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7 years 3 weeks ago, 5:48 PM

Death from Above

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Bullet placement

Say fellow shooters, I got into a heated discussion with a hood rat. we where discussing tactics. I am from the school of bullet placement with the least amount time and rounds. Double taps as quickly as possible until target is down. That is why I am happy with a wheel gun(357). Autos do however have their purpose.

He was telling me that he thinks you should unload as many rounds as possible. Suppressive fire is what I know this by. May be it is just his homeboy glock mentality but I know he is a fool for unloading his clip. So what do you think?


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7 years 3 weeks ago, 6:09 PM

Anonymous

placement

i'm with you on this and i think that dumpin a mag is just wasted ammo plus look at all the extra brass to pickup

7 years 2 weeks ago, 4:24 PM

craigman9mm

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Homie Shot Placement

They only know how to shoot one way and thats dumping out mags holding their hand sideways. I myself can dump 5-6 rounds out of a revolver faster than that homie can dump his 17 round mag from his stolen glock. Using simple handgun tactics.

7 years 11 hours ago, 6:38 PM

Death from Above

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I like wheel guns

I can use a wheel gun fast enough for defense. Also feel more accurate


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7 years 3 weeks ago, 6:12 PM

Ebear

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i like to go seious for the first 150 rounds then i f around a lil bit. two guns at one time and some rapid fire...boys will be boys you know

...check... G-AZ
7 years 3 weeks ago, 6:15 PM

Anonymous

ammo

u r more of a man than me if u carry that much ammo all the time lol

7 years 3 weeks ago, 6:17 PM

Ebear

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im talkin about at the

im talkin about at the range.but yeah i do carry two gun belts crisscrossed on my back.......frito bandito style.lol

...check... G-AZ
7 years 3 weeks ago, 6:18 PM

Death from Above

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assault weapons

Thats what assault weapons are for. AK's and AR's. I love to rapid fire with these. Machine guns are the coolest.

But above I am talking real world on the street at the 7 eleven. But then again this is Dallas, Tx.

7 years 3 weeks ago, 6:20 PM

Ebear

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then i do agree with

then i do agree with greasypaws.too much brass to pick up before CSI gets there

...check... G-AZ

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7 years 2 weeks ago, 4:17 PM

Reaper308

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shot placement

im with you death. two shots and pause. repeat if you don't put em down and out. first thing... you don't want to waste all of you ammo, there could be another threat (wolves travel in packs), secondly, your gonna have to justify yourself in court. its gonna be harder to justify defense if you put 20 rounds in someone's ass.

"Proelium Comminus Auctoritate" "Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."

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6 years 23 weeks ago, 6:40 PM

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Thanks...

That's the hardest lesson to teach someone from this Vin Diesel generation that as a licensed concealed weapon holder I am held to a higher standard than some innocent guy defending his home. In a court of law its hard to explain why you dumped 17 rounds into a punk! Even in Texas with the castle law you have a duty to stop a threat not kill a threat. If you happen to kill his ass with 2-3 well placed shots...oh well. Stopping the threat is your intention.

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7 years 2 weeks ago, 4:20 PM

Anonymous

placement

the way i figure it is why spend 20 dollars on ammo to put down a 2 cent thug?


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6 years 23 weeks ago, 8:37 PM

hillbilly77

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That is just some good

Math. To bad we could not give the homeys a couple free lessons.

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6 years 17 weeks ago, 3:41 PM

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hillbilly77 wrote:
Math. To bad we could not give the homeys a couple free lessons.

They know their grams, ounces, kilo's, what more do you wan from them? Algebra? more like if one nigzar leaves his house at 2 am with his gat and 40 in hand, and his homeboy leaves his house at 2:30 am and they live 20 blocks away, which would get to the soup kitchen first?

"You and your mom are hillbillies. This is a house of learned doctors." "You're not a doctor. You're a big, fat, curly-headed fuck."
7 years 2 weeks ago, 7:42 PM

Ebear

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CAUSE IT WOULD BE FUN?

