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1 year 30 weeks ago, 11:55 AM

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Bolt actions anyone?

I bought a Ruger American in 30.06 recently off Gunrapers.com and then sprang for a cheap BSA 6-24 x 40, cheap weaver rings from wallyworld. Total damage to my wallet 450.00. Ammo runs around 19-23 bucks for 20 rounds.

Anyway now I have to put it together and go wring it out on a range. I will post pictures soon.

Anybody else got/ getting into the bolt rifle?

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1 year 30 weeks ago, 12:26 PM

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For long range shooting, they are the best choice. However, you should set the gun up for the areas that you hunt. There is no need for a scope that will let you shoot 4 or 5 hundred yards, if you will not shoot more than 200 yards. I have a vintage, model 70 winchester chambered in 300 win mag., with a fancy BDC scope on it. My next rifle I want to buy is a model 700 remington chambered in 270, the problem is, no one has them in wood, only composite and remington is not taking any more orders because they are so back logged. Do you shoot at a range or right out the back door?

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1 year 30 weeks ago, 1:15 PM

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Even though the ammo is a about $1 a round, you woun't shoot it like you would a hand gun or an ar.

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1 year 30 weeks ago, 6:28 PM

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I ca do either

A range, out to 500yds, about 8 miles away or I can shoot out the back door literally. But the range is set up with 100,300,500 yds and a covered bench rest area. The scope has mildot graduations in it so I can dial in. And yes it will be ranged from 100- 300 for game but for target I can go further.good fun.

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1 year 30 weeks ago, 6:42 PM

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bolt action

after i finish my 308 AR (wont be long) im gina bust out my mosin project,nutin fancy,but i bet i can polish that turd a lil bit.haha.

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1 year 30 weeks ago, 7:40 PM

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what brand is it?

am still waiting for the base to get me my colt AR15 7.62 308.......................

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1 year 30 weeks ago, 3:56 PM

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its a home build mega,jp equipment so far.if you wana talk are lets move this conv off this thread tho :)

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1 year 30 weeks ago, 7:14 PM

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The .30-06 is a great deer round. My first deer rifle was a Remington 700 BDL in.30-06. I still have it and one day will give it to my son. I have been using a weatherby vanguard 7mm mag. Both have taken many deer. The bolt action is a great rifle. The capt is right and wrong about the ammo thing. I wish I could find good .30-06 for a buck a round. I like Winchester silver tips for both .30-06 and 7mm. However, I have been working off the same box of shells for the last six years for the 7mm mag. A couple of shots to check zero and one for the game, two if I'm sucking. Good hunting LBC.

1 year 30 weeks ago, 6:51 AM

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I have not purchased any 06 ammo in a while it turns out. the 300 win mag rounds I buy are also expensive, the only good thing is that I shoot it to make sure that it is still sighted in and after that, while hunting. It also kicks your ass when you pull the trigger.

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1 year 30 weeks ago, 9:32 PM

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I got some ammo

Federal 165 g.bonded soft point and Federal 150g.soft point 23.00 for the 165 and 18+ for the 150. Picked up a shootn'c target and Saturday I'm going to the range.

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1 year 30 weeks ago, 5:33 PM

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Yeah, Walmart has basic Remington soft point for $21 and change. Haven't used that for hunting in years. Ballistic tips are the way to go, about $32 give or take for 20. I shoot the same round to sight in. That was what I was getting at.

1 year 30 weeks ago, 6:47 PM

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I have found NO ammo at any store ( wall mart,dicks sports ).......................... am in florida

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1 year 30 weeks ago, 7:46 AM

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At the dicks near me, they put out ammo on wednesday and friday mornings. And if you are not there by 9 or 10 you are assed out.

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1 year 30 weeks ago, 3:00 AM

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Is there much of a difference between the remmington soft points and any ballistic tip bullet? I mean, we are talking about hunting right, not a world sharp shooting event. I live in Nebraska, and I use the remmington and federal soft tips in 130 gr. and 150 gr. as long as your in the paper plate, in your yardage comfort zone AND deer hunting why not get whats on sale. 7MM-30-06 those are huge rounds for deer. Even if you don't hit vitals, with those rounds they won't go far with or without a ballistic tip. My humble opinion anyway. I had a great chance to get a nice buck this year hear in Nebraska. I had the tripod on the hood ready to fire when my wife pushed me out of the way and shot him herself. For the first 30 seconds I was pissed off as pissed of can be. I got her back though. I dropped a NASTY fart bomb in the tent blind, I could almost see her eyes bleeding. PRICELESS.

