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2 years 28 weeks ago, 6:26 AM

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If you watched the so-called VP Debate, last night, you saw a good glimpse of the real Joe Biden I have observed over many decades.. He brought out all of his best weapons: Verbal diarrhea, sneering derisive, condescension,, and an air of superiority [undoubtedly borowed from his boss], attempted intimidation of his moderator and opponent, all directed at taking over the "debate". But he went too far, and he allowed himself to become a cariacture---a cross between Phinias Bluster of Howdy Doody fame, and Captain Phillip Queeg of the famous play/movie--the Caine Mutiny. Biden's continued uncontrollable laughter belied his attempt to cause his opponent to look small and pathetic, and make himself look "big" and knowledgable.
And so, we got to see the campaign's debate strategy------take the lead away from the moderator, show derision, disrespect, and belittlement of the opponent, as though he has little or no valid background or experience in such matters. Interrupt, and attempt to pre-empt as much air time as you can.

But--as I said--he went too far. He became more and more excited, and he went psychiatric. His behavior reminded me very much of that famous scene from the Caine Mutiny, when Queeg cracks on the witness stand, under the pressure of the cross examination--and shows the courtsmartial board his pathetic lack of the ability to control his own emotions.

I was appalled at Paul Ryan's reticence. He was good technically, but IMO, he needed a lot more push-back every time he was interrupted. He was much too respectful to a person who did everything but defecate on him, and thus, Ryan appeared a weak-kneed academic, rather than a candidate who could be a worthy leader to replace a President.

Most pundits say--"no VP debate ever had an effect on an election". But I am willing to bet, this one will be remembered very well---similar to LLoyd Bensten's 1988 laceration of Dan Quayle.

It is not often one sees a candidate go psychiatric--it was a good lesson for the people of the USA.

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2 years 28 weeks ago, 7:56 AM

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Biden has never let facts get in the way of his rhetoric. At the end of the dabate he even stated that he meant every thing he has ever said. Here is the problem, after the the Obama debate, 38% of people polled, thought Obama won the debate, this is what we are up against.

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2 years 28 weeks ago, 11:12 AM

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Captmax--You said it!!

The one that floored me was when he said something like--"there weren't any requests[ or we did not know about any requests] for additional security for Benghazi"--after all the testimony on the record before Darrell Issa's Committee.
I truly believe Biden is on the ragged edge of separation from reality, when he ignores this testimony, which I am certain he read or heard. He channels his boss's megalomania; when he believes his pursuasive, bombastic rhetoric cannot fail him with our average John Q public, and then he will say just about anything.[and usually does].

Season's greetings to you and all the folks in South Jersey--my old home area.

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2 years 28 weeks ago, 8:56 AM

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LLE , your comments are spot on. The moderator was clueless in controlling Bidens outbursts, you couldn't hear Ryan over Bidens interuptions.

2 years 28 weeks ago, 3:58 PM

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Thanks so much for your kind words.

Yes, the moderator -- Martha Raddatz--made Jim Lehrer look somewhat competent in the first Pres debate.
Poor Martha was the moderator who did not show up, except to cut Ryan off at the Knees at strategic points. But that, IMO, does not excuse Ryan's being testicularly challenged.

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2 years 26 weeks ago, 5:01 PM

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"When a wise man debates a fool, the fool will rage or he will laugh, and there will be no peace and quiet." (Hopefully quoted correctly from Proverbs 29.9)

2 years 26 weeks ago, 7:02 PM

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Bravo--a perfect description of Biden's "performance"!!!

Too old to fight, Too old to run, guess that's why I carry a gun! "would someone show this asshole the way out of town".[Rabbi Avram Belinski-aka "The Frisco Kid"]
2 years 26 weeks ago, 8:27 PM

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well put Matty

and quite appropriate.I will say that i thought Ryans performance was respectful,in that he was in a debate with the VP,i did not see it that Ryan was lacking in testicular fortitude.He tried to establish a respectful position,allowing Biden to run amock like a tired,scared monkey in a cage.

Do not confuse that with weakness.Thats the easy way out.

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2 years 26 weeks ago, 7:51 AM

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Paul Ryan didn't have to do much to make the VP look like a fool, Biden did most of the work for him.

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