CAUSE IT WOULD BE FUN?

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7 years 2 weeks ago, 11:18 PM

Anonymous

minds

simple democratic minds simple democratic answers lololololololloolol

7 years 2 weeks ago, 12:05 PM

Anonymous

it is fun

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhoooooooooooooooo.......dropped that scum bag!!!!!!!!!!!!1

7 years 2 weeks ago, 7:42 PM

Death from Above

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Homeboy glock

I like that pic of the glock with the sights on the side

7 years 2 weeks ago, 7:55 PM

Anonymous

brass

i like when i shoot em' sideways the brass hits me in the eye lol

7 years 2 weeks ago, 7:49 AM

blackwatch

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double tap

A double tap to the chest and or one in the head....assuming its a real threat. So when in the range, you might want to employ the same principle. You need not empty your mag in one go.

7 years 2 weeks ago, 6:49 PM

Death from Above

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this morning

This morning I woke up and next door at the vacant house 2 trucks were parked. One was still running. 2 guys were stealing rims off a truck. I could have capped their asses but they where not on my property and just kids. They were real fast though because they were gone in a flash. i called the cops. Vacant house are a magnet for drugs and crime.

7 years 2 weeks ago, 6:51 PM

Anonymous

eraser

vacant house remover=fire


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6 years 37 weeks ago, 6:54 AM

Crusading Knight

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Kind of like what Joe Horne did down here. Killed to burglers who came out of his neighbors house. The laws are very tricky concerning crimes that don't threaten you directly.

It is curious that physical courage should be so common in the world and moral courage so rare.- Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)

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6 years 33 weeks ago, 7:02 PM

UncleBuck

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tricky laws

Crusading Knight wrote:
Kind of like what Joe Horne did down here. Killed to burglers who came out of his neighbors house. The laws are very tricky concerning crimes that don't threaten you directly.

That's what I like about our Castle Doctrine laws here. If you have a legal right to be there, you have a legal right to defend against a threat. I know the cops in Houston are probably a lot faster than the ones in this little town but I'd still want to help 'em out by slowing down the idiots. I'd like to think I'd risk some legal trouble to keep my neighbor from being robbed. But then, this is a small town...

7 years 2 weeks ago, 6:52 PM

Reaper308

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little punk thugs. deserved a good ol ass kickin.

"Proelium Comminus Auctoritate" "Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."

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6 years 30 weeks ago, 2:55 PM

thegatesofzion

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That's why these little punks do what they do. They've been held accountable for what they do before and so they think they can go and take what doesn't belong to them and no one will do anything about it.

7 years 2 weeks ago, 6:54 PM

Ebear

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I'LL BRING THE MARSHMELLOWS

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7 years 2 weeks ago, 6:59 PM

Anonymous

cooler

i'll bring the cooler and the lawn chairs hey ebear dont forget your cheetos lol

7 years 2 weeks ago, 6:54 PM

Anonymous

kickin

yeah if more of em' got their asses stomped the crime and theft rates everywhere would plummet

6 years 30 weeks ago, 2:58 PM

thegatesofzion

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Their poor pathetic lives are too important, and so they don't have the time to get involved, until some punk rapes their kid, or breaks into their house, or kills a neighbor or relative.

THEN...they get involved.

7 years 2 weeks ago, 12:49 PM

Ebear

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man that shit is all over now city, suburbs.........

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7 years 2 weeks ago, 12:52 PM

Anonymous

citizens

if we as citizens were allowed to use a little old west justice like tar and feathers things would get better and you can spot a criminal better when covered in tar and feathers

7 years 2 weeks ago, 5:33 AM

Death from Above

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No trasspass

I am going to post a no traspass sign on the vacant house. WIll shoot to kill! But I do not think it will be good for sales. It has been for sale for 2 years.

