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I just ordered a Masada (Bushmaster ACR enhanced) and Gemtech G5 suppressor. I will probably be putting a Leupold Mark 4 CQ/T for the eyes and a grip pod for the legs. Although I am intrigued by Magpul's AFG-1™ - Angled Fore Grip.

I'll post pics when it gets here. I might get the first one in Seattle. Yah me!!

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6 years 31 weeks ago, 11:02 AM

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Looking forward to seeing it Clint...

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6 years 31 weeks ago, 3:36 PM

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Before you decided on the Bushy. Their stuff looks very good--I wonder what all you looked at, and how/why you made the decision on the ACR [which appears to be very pricey]. That certainly would help me, and probably many others.

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6 years 31 weeks ago, 3:40 PM

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Glad to see you back on. We've missed you. How've you been?

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6 years 31 weeks ago, 2:22 AM

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lurking around the neighborhood. Thanks for asking.

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6 years 31 weeks ago, 7:56 PM

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Reaper and I have been toying with the whole piston AR style rifle for about 2 months. I was comparing all the pistons out there to the Hk416 because that is what the industry seemed to do. I am no stranger to the Hk style piston. The SL8-1 I own is a conversion to a G36 minus the selector switch. A nice rifle, but it seems rather heavy due to all the polymer.

I was at one of my local guns shops, actually the one that helped me with the G36 project, they suggested the FN SCAR, the MASADA, and the SIG 556. This recommendation was based that no matter how good the M4geries were, they were still an after thought. Even from the factory, the piston is a modification to the Stoner M16. There argument made sense to me. I ruled out the SCAR after holding one. Seemed more like more of a cheap airsoft toy than a tool. Oh yeah and it is Belgian. Okay, FN makes nice weapons, but I wanted an "American" made rifle. The Sig did not fit me very well, again there is nothing wrong with Sig-Sauer, the rifle just did not feel good to me. I liked the ergonomics of the Masada (ACR). Very intuitive, but not 100% ambi as they claim; the charging handle is on the left side of the weapon.

The fact that I swear by Barnes bullets and have both Remington and Bushmaster rifles might have given the ACR an unfair advantage, but it was comfortable. I payed extra for the enhanced version because I would have done the exact same thing with my basic version, only here the factory is doing the work instead of me. This rifle is expensive. I have been saving for a rifle for about a year now. I was looking to add to my WWII collection, but I could never find a Thompson that I could afford (authenticity is the key for me in the WWII category).

I decided on the Gemtech because I have used them before, they are nice suppressors, and they paid for my stamp. Economics does play a little into my decision. I have dealt with Leupold optics for as long as I have hunted. The CQB scope is 1-4 variable. The only downside to it is the battery. I have thought about trijicon's 1-3.5 scope with the tritium illumination, but I do not like the "crosshairs".

My G36 was also an investment. About the same as the ACR when all was said and done. The fact that the rifles I mentioned earlier were designed for the piston actuation is what steered me toward them. I read somewhere that for most people they will never know the difference between a piston and a direct impingement rifle. They do not shoot enough in adverse conditions to warrant a piston. I do not know if this true. The AK was based of a German design, if I remember correctly. That system is going strong still to this day.

I also like the interchangeable calibers. Once they are released, I will have a platform that I can choose which caliber I want to shoot. A novel idea at best, but I like it.

I hope I have given you some understanding into the world of my thought process and rationale for the decision I made.

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6 years 29 weeks ago, 11:06 PM

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Yes the ACR is fully ambi including the charging hande. The charging handle is made to be switched to either side of the gun in a matter of about 20 seconds depending on the preference of the shooter. They all come from the factory on the left because most shooters/people are right handed. Supposedly bushmaster is going to release a dual sided charging handle in the near future for people that wish to have it on both sides at the same time. And just my opinion but if you really want a top notch piston AR then you should check out LMT's Piston AR. It has the best features and options to me. I researched and held ALL piston ARs and shot 95% of them before I made my decision on which one to buy. LMT hands down in my book..

6 years 29 weeks ago, 3:58 PM

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welcome to the site. Do you work for Lewis machine.... or did you just buy one of their rifles? I know they make good stuff. I almost bought one of their lowers not too long ago, still might. I need a MWS also.