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1 year 30 weeks ago, 7:49 AM

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I have never used them however, I know guys that do. I have dropped every deer I ever hit with conventional hunting rounds. I gun with a 300 win mag when I may have to take long shots, it has served me well.

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1 year 30 weeks ago, 7:51 PM

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Well I didn't make it

To the range,family stuff got in the way. But I did get new batteries in the bore sighter...and I did get the scope properly mounted and loctite the screws after torquing the screws....by feel. Ha!

I will be shooting a wide variety of ammo as I go but if I find some cheap stuff that works, the pricey stuff better work REAL good. That will be the fun of it, I know some guys that shoot their hunting rifles 5 rounds a year or less. 3 to make sure it works okay, 2 for the deer ,if needed.

What I like about the Ruger American rifle is it is 100%American made, bedded barrel, 3-5 lb adjustable trigger, easy bolt throw, safety right where it should be and the 30.06 is not as popular as the 308 so ammo is cheaper ,but even gas stations carry 30.06 around here.

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1 year 30 weeks ago, 8:34 PM

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You got me there, about 5 rounds a year through my 30-30 and the 300 win mag. The deer I killed this year in Pennsylvania was taken with the 30-30.

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1 year 30 weeks ago, 8:44 PM

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Where I hunt, you could be in thick woods or wide open spaces. The ballistic tips allows you to take full advantage of both. The 7mm mag is big for whitetail, but it shoots flat and hits hard. I like the ballistic tips because I get consistent expansion and energy dump into the deer at any reasonable range. I have lost deer with soft points that just deformed after hitting a bone. Wandering around the woods at night following a blood trail is not all that fun. When you might only get one shot at the monster buck, make it count.

I look at it like I do with my self defense ammo. I buy the what I feel is the best to carry. Currently that would be critical defense. If I need to use my CCW, then I want what the best and not the cheep stuff. The same dynamics with self defense ammo applies to hunting ammo. If the bullet fails to expand and just passes through, then it could take a while for a fatal hit to kill the target. A deer can go a long way even fatally wounded. With the ballistic tips, if I do my job and put the round on target, then the animal goes down.

We all know that you can kill a deer with a .22 LR. Yes bullet placement is king, but what is the margin for error. When you have hit the monster ten point with a perfect spread and couldn't find him after hours of looking, then the cheap stuff isn't so cheap after all.

1 year 30 weeks ago, 9:10 PM

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Yep coppertop

All good points for sure and I have spent the good part of one night tracking a wounded doe shot with a .223 ,and another I shot with a .357 handgun. So I want a bullet that's going to do a good job as well, but this is going to be the fun of it, sorting out ammo and optics, hopefully ammo prices will flatten out so I can afford to do what I want to do with this damn bolt rifle.

Now I have my eye on a lever action 45-70.......

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1 year 30 weeks ago, 9:19 PM

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.45-70 now there's a thumper. More like artillery. Just get close and let the shrapnel do it.

1 year 29 weeks ago, 3:43 PM

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The 300 win mag is also a heavy hitter, the bullet shock alone kills the deer. I want to buy a 270, I know guys that swear by them for the same reasons guys like the 7mil mag. It is almost impossible to buy a new remmington 700 in 270 with a wood stock. Any suggestions for another make and model of 270?

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1 year 29 weeks ago, 5:17 PM

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Cheaper than dirt still had some BDLs last time I looked.

1 year 29 weeks ago, 6:22 PM

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Has the Ruger American in .270 last I saw

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1 year 29 weeks ago, 2:57 AM

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did you know that the 300 win mag, 180 gr. bullet has the same energy at 400 yards as the 44 magnum does at its muzzle useing a 180 gr. car-bon JHP. WOW. That is a heavy hitter. I have always loved my winchester model 70 Captmax. I have mine in 270 WSM. I have never had a failure even in subzero temperatures. In the pan handle of nebraska a 300 to 400 yard shot is average. your 300 win mag would fit in just fine here. I have several friends that use that round when we go for mulies.

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1 year 29 weeks ago, 12:58 PM

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Thanks for the info

Since I decided that I am not married to the idea of remmington model 700 with a wood stcok and chambered in 270, I will look into other options. A friend from work said to buy the remington in composite and nuy an after market wood stock, since you can't find any. I will look into that option as well.