7 years 2 weeks ago, 6:17 PM

Ebear

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hey.......get snake on the case..he'll clean it up....bam bamm bamm.problem solved

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7 years 2 weeks ago, 6:54 PM

Anonymous

come on get out the Bic invite us fellow gunslot players and lets have the 1st annual Burn Down A Crack House In Your Neighborhood it should be a annual event hell ebear will bring cheetos i'll bring lawnchairs and a cooler just say when brother

7 years 2 weeks ago, 6:57 PM

Ebear

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yeah i've got some slightly stale cheetos.....chewy like jerky........yum

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 9:10 PM

Schuyler

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You found them

underneath the couch cushions, right?

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
7 years 2 weeks ago, 8:58 AM

Death from Above

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May be I should buy the house so I can knock it down and build a House on it that connects with my current one. Or just build a fence on an empty lot. The own can not sell it. It been vacant for 3 yrs

7 years 2 weeks ago, 7:09 PM

Ebear

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you could probably get it cheap.and if you like the area why not?

...check... G-AZ

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7 years 1 week ago, 4:35 PM

jjdog2

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too many movin parts on the semi plus hood rats see to many bad guy movies.me i like my sit n spin aim bam bam........bam!

7 years 1 week ago, 6:48 PM

Ebear

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yeah thats fun too

yeah thats fun too

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shot placement

Hey Death from Above,
I agree with you about shot placement. I don't care if you are hunting, shooting, defending, or assaulting; you should always put the first bullet on target. Why else do we spend so much time at the range seeing if we can drive a bullet through the same hole in the target? I would use my examples and break it down like so...

Hunting: humane kills
shooting: one word--zeroing
defending: double tap, look for another aggressor
assaulting: kill target, find next, repeat

I am of the school that you conserve your ammo because we live in dynamic times and you never know who is behind the next corner. You need to be cocked, locked, and ready to rock. Swaping magazines takes to much time.

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yo

Thats why the number one fighting force in the world teaches there recuits well aimed shots, confidence under fire and SHOT PLACEMENT. that...and were cheap as hell. but the world still fears the sound of 500 Marines stomping mudholes in the asshole of the world.
GOD I LOVE THIS COUNTRY!!!!!

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7 years 1 week ago, 6:00 PM

Anonymous

shot placement

right between the eyes


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In that type of situation and would choose either a 45ACP or at least a 357mag if not a 44mag revolver and shoot to kill not waste or scater rounds like head and chest shots.


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7 years 1 week ago, 5:15 AM

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Texas

Hey, that guy in Texas shot those two illegals and they were on his neighbor's property...last I heard, we was going to be cleared, anyone in TX familiar with the case?

I agree about not emptying the mag though...if you can take him down with two shots...better to do that in case there are more!

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7 years 1 day ago, 4:20 PM

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Yes

Yes, He was not charged. They where illegals from the domincan Republic I think

7 years 1 day ago, 4:25 PM

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were they both kills?

were they both kills?

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7 years 1 day ago, 6:40 PM

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yes

Yes, both shot dead while he was on the phone with 911. Shotgun

7 years 1 day ago, 7:22 PM

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fuck it, when its legall go for it

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7 years 1 day ago, 7:25 PM

Anonymous

didnt know

the sound of a pump gun!

7 years 1 day ago, 7:29 PM

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and it was'nt his house? how did he get away with that?

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7 years 1 day ago, 5:40 AM

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Well

Well here in Texas anyone has the right to protect property or stop a crime in progress with deadly force if they fear for their life or the life of others after dusk.


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6 years 50 weeks ago, 7:34 AM

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dead men

dead men don't lie! lol

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7 years 1 day ago, 7:33 PM

Anonymous

here in

wa state if someone is watching your house they have the right to protect it

6 years 37 weeks ago, 9:12 PM

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i don' get it

Could you explain? Since I'm here, too. Whaddya mean? Thanks.

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 9:30 PM

Anonymous

Schuyler!

what we were saying here(or at least i was)in wa state if someone askes you to watch their house(you stay in the house)if they write you a letter of defense you have the right to shoot someone in their home.it basically means,they write you a note that says you have the right to protect yourself on their property and the right to protect their shit!it will lessen the chance of prosecution after knocking down a burglar.but i do believe that you are in King County so be real careful!