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6 years 29 weeks ago, 12:01 PM

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I don't work for LMT but I would if they offered me a job. lol.. I just did a whole lot of research and a lot more shooting of diff rifles and the ones I narrowed it down to was the LMT, POF, and H&K. All 3 brands are top notch but the LMT just does it all plus the company having an awesome track record with everything they make is a plus. The LMT is truely modular, uninterupted monolithic top rail, internal parts have proprietary coating,can be converted between calibers in less than 2min (super quick barrel change), comes factory with the SOPMOD stock, upper and handguard are 1 piece machined from solid billet and a machined one piece bolt carrier. Don't get me wrong the decision between LMT and POF was hard but in the end after handling and shooting both I chose LMT. (POF has some very good unique features as well) The HK is a good rifle also just not what the LMT has to offer plus it is overpriced and heavy. Don't get your undies in a wad HK fans cause I have owned 3HK products and loved all 3 and I currently own an HK USP45.

6 years 31 weeks ago, 2:19 AM

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Did you consider the Ruger 556, or the new Para TTR [not a piston system but very interesting]?

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6 years 31 weeks ago, 2:23 AM

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piston vs gas operation is the reason i have not moved forward yet on getting an AR,okay if i had the money i would get both, but i noticed you didn't include Rugers 556 on your list of weapons that you looked at,any reason? Just wondering if you heard any bad press on the Ruger.

What i have read on the ACR is that overall it's a very good weapon,negatives were minor,some said it felt front heavy,not ambi on the charging handle(which doubles as the forward assist BTW),and cheap iron sights for the price,oh yah,the price.

go shoot that sucker and lets hear it!

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6 years 31 weeks ago, 5:51 AM

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The Ruger was one of my front runners. I am not an AR armorer, but I know the mechanics of one. I looked at 10-12 different "drop in piston" design style ARs. All very good, but all had the same flaw. Do I think I would have ever noticed the difference, probably not in application of the tool. I will probably never know if the ACR is superior in design to the Ruger, PARA, or any frankenrifle. But again, it was not designed from the ground up as a piston rifle. The one rifle I did not handle was the Robinson XCR. They sued Freedom Group for a copyright infringement, but I do not know what the verdict was.

People on other boards get stuck on the price as well. That is okay, it is not their money. I am guessing that DGI ARs will become less expensive as the market shifts towards piston style ARs. I also know I am paying more money to own one of the "firsts". I am okay with that as well.

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p.s. LLE, I drank the piston kool-aid. I did not consider a rifle that was not piston driven.

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6 years 31 weeks ago, 12:02 PM

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I have almost settled on a Ruger 556, but compared to most of you guys, I do not know doodly-squat about AR's.

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6 years 31 weeks ago, 12:17 PM

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there are a lot of things that I like about the Ruger. The bolt carrier is one of them. Some of the members know that my father is a Ruger man. He collects them. If memory serves me correctly, the Ruger has 4 position settings for the piston. Before I knew about the ACR, it was HK, Ruger, and POF. As I said before, I know HK rifles, but I rely on Ruger for meat. I shoot at average distances and trust Ruger quality. If my opinion counts, I think the Ruger will be a nice addition to your collection.

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6 years 31 weeks ago, 11:21 AM

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as I said before, you made the right decsion with the ACR. Now I'm going to start planning on how to steal it from you.

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6 years 31 weeks ago, 4:31 PM

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like you stole my virginity?

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6 years 31 weeks ago, 5:14 PM

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Clitofalesbo, when

you are finished giving up your virginity to raper, you have a PM sir (take your time...LOL)

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I forgot to mention... the magpul AFG is a cool concept. I was checking it our for my bushy. I ended up going with the troy modular grip because you can keep it full size or make it a snubbie. something about that AFG looks kinds of wierd to me. it also looks like it takes up quite a bit of rail space. have you seen one in person?

oh yeah, a virgin? midget wrestlers who breed shetland ponies dont count?

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6 years 30 weeks ago, 4:22 PM

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I have not seen one, do not even know if they are available yet. It is an idea that intrigues me, but I see more practical uses for the grip pod. I will own all the calibers available eventually, so I see the grip pod as a multi function tool instead of just one application. I also think it uses a lot of rail. I would want to try it before I buy it. I will let you know if I can find one and give a report.