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1 year 19 weeks ago, 3:48 AM

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I am happy with the rifle, not so happy with the scope,and right now I am chalking it up to operator error. First time at the range I just shot 20 rounds. Found that I had run the wind age all the way over at 25 yds,needed more. Went back and flipped the rings, reset the scope, torqued the scope ring bolts. I also had to slide the scope back to eliminate the eye relief issue too.

Next trip to the range I got better results with the rifle, bolt throw smoothed out a bit, I now have put 60 rounds thru it, my shoulder felt it and I really had to concentrate on my trigger control and not flinching, glad to have the nice recoil pad on the Ruger as it really softens the recoil.

I like the trigger as well, wasn't sure at first because it is different.

Still not happy with the scope but blaming the fool behind the gun for now.

Sure feels good to put some rounds down range though.

Looking at Burris rings and an upgrade on the scope.

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1 year 18 weeks ago, 9:07 PM

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Any day at the range is a good day. I have a question, since I will not be able to buy a new model 700 remmington in 270, what would be a good substitute, as long as it is a 270? I can get the model 700 in 270 if a want a plastic stock, I want a wood stock rifle.

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Capt, have you tried

Winchester or Ruger?

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1 year 18 weeks ago, 4:09 PM

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I already have a model 70 winchester in 300 win mag. I really wanted the model 700 remmington however, I will not buy a rifle with a synthetic stock. I will look at the rugers, I am going to visit my dad next week, he lives near a cabellas, I will take him with me and see what we can find.

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why not? pro's & cons please?Base has rem 700 in 308 and 3006 and synthetic stock wondering if I should by?

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1 year 18 weeks ago, 8:04 PM

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I guess it comes down to preference, I like wood stocks on rifles.

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1 year 18 weeks ago, 3:02 PM

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I'm with you on that, Max. I know the synthetics are superior as far as bedding and durability, but I like a classic wood stock. Looks counts too.

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I still am not sure what I am going to buy, I will get one by spetmeber so I can shoot it some before deer season.

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is worth looking at. CZ 550 is good too. I'm a Remmy fan myself and think the 700 is one of the greatest.

Have you thought about an auto-loader?

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if your not opposed to an auto loader,and dont mind a higher price tag for a higher quality gun the browning BAR's are sweet as hell.a hunter friend of mine has one in 30-06,and loves it.
MSRP is about 1200 http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/finder.asp?f1=002B

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Don't want an auto loader, I looked at the x bolt browning and the ruger and savage as well. More than likely I will get one of them, I still want the 700 Remington but will not compromise on the stock.

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Is this what your looking for?
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I am almost positive they won't ship to NJ, I will look into having them ship to a place I know in PA.. Thnks for the research, I owe you one.

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Just helping a brother out.

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By the way, the BDL was my first deer rifle. It will be my son's one day. It's great.

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Thanks again Coppertop, I am looking into a way to get it shipped in.

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Got one, it will be shipped in to a gun shop in PA, it is hard to find brokers that ship to NJ. The broker I got it through is ACCUSPORT, thanks again for your help.

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Good deal, I know your going to like it.

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Good deal, I know your going to like it.

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I know I will too, now I have to find a scope to put on it.

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glad to hear you got what you wanted.what kind of scope are you using?

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Not sure If I will put a BDC style scope on it, a variable style will be the first option.

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Try www.opticsplanet.com

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Well 2 more trips to the range,literally a month apart,but with different rings each time and I am pretty much convinced the scope is junk now. I installed Millet adjustable rings this time to the range and I got closer to the paper. Now I am bore sighting at 25 yards and my scope cannot get on the paper at that range without much adjustment to one side, leaving me no room for any further adjustment.

So do I turn the whole setup to over to a gunsmith or go buy a better scope? I am looking at Leupold or. Bushnell scope 6-12x40 or 50.

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Sorry for the late response. Yeah, sounds like the scope is trash. You might be able to get some precision screwdrivers to remove the windage adjustment dial and "reset" the stop. But if you can return it, I would and get the Bushnell. I've had two, and I can't complain at all. Esp. for the price.

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I use a bolt action .250 savage. Badass old rifle. No scope just old school irons baby. I say you can't beat the feel of a good BA...although lever and ARs are fun theres just something about yanking that round out and punching a new one in that is very appealing. Dare I say sexy?

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I agree however, in my experience, I usually only have to shoot once. It is a good feeling to crank back on the bolt, knowing that you out another whitetail on the ground.

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