6 years 37 weeks ago, 9:55 PM

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OK Thanks

OK, I get it. Kinda like babysitting. I need to get a note from Mom that allows me to get the kid in emergency treatment if necessary. I'm in Kitsap County. I can just SEE King County from here--don't like to go there! :-) Thanks for the clarification.

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 9:59 PM

Anonymous

schuyler

i know it is bullshit but it is the biggest piece of advice i have for those who live here in wa.because some clown prosecuter will have a hay day with something like this senario without it!

7 years 1 day ago, 7:36 PM

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no shit, its allot stricter in illinois i guess, here the guy whom you shot and killed his family can sue you, after you go to prison

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7 years 1 day ago, 7:38 PM

Anonymous

get

them too!problem solved chi town is famous for mobsters! ebear capone

7 years 1 day ago, 7:41 PM

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dude, them mobsters are a thing from the past, now its the loacian triads, and the crazy russian gangbangers who are stonecold killers.

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7 years 1 day ago, 7:45 PM

Anonymous

yeah

we got them russians here too!a mile from my house the crazy suckers have a commune its all gated up with keep out signs on it.the local grocery store wont even sell to them anymore cause they will steal you blind then wanna get tough with ya

6 years 50 weeks ago, 7:27 PM

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Gypsies

I think you are talking about the gyps

7 years 1 day ago, 7:47 PM

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crazy

yeah, they just don't give a shit about nothing

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7 years 1 day ago, 7:48 PM

Anonymous

makes me wonder

how many of them are illegals too

7 years 1 day ago, 7:52 PM

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don't know and don't wanna ask them

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7 years 1 day ago, 7:54 PM

Anonymous

how do you

say green card in russian? lol

7 years 1 day ago, 7:56 PM

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from about a mile away

from about a mile away

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7 years 23 hours ago, 5:46 AM

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#1 russian mobster

Get this, The #1 russian mobster was busted living here in Dallas. His house was a quarter mile from mine of course the other side of the track. He built this house on a lot that was hidden. Huge like a Tony Montana house made out of marble. It also had a gate with to large russian eagles on it. Between the house and garage which had living quarters above it was a drive way circle. The pyrimad with the eye above it on the back wall. Really wild looking house.

7 years 9 hours ago, 7:42 PM

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try this

you should bake brownies and welcome him to the neighborhood

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7 years 9 hours ago, 8:02 PM

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yeah brownies

with a special ingredient! lol


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take it from me

take it from me controled pairs AKA double taps work great an old saying i like is two in the chest one in the head make sure haji is dead. just remember if you wound some gangbanging shit bag thug then some good hard working american medical professional has to "try" to save his sorry ass. therefore shoot to kill not wound and aim about two inches up from the solar plax and about an inch left that will kill anyone.

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6 years 52 weeks ago, 9:11 AM

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wow

hey, snake i found your long lost brother/////lolol

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6 years 52 weeks ago, 11:32 AM

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Well taken

Gunslingerjake, Now thats what I m talking about!

6 years 52 weeks ago, 11:50 AM

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before i deployed i was home watching the ufc rerun fights at about 130 am and i heard a russlting on my side door. my side door leads to the basement were my guns and ammo and all my hunting gear is. so i look out the side window and i see a little black kid trying to pick my dead bolt. so i preceed out the back door through the back yard down the driveway around the house and walk up behind him. i then racked back the slide on my 45 acp deaseart eagle and chambered a round and let me tell you what i have yet to see a face of grave horror and that much comedy since that night when the poor little homy turned his head and was staring down the barrel of a 45 lol yes it was a crowing moment is redneck history my friends

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6 years 49 weeks ago, 6:31 PM

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scared hommy kid

Hey gunslingerjake, i didn't know that the desert eagle came in a 45Auto. What platform is that on or did they make a new model in that caliber?

