, Air cover any of that before a sidearm. Geneva convention requires a full metal jacket. I would go for a .45ACP as it obviously makes a bigger hole. The U.S., went with a 9MM to appease NATO. good choice bad choice ???

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7 years 21 weeks ago, 12:37 AM

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Sorry I didn't finish. DA/SA would be my preference with no F---ing safety.And no magazine disconnect.

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7 years 21 weeks ago, 12:43 AM

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I like the .45, bigger hole and all. I guess what I'm looking for here is what is the most reliable in all conditions, ease of use and things of that nature. The 1911 has a long and honorable (interupted) service, but something almost 100 years old certainly has been bested by now. I know a few (ex)servicemen who really hated their Berettas. What got this thought started was I was looking through the SIG website at the P220 Combat and went to wondering.

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7 years 21 weeks ago, 12:56 AM

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I have a SIG P220 and have never had a malfunction. A 220 combat gives you a couple more rounds, I like that.

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7 years 21 weeks ago, 3:59 PM

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Combat sidearm

I prefer the SA or DAO trigger, as they give you the same trigger pull, whether it's the first round of last. Keeping the trigger pull the same allows for better proficiency. As for caliber, I agree with charley if you are stuck with FMJ that .45 is the best choice. I prefer the 9mm, for reasons I have given in many other posts, but I am not stuck with FMJ in my carry gun. For a combat weapon used by the military, I would go with the G21SF if I had my way. Same trigger pull, .45, durable, and goes bang every time you pull the trigger.

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7 years 21 weeks ago, 4:08 PM

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my vote

I agree with the P220, the only draw back is mag cap, but it will be the same with any .45ACP. .357Sig would help out with capacity a little

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7 years 21 weeks ago, 5:42 PM

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I like the SA or a SA/DA pistol in 45 acp. Like the knock down power of the 45 acp or a 40 S&W.

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7 years 21 weeks ago, 5:50 PM

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ryo have heard about this personal defense weapon from knight's armaments call the KA PDW, personal defense weapon. it use 6mm round and believe is fire from 19mm lugar parabellum cartridge that is neck down from 9mm to 6mm and fire a light 6mm round make as 65 grain ball and is a bthp type ball and suppose to have penetrating power to cut through first rate body armor and then enter target and mushroom and splinter and leave lethal wound if hit in center mass. also know that knight's armament could not find buyer for this weapon and so give up but still have few dozen prototype. would like know more about the weapon if anyone can tell ryo about it.

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7 years 21 weeks ago, 4:13 PM

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KA PDW

never heard of it, but it sounds like it was developed to serve the same purpose as the 5.7x28 used in FN's FiveSeven. I have a feeling FN beat them to the punch

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7 years 21 weeks ago, 4:18 PM

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dear reaper chan,

ryo first see this weapon on show Future Weapon with mack mackowitz. he say is very excellent weapon. but 6mm off size round make it so hard to sell that knight's armaments give up and put on shelf. there is some info about this weapon at wiki, but remember, info at wiki not alway accurate.
is yet nother reason why my pops say there is no really good, really useful dedicate PDW anywhere on market unless want use Uzi mini as pdw. and then only for some specialize type mission.
your thoughts ka

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7 years 20 weeks ago, 9:39 PM

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combat 45

if yer stuck with fmj, then i would think you would want a 45. maybe the hk socom?

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7 years 20 weeks ago, 12:18 AM

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Never failed me. I have had em all and I went back to my beretta. Everyone complained so much and bitched about the gun.....never failed me. No malfunctions so far. I like the accuracy. It works forme

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7 years 11 weeks ago, 10:47 AM

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I used to agree with you about the M9, but not anymore. I was in a combat marksmanship tournament a couple of weeks ago, as-issued service class. Had a berreta M9 break on me in the final event.The frame broke on the right side interfering with trigger bar, and making it non-functional.

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