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4 years 32 weeks ago, 4:28 PM

Vaquero

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OK, Here's an idea.
The whole border between Mexico and USA should be handed over to the NATIVE Americans.
Give them 20 miles, lets just say 20.
Toll roads? Sorta.........
Sovereign Nation? Well yes!
Armed? DUH!!! I hope so.
Whats that?
You want to give some Northern border land back?

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 4:47 PM

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Hello?

My last post vaporised.

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 4:48 PM

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Bye

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 5:59 PM

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Vaquero, it wouldn't work. Native Americans have been shit on so badly for so many years by the federal government that they wouldn't do a damn thing to help. What promises could be made to them that they'd believe? The feds have broken every promise that's ever been made to them, and they all know this by having to live with it every day.
I'm kind of an activist about this. My wife & I have relatives and friends that are Native Americans, and have seen how they're treated all our lives.

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 7:35 PM

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In Cherokee North Carolina
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4 years 32 weeks ago, 6:06 PM

Vaquero

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ecaman

It sounds simple.
South Padre Island would have to be included.
A real honest Las Vegas on the sea.
San Diego, and El Paso, two of the largest ports of entry.
I don't know about you, I would rather have 3 Mexican drug gang members after me than 1 hell bent whiskey drunk Comanche.
Give the "Indians" real control.
No "token" crap.
They understand a dollar as well as a Jew or Mexican.
They will not do it for "US".
They will do it for the tribe.
They must have sovereignity.

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 6:15 PM

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Maybe, Vaquero, if you honestly gave them sovereignty over the entire border, several miles wide, all the way from Texas to California. Make it their land, their own country. I have Apache friends, and they defend their land very, very well.
You could do the same thing all along the northern border. The Souix would be pretty damned effective at keeping anyone out.

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 6:20 PM

Vaquero

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True Warriors, yet peaceful when undisturbed.
An absolute wonder and treasure.
I love these people.
I am not being asinine.
The whole damn border, no restrictions!

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 6:26 PM

Vaquero

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For the record

I am 5th generation born in usa.
Dads family was from Norway, Mom's side from England, and they still have the "family crest".
I just happened to be 3rd gen west tx.
Yrp, redneck.

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 6:30 PM

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Vaq West Texas family crest is on a Budweiser can, lololol

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 6:32 PM

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ecaman, if you want the Native Americans to patrol the border, a bounty must be paid. I guaranty if they start taking scalps, there would be a very small problem.

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 6:34 PM

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zx12rmike

Really, you tell em it's thiers.
You will pay to cross!

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 7:20 PM

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Border Patrol, Apache, maybe there are some Old Ones left that have been taught by Grand Parents, how to take a human life. These wounderfull Bastards were Blood Thirsty!!
You got my vote!
Give um some real weapons! .50cal's, some Reach out & touch someone GUNS!
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4 years 32 weeks ago, 7:32 PM

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would rather get personal about it with
a knife.

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 7:48 PM

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get personal

get personal?, AHHHHHHHHHH, how sweet, they like to give a little affection and clossness, ain't that Swell?
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4 years 32 weeks ago, 8:01 PM

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Ask an Indian

Ask an Indian, TEE Shirt, yes I've seen it out here on tee's, also the First Boarder Patrol,
With,Geronamo, and his Nephew (or Son) with 2 other Apache Braves. The Southern Indians look so much different than the Plains Indians. I go to church with a full blood PAW NEE. His brothers still live the Triditional life. He tell of his people as being the Blood Thirsty Ones. I'm shure their more Tribes of the same nature.
Lyle

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 8:08 PM

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makes me remember a time when I felt blessed.

Back when the space shuttle exploded and was
scattered over the western half of the US
A tribe of Navajo Indians was bussed into Texas
to search for parts of the wreckage.
I had the privilege of meeting three honest
to God " Wind Talkers" from WW11.
They were the elders of the tribe and when
the tribe came into town for supplies the elders
stood at the door of Wal Mart with arms folded
over their chest just watching.
I did get to talk with them and I don't know if
anyone had ever said Thank You to them
but I did.

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 8:20 PM

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Wind Talkers, would have been honored to meet them!!

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 8:21 PM

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You were blessed.
I spent 2 weeks in Chinle, AZ. working alongside these people.
The "coffee shop" was where the elders met daily.
The back room was the code talker room.
It really made me appreciate everything these people stand for.
Just like all WWII vets, there are not many left.

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 9:01 PM

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borders Mexico to the west & south of Tucson. It is wide open to the smugglers and coyotes. Me thinks them Indians is getting a kick back.

4 years 32 weeks ago, 9:05 PM

Vaquero

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1 toll booth sam,

they'll all follow suit.
Wont nothing cross without their blessing then.
You know I'm right.

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 9:33 PM

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Build a Casino

Make them mezkins pay for the trip

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 9:32 PM

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Code Talkers

Code Talkers,
Out in Grants New Mexio, their is the Code Talkers, Musium, I've never stopped, but regret it now.
Lyle

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 9:51 PM

CharlesW

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Lyle where is Grants ?

I don't see it on the map

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 9:43 PM

Vaquero

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anybody that can

ought to go, while a few of them guys are still alive.
Yeah, they will keep their spirit alive, but meeting these men is just awesome!
A proud people and rightfully so.

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 9:58 PM

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Western NM on I40.
South of Farmington.

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 10:00 PM

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Vaq I found it

I40 w of Albuquerque

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4 years 32 weeks ago, 8:06 AM

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The only Indians

that I have ever delt with was in Page AZ years ago. We were at a strip
mall gathering supplies while at Lake Powell and there were at least 10
of these poor bastards passed out on the ground, you literally had to
step over them to get into the shops. I mean no disrespect but the
Indians sure can't handle their "fire water", it's no wonder booze is
banned on the REZ.

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