6 years 23 weeks ago, 8:47 PM

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Good catch

I was hoping I was not the only one that thougt this.

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6 years 50 weeks ago, 8:25 PM

Anonymous

what do you do?

you awake after midnight after falling asleep watching Leno,and your tv is moving.What do you say?
FREEZE MOTHERFUCKER!

6 years 50 weeks ago, 7:36 AM

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look for

look for the eyes or the teeth cuz thats all you can see on them at night.

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Combat double taps

We practice "Combat Double Taps" over and over again. Then we do it again. Bullet placement comes with practice. Double tap, double tap, double tap. Practice, practice, and more practice. You do this until you can do it in your sleep. Bullet placement is crucial and you get it with PRACTICE. Deadly force is a heavy burden and you must be prepared both physically and mentally.

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I never seen someone throw a bullet.


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shot placement

One between the eyes and it is lights out, end of story.

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just one shot with a 10mm hollow point on the midsection, chest area, leg, arm, anywhere man, they dont get up at all, dead or alive.

I'm just another damn yankee with a loaded gun looking for some fun!

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6 years 38 weeks ago, 6:08 PM

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here, and some very good sense. The problem is AFTER the fight, when the investigation is turned over to an ambitious, enthusiastic Prosecutor.
You empty your magazine into a perp, and you may very well go down in court.
You put two into the thoracic cavity, and have a "failure to stop", and follow with one round to the ocular/cranial channel to the brain, you look a hellova lot better to the jury, especially when your attorney enters into evidence, how you were trained, and what you believed, ahead of time, were the considerations for use of deadly force.
You wrote that you "shoot to kill"--you will go down. You wrote and demonstrated training and thoughtful decision making to "shoot to stop", and you probably walk.

Too old to fight, Too old to run, guess that's why I carry a gun! "would someone show this asshole the way out of town".[Rabbi Avram Belinski-aka "The Frisco Kid"]

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6 years 38 weeks ago, 7:17 PM

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How 'bout reality?

Some of the gun shop commandos in here are amazing. Sure, ammo conservation is nice if you could manage, but let's discuss real world versus range training. Yes, I know you should "train as you fight", but the fact is that when you double tap, hammer, controlled pair, whatever, the cardboard IPSC or IDPA target, you get to determine whether it is still a threat or not. In the real world, the bad guy may not go down with your two shots to the torso, and let me tell you, for the badasses out there that talks about "two to the chest and one to the head", try staking a balloon to the ground during a windy day, or tie one to a RC car and have your shooting buddy drive it erratically toward you and try to hit it. A living, thinking human will twist, contort, run, and do some generally weird shit in order to keep from getting shot. Let's add to that the fact that you are (or should be) rapidly moving toward cover, or at least attempting to gain distance. Good luck. Offensive shooting is different, being that you are the guy using speed, surprise, and violence of action and you generally get to fire first. You want to train as you will most likely fight? Train with multiple rounds, train with point fire techniques, and focus on firing very quickly, very accurately, at very close range while moving away from the threat. One shot, one kill is nice, but you can bet the scumbag you're engaging will use the above mentioned "supressive fire", and more often than not, so will you.

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6 years 38 weeks ago, 8:11 PM

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Double tap on a valid target is the only acceptable tactic. Spray and pray tactics get innocent people killed. Gangbangers with high cap autos make the news a lot becuase they kill their neighbor and not the rela target they were trying to defend against.....

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6 years 38 weeks ago, 8:32 PM

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Only valid tactic?