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6 years 29 weeks ago, 5:38 PM

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reaper and the AFG

So greasypaws and I attended a gunshow today. I found an AFG and bought it (35 dollars). It does not fit on my AR. The mounting is a little different.

Lmt Piston, when I say the rifle is not 100 percent ambidextrous due to the charging handle being on the right side only, I refer to the G36 charging handle that has a swivel so that either a left handed or a right handed shooter can pick up the rifle and use it. The ACR as I ordered it had the charging handle on the right hand side. I use LMT for my M4geries and like the quality.

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p.s. I saw an engraved .44 revolver that looked like something out of "The Three Amigos", greasy was looking for a 45 long colt. I pointed it out to him and the "it looks like something ebear would buy" line rolled off his tongue. I could not stop laughing for about 3 minutes. good times. Thanks for hanging out with me today greasy.

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6 years 29 weeks ago, 12:12 PM

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My bad...

My bad, I must have misunderstood what you were getting at.. I understand and you are correct, it can't be manipulated from either side at the same time.. But, I still want one.. Badly!! Lol

6 years 29 weeks ago, 8:29 PM

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Must be the way the stars are aligning or something way less complex, but a Barrett REC7 came acroos my plate today looking for a new owner. First off my collecting has been more in line with the Allied WWII stuff and guns of all types manufactured in the 60's and 70's. No real reason, just happened that way.
Anyway, my buddy called me today (which totally blows away our best half's) and he mention thatt an ACR is at a local shop and it was time to check it out. My point- why hasn't there been any mention of the Barrett entries? I should add that the only black gun I own is a RRA A4 varmint which is just a pleasure to shoot, but my exposure is limited. If it was up to my kids they'd empty one of my safes and fill it full of black, but I'm a little more conservative than that. My bad on the ramble noob, but this Barrett got me thinking...

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6 years 29 weeks ago, 8:50 PM

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if you can... go for it. The REC 7 is a really nice piece. If I were to go with a 6.8 in the AR Platform, I'd probably go with the REC 7 or LWRC M6 series

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6 years 28 weeks ago, 9:26 AM

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in case anyone is interested... $2250

http://sgcusa.com/Rifles-Bushmaster/c85_94/p4089/Bushmaster-ACR-Basic-Black-5.56-(ACR-SS-16M-B)/product_info.html

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 8:31 AM

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So as I stated in the original post, I ordered a Gemtech G5 suppressor for my Masada. Gemtech paid for the tax stamp so I thought it was a good idea. I got a postcard, open face postcard with all the information about where I purchased the suppressor, what it was, the card actually had "enjoy your new suppressor" typed on it from Gemtech with the date of when they sent in the paperwork to the BATFE (you know Behind Another Tax For Exponents).

Am I wrong to think that this open faced post card was a violation of my privacy?

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 9:02 AM

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Thank you for your recent G5 purchase from [gun store name removed] as part of our "Gemtax" tax rebate promotion. We received your qualifying Form 4 on [date removed] and we have attached a check and sent your package to the BATFE on [date removed] (USPS delivery confirmation: [number removed]).

We sincerely appreciate your business. Enjoy your suppressor!

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that is the postcard I received. I did send them an email samD. I might call them if I do not get a response. I do not know what they can do, but hopefully they will change their policy.

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got it today

So I picked up my ACR today. Pretty sweet. i will fire it ASAP, and report. Pictures should be up over the weekend...depending on work schedule.

oh by the way, I got number 69. how cool is that?

first one on the western coast (enhanced model that is)

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6 years 22 weeks ago, 8:57 AM

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do you have the G5 yet?

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6 years 22 weeks ago, 5:37 PM

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not yet reaper. I am still waiting for the guberment to say it is okay for me to have another one...

I put the CQ/T on it and racked my knuckles on the mount while operating the charging handle. I am researching a new mount for the optic. I might design something and send it to GG&G or LaRue. I get my grip pod on friday and my surefire vampire weaponlight (thanks to Hamp for talking me into a light) next friday.

