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You could find them here and there, but it looks like they are making a big come-back. Savage has a 212 model and Browning has brought back the A-Bolt shotgun.

What do you think? Personally, it's just weird to have a bolt action shotgun. I like the slide or auto-load actions. Hell, even break-open makes more sense to me.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 1:16 PM

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Bolt action shottie

I think that I will stick with a pump, I agree SJMB.....Just seems weird.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 3:28 PM

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Mmmm, Slug Guns...

Not meant to shoot pellets out of em..

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
2 years 45 weeks ago, 4:59 PM

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model 55 goose gun

old one of mine,3 shot bolt action 12 gauge,Marlin brand

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 7:17 PM

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learning something new

Never seen or heard of one used for bird's. All they used them for up in Maine was Deer and Bear.

Though, I can see it working well enough, kinda long barrel, full choke?

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 9:08 PM

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long barrel

yes if i remember right it was a 28 inch barrel at least but i had a gunsmith cut the barrel back so i could shoot slugs out of it,other wise it was full choke with no adjustment,he cut it off and reinstalled the bead,i used it for several years then traded it and a side by side damascus barrelled shotgun for an 870.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 9:22 PM

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Those are sweet works of art most times.

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
2 years 45 weeks ago, 9:34 PM

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pretty rough

shape,pretty low budget damascus,i talked with the gunsmith that could resleeve the barrels so it could shoot modern shells in it but the rest of the gun was so-so anyway,a wall hanger.But i know what you mean,i feel the same way about classic wheel guns.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 11:09 AM

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buck wise anyway.. thought that would be the one piece that would bring in the bucks.. really great shape external hammers, extractors.. nope.. guess its an issue gettng low power rounds for it.

No shotgun shooter, but after i was told that for the third time decided it must be the case.. finally sold the gun as a hanger.. sad huh.. I'm sure there's a "low base" hand loader out there who's shaking his head.. This was a time deal, had i had more i would have taken it to a couple of shows.. anyway its a great hanger.. something about that Damascus thats really special.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 11:17 AM

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But I guess that's the way it is.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 11:02 PM

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Greg...

If you have more firearms to sell, or if you come across anymore down the road that are similar to that shotgun in age and condition.

Contact Don Schofield, http://www.donschofieldguns.com

You should take a look at his web site. I know for a fact that he has some seriously beautiful older firearms at very good prices. He will work on most prices and will do trades +cash or even trades depending on what you have and what you r wanting.

He is a really good guy and he is up right, meaning he would not allow you to trace or sell him something that was out of line. Say that Shotgun for instance, if it you told him $500.00 is all you wanted and he took a look at pictures of it and decided he would buy it. Then it came in he would call you and let you know that it was not enough and would work out something to make it right in his mind. Or if you brought it in and told him $500 and after looking at it he knew it would bring $2000.00, he would tell you that wasn't enough and probably give you double what you asked or allow you to adjust your asking price accordingly.

just an fyi...

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 10:49 AM

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YEP.. actually i send a lot of time on that site.. more than i should.. sorta window shopping/dreaming..

Haven't met him, but all i have heard about the man is seconded by your comments..

All of the guns are gone now.. I had a choice of waiting till a spring gun show in Prescott or Wickenburg.. (for fellow AZ'n wickenburg is "paperless") but wanted to get this done, as it was difficult to sell them anyway.. I really wanted Garys guns to go to someone who would appreciate, and shoot them.. that happened with all "but" the LC Smith.. and still happy about who gets it, and it will be the center piece of (from my understanding anyway) a beautiful room loaded with trophy mounts.

I use the Schofield site for upper end pricing.. between that and "blue book of gun values" you can get a good idea of value..

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 6:27 PM

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Bolt action sluggers

I read an article in Field&Stream about these. It said one of the benefits for this action is for better eye-relief on a scope and familiarity to deer hunters.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 7:36 PM

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Jeebus, hunting deer

with a 12ga loaded with slugs? Better shoot 'em in the head or you will be picking the meat off of the brush and trees...lol

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 9:09 PM

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is shotgun only deer season

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 4:30 PM

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Many states

Only allow shotguns for deer season. Indiana is one as well. Which doesn't make sense. There are so many deer, it's a nuisance. You'd think they'd want hunters thinning them out a bit.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 11:10 AM

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yeah i agree

during shotgun season a hunter can also use a Black powder rifle with scope or RD,a handgun larger than 9mm,or a shotgun,but during Blackpowder only season a hunter has to take off the scope or RD,Blackpowder is the snowiest/coldest hunting season we have i don't know the reasoning for removal of optics though....miserable and inaccurate maybe? fuckin Norwegions

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 7:53 PM

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I have one...

In .410. A J. Stevens that has been in the family for years. What we learned to bird hunt with in north texas. I can't even begin to tell you how many pheasant it has harvested.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 8:59 PM

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Not a slug gun though?

Wondering if I'm getting it wrong. Way it was explained to me a Slug Guns rifling can get boogered up shooting shot in it?

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
2 years 45 weeks ago, 4:44 PM

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on the 'slug', my Winne 1300 will shoot Hexolit slugs regardless of choke....I don't know...I don't shoot the shotgun enough for proficiency, to be honest!

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 4:54 PM

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Rifled slugs

Another good point Hamp. Yeah, smoothbores can shoot "rifled" slugs. They are slugs that have cut vanes in the face that lets air flowing over them to cause spin. That's the kind I use since I have an older gun.

There are newer slugs that are jacketed, saboted, and all around a large rifle round that are for rifled only barrels.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 4:48 PM

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ISD, shotgun rifling

Not all have rifled barrels. The Savage 212 does, but it's a 1:35 twist rate. The A Bolt can be either rifled or smoothbore. That's the way the old ones were anyway. I'm assuming the new ones are the same.

You can shoot shot in a rifled barrel, but the plastic from the shot cup will start getting into the grooves. But you can clean them out. But it does affect the pattern dispersal too and that would be the bigger reason to avoid shooting shot in them.

But there were many bolt action shotguns of the past the were smoothbore. One of my buddies has a .410 bolt action and it's smoothbore. He's been hunting squirrel with it for about 25 years. Sounds like Ronin has something similar.

But yeah, it seems the target market for these new ones are for deer hunters that have shotgun only deer season and want a rifle that is legal for them. But for me, it's another detraction for them. Too special purpose.

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 8:04 PM

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I think i read somewhere that one of the states back east "mandated" 12 slugs for dear..

Maybe im screwed up (reallllly?) on that, but seems like Ohio or Penn.. one of those was 12 ga only..

"it aint holy or noth'n".. still laughing at that one..

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 10:29 PM

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It leans in the corner by the kitchen waiting for a armadillo or coyote to wander into the yard. It's bagged it's share.
16ga ammo is starting to disappear from the shelves at the Western Auto Store. :<)

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2 years 45 weeks ago, 9:57 AM

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bolt shotties

Growing up, a friend had bolt-action Mossberg .410, and I encountered one the other day during a search. Great guns, external choke, and if you're like me and grew up on a big bolt gun, a BA shottie made season/game changes simpler.

They made them in 12ga too way back when if memory serves for bird hunting, nowadays mainly sluggers.

2 years 45 weeks ago, 4:23 PM

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I prefer my 870, but I still have my grandfathers Sears 12 Ga Bolt.

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