Go ahead and double tap, come to the low ready, assess the threat, bang-get-hit-by-his-return-fire-because-your-two-rounds-didn't-kill-him-and-you-took-the-time-to-assess-rather-than-firing-until-he-went-down-like-you-should-have. No thank you. I'll keep my well trained, well armed Glock mentality. Tactics are called tactics and not procedures because you use what is appropriate for the scenario. A single armed man, in the process of reloading after opening up on a crowded cafeteria in Texas, with his back turned to you, at five feet will probably be easily overcome with a single round to the back of the head. Two heavily armed, kevlar-clad bank robbers in California will probably need multiple rounds launched towards their head, unless you have the benefit of a gun store around the corner you can comandeer some rifles from. Some punk pieces of shit who pull up in a car as you are putting your PIN into the ATM and pull guns will probably need to be dealt with using a hail of mostly unaimed fire toward their car as you beat a hasty retreat to something that might stop their bullets. Unless, of course, you are one of the high-speed, low-drag, air-cooled, teflon-coated, laser-guided gun shop commandos or online rambos that can stand with the picture-perfect weaver or modified isoceles stances and deliver your precious two to the chest and one to the head of all your targets. Look up the phrase "non standard response" and try it.

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 11:38 PM

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Good point

Good point and you are correct about over thinking the situation. But I think we are saying the same thing but disagreeing. I love my glock. But all the classes/training preach double center mass shots evaluate cover position. This is not the only approach but a starting point. I think the training is trying to allow you to keep control of a stressful situation. I have only a few experiences in firefights. We never knew if we hit anything and we went through 1000 rounds. At our debrief, we all confirmed we were UCMJ engaged, but no one had identified a target. The OIC thought we should not have opened up without hard targets and chewed our NCO out. But unloading in the direction of the fire saved our ass. If we over evaluated, a few of us could have been wounded.
Now in a civilian environment you need to worry about a lot.....remember, the government does not give a shit about you. Your life is equal to a piece of shit thief who is trying to rob you. If you kill a little girl behind the thief, you are fucked....

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 9:15 PM

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Schuyler

Look up the "castle doctrine" this will help explain

6 years 37 weeks ago, 9:30 PM

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bullet placement

that's why speed shooting is effective. draw fast and fire quickly and accurretly if all possible. Practice speed shooting a fast paced way of target shooting. try to shoot out a orange dot a @15-25 feet out, never mind slow fire or double taps or triple taps or anything like that just fire faster than ususal and see how accurate you can hit at that pace. shoot 1 second in between shots, bring down weapon watch front sight, hold firm grip. than pick up the pace a little bit 1/2 second in between shots, than try no time in between shots, ride the recoil but not rapid fire. see how well you do then.

6 years 37 weeks ago, 7:29 AM

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I seen the results of street shooting's involving thugs first hand. In a hell of gun fire someone will usually get hit and it is'nt always another thug. They relie on rapid fire over accuracy. As for me I practice placement. But in a street situation if possible I would give a double tap from cover if it is nearby or while I'm moving towards cover. The thug has to decide if he wishes to engage me further. Meanwhile I will save my bullets and choose my target wisely.

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 8:01 AM

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The ONLY way to handle a hand gun confrontation IS shot placement!

Dbl taps are nice,,,BUT in my line of work we train with "failure drills".

Get out your shot timer,,,,1.5 seconds MAX,,,,THREE shots,,,,2 to the center mass,,,1 to the head....
PRACTICE,PRACTICE,PRACTICE!!!!

Kimber .45 is my carry weapon. We use custom 185 grn hp loads.

Hard time ?

Start with a smaller cal. weapon and work up to your full size side arm.

while wheel guns work,,,,AUTO's are preferable.

6 years 37 weeks ago, 8:45 AM

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Mozambique Drill

Now try it moving with stress. And try my balloon trick. I agree with Demo. Those of us (well, me, apparently) who say you will do more than your precious "two to the chest, one to the head" in a real defensive gunfight against something other than cardboard are not saying spray and pray. It's called "Nonstandard Response" in some circles. It's firing five or six rounds as quickly as you accurately can. It is the best way to put your opponent into hypovolemic shock as rapidly as possible and gives you a much bigger target than the wobbling, moving, ducking, dodging 8" circle you have in the head. The controlled pair, hammer, double tap, along with the "failure to stop" is a technique that has its applications, but like any technique, it does not cover all scenarios. So, get off the square range, start moving while shooting, and add more tools to the toolbox between your ears.

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 9:21 AM

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Well to tell the truth I just take out my nine and shoot the bad guys in the nose while I'm doing jumping jacks. So so much for your technique.

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 3:00 PM

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I hope you mean 9 meter gun. 9mm is too small. Just ask your local gun shop commando.

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 6:26 PM

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Distance

I think distance has a lot to do with the speed and difference between pointing and looking down the sight. As well as the speed of shooting. Supressive fire is good while bounding for better position and at distance shoot outs.


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Bullet placement

I've always been of the philosophy that a lethal hit, regardless of the round used, will be lethal. This has put me in the camp of using smaller, lighter rounds to more effectively follow up the first and allow more opportunities for a lethal hit. Don't get me wrong, a .454 or some other high end round will certainly give you a corpse and a mess to mop up, but being able to re-acquire or find a new target quicker means being able to address more threats more quickly.

The same thread of logic can applied to shotguns, to a lesser extent. I personally have a firm belief in the use of 20 gauge single ought as a home defence round, since it has a very mild kick and throws enough lead to be incapacitating if not lethal. And, since it has a low recoil, you can easily shift from one target ( And I hope I never meet someone who can continue to try to harm me after having their chest aired out by 20 gauge ) to the next.

But thats just my philosophy.


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shot placement

I taught advance pistol (and rifle) tactics for a while for the army at ft hood. For what it's worth here's what I taught. Single tgt, 2 in the chest and one to the head if still moving. For multiple tgt's, two in the chest of highest threat then move to next tgt. If after engaging other tgt's a tgt is still standing, two shots to the groin. The reason for this is simple, shatter the pelvic girdle and the tgt can's support there own weight. This slows them and you have a good chance of severing the femoral artery.

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shot placement

It has always been about shot placement. not how much lead u can spray any fool can put down surpresive fire.let a newbee do it

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6 years 22 weeks ago, 3:32 AM

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More on shot placement

Here's a thought. How many times in a street shooting are you going to get a bad guy who presents what Clint Smith calls "full value stupid", meaning a full body to shoot at? You fire at the center of whatever the bad guy exposes. People who do nothing but practice the Mozambique drills are deluding themselves and staying in their comfort zones. Stop worrying about the Mozambiques. Start working on the nonstandard response drills and stop paying attention to people who "have experience teaching advanced tactics".

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6 years 20 weeks ago, 11:44 PM

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Death from Above wrote:
Say fellow shooters, I got into a heated discussion with a hood rat. we where discussing tactics. I am from the school of bullet placement with the least amount time and rounds. Double taps as quickly as possible until target is down. That is why I am happy with a wheel gun(357). Autos do however have their purpose.

He was telling me that he thinks you should unload as many rounds as possible. Suppressive fire is what I know this by. May be it is just his homeboy glock mentality but I know he is a fool for unloading his clip. So what do you think?

My thought is same; controlled fire against an assailant, until other party is down.
While emptying out your mag, you are just tempting fate from another possible attacker, how quickly can you change mags after you just made yourself shaky and deaf?

Gun Control= the theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.
6 years 20 weeks ago, 4:15 AM

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joey, mag change

should occur after a shooting no matter how many rounds you have fired.

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6 years 17 weeks ago, 2:51 PM

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Shot Placement

We were trained, "2" Center Mass "1" to the Head. This WAS CLEET's training. Now CLEET trains says 3 "Center Mass, and 1 to the Head" CLEET= COUNCIL ON LAW ENFORCEMENT EDUCATION AND TRAINING.

cherokee65

Ps. It's damned hard to servive a chest wound!

Like the Kid says "Open their hearts and minds up to open oxygen"!
Damn I like that.

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6 years 17 weeks ago, 3:00 PM

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Homie

Never, Never ,Never Never, tell "Homie" Your training.
Did i Mention?________NEVER________________________________
Never, Never, Never, did I say NEVER? Discuss how you train. It's Like Obama telling Diaper Heads our plains. Sorry I think I said Diaper Heads. I ment to say F_____G!! Diaper Heads!

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6 years 17 weeks ago, 4:04 PM

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That's BS, lyle

Saying how many rounds you are trained to fire is not going to give a bad guy an edge or violate some operational security. The internet makes it possible for someone to find a whole host of training tips and combat techniques. You can download entire military manuals. Hell, you can watch Blackhawk Down and hear the CO use the term "Two in the chest and one in the head". Now sure, you don't go into a La Raza meeting and demonsrate how to pie a corner or how an entry team conducts a wall flood technique, but even those are available online. Saying I think the Mozambique drill is dumb compared to a nonstandard response does not mean someone's going to get over on ol' runawaygun and wait out the five or six rounds. Lighten up, there, sexy.

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6 years 17 weeks ago, 6:17 PM

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Shot placement

One well placed shot with a .22 is better than 6 misses with a.44mag

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6 years 17 weeks ago, 3:10 PM

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think fast

hitting them with a dodgeball is better that 6 misses with a .44 mag

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6 years 17 weeks ago, 3:24 PM

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I don't know, reaper

After six misses with the 44, you could always throw the gun at them. And as for countykeyman's comment, I agree, but four or five hits to the upper and center chest are better than two hits to the chest and a miss.

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6 years 17 weeks ago, 3:37 PM

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If your going to actually have to shoot a person with a handgun, 2 in the chest, 1 in the head, done, only 3 rounds used, the only time I can see rapid fire being used is for a close quarters defense, with your sidearm on your hip @ a 45 degree angle, and left arm swinging out to bash the bastard back and hip fire as manny rounds accurately to knock his punk ass down dead as a doornail.

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6 years 13 weeks ago, 3:45 AM

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How many shots

You don't know until it happens. Train for what you believe is the best procedure. No one can say they will do absolutely "this". The event is scenario driven whether you cause it or it comes to you. You might want to (should) load your firearm (handgun) differently in your house vs out on the street or your property. Not long ago a NYC Detective dumped 30 rounds into a vehicle in a drug bust/vehicle stop. I can't tell you why, but I'm willing to bet money, that for him, everything went into (tacypsychia)(sp) "slow motion" and he simply reacted out of 1.Training, 2. Fear., he probably wasn't aware he reloaded.
If you find someone in your home you "have to", deal with walls, furniture, people locations, etc. When you deal with it on the street it's safety of others, on the street obstacles including vehicles etc. Inside stores or (?) etc.
Just something to think about ! That's my 2 cents.

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6 years 12 weeks ago, 1:21 AM

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traumatriage

The primary use of a handgun is close quarters defense. I will again post a challenge to people praising the mozambique drill as the best defensive technique. On a windy day, tie a string to a balloon, tie the balloon to your target and do your mozambiques. The mozambique drill is a very good one to practice, but to say this is the best technique out there is wrong. Why not three to the chest and one to the head? Why two? Hell, if you can make head shots so easily, why not just put one or two to the head and forget the chest?

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4 years 4 weeks ago, 9:58 AM

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Drills

Double taps to COM are the basic standard, follow up head shots are difficult, currently using 124grn 9mm soft point rds in my duty side arm, more reliable feeding than hollow points, penatration and energy dump would appear to be the same. Less colateral damage and very rarely overpenatration when striking centre mass. No point in emptying the magazine in one BG only for another to appear round the corner, I have found that unless dealing with either a drug crazed nut job or a I want to die for (insert cause) types, mostly the BG'S appear in at least pairs possably more. No rd bar the .50 can really stop one of the dedicated / drugged up types first time every time. An example of this was seen in Iraq during the 04 uprising, rag head charging down street emptying his AK from the hip took a burst of fire from the GPMG staggered a bit and then continued on, stopped when he got a second burst that pretty much cut him in half. On searching the body we found hospital grade adreilan in syrindges that these guy's were pumping into them before they made contact with us. All situations are fluid and have to be delt with on an individual basis.

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