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6 years 20 weeks ago, 2:21 PM

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here it is

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I am unfamiliar with my wife's camera so please forgive the grainy shots. I will add to the pictures when I get my G5.

later

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6 years 20 weeks ago, 2:33 PM

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now get in your truck and come down to the range so i can try it out!

6 years 20 weeks ago, 5:41 PM

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I am looking at 2 weeks from today to make it down there. I have to get the other project you know about next weekend.

later

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6 years 20 weeks ago, 7:27 PM

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we will see

how good these things shoot by trying 500 yards!

6 years 20 weeks ago, 2:07 AM

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Clint, my son, my son, if you R having problems with the camera. If you send me the rifle, I will take the pictures, and send back all the pictures you want. Or email them 2 u! I'll even take photos of me shooting it and send them 2 u!! I would even send pictures of my grand Kids shooting it. I would really like 2 help a Brother in need!!!
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6 years 20 weeks ago, 4:21 AM

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AW if I had only been quick enough could have gotten one for 925.00 on another forum.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?s=e02057d3724610e6ea69...

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That was an April Fools joke if I remember correctly. I think the OP actually documented it. Nice try though.

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6 years 20 weeks ago, 6:05 AM

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thats the comedy

I think Lyle missed his lot in life with the wit and humor he exudes in his photography comments.

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For 925 yeah thats a joke, wish it was other wise but, oh well I can dream. By the way sweet rifle bud if it were mine I don't think I would let any else touch it.

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just for that dockit

if you are ever in seattle, I will let you touch my rifle...lol

I see it as a tool and it will get used as a tool. I have a hard time understanding the idea of buying something practical and then stowing it away never to be used. I am a freak though, the first thing I did to my brand new truck was hit it with a hammer so I would not be worrying about when the first dent would occur.

thanks for compliment dockit

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6 years 20 weeks ago, 5:44 PM

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Magpul nod

my nod to the geniuses at Magpul

magpul nod

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WANT IT!

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
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yeah Clint....You ARE a FREAK!!! but so am I, nice rifle dude....lol

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did ebear make you wear that??? I thought he was a "lights off" sort of guy! Glad to see you figured out the eye relief on the CQ/T. That thing isn't on a quick release mount is it? I'm suprised GG&G doesn't make one. Did it come with those magpul flip ups?

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Nice rifle....

6 years 20 weeks ago, 4:03 PM

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I ordered the quick release from LaRue. Leupold has one that comes with the CQ/T, but the throw levers are on the left side and the "clamp" sticks out farther. With the location of the charging handle, I have found the LaRue mount less cumbersome and the mount is no longer in the way. And yes, the BUIS came with the rifle.

I choose to wear the bag, have you seen ebear? me neither!!!!

good one samD about being a seahawks fan, how did you know I wore the bag all last year, and the year before, and the year before, well you get the idea!!!

clint

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6 years 20 weeks ago, 5:19 PM

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and the new job is going well, we miss ya' around here, least I do. BTW, I am on my way to Seattle as we speak with my whole arsenal to take that rifle away from you....Ha Ha Ha!

Have you shot it yet? I finaly found some ammo that was worth the 'pain' of shooting my Winnie 1300 Hexolit32 2 3/4" expanding slugs www.ddupleks.tv , got the cam corder working again and hope to post a few rounds into water jugs or what not.

Peace out, player pimp!

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6 years 20 weeks ago, 5:37 PM

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hamp da pimp

I miss hanging out on the boards, but new job is stressful physically and mentally. I get up, drive to work, work, drive home, eat and then go to bed.

I have not had the opportunity to shoot the ACR yet, it is killing me. I am taking it out this weekend, unless the super requires us to work on the weekend. We should be caught up and back on schedule, but you never know.

I ain't forgot about my peeps.

peace out macadamia nut

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5 years 32 weeks ago, 2:14 PM

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clitbo

its been 10 months. I'm still waiting on a range report... Has the G5 given you any problems with the gas/cycling?

"Proelium Comminus Auctoritate" "Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."
5 years 32 weeks ago, 2:18 PM

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Reap

Have you been up to the rim lately? I wanna get back out that way.

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5 years 32 weeks ago, 3:23 PM

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nope. I haven't been since Jan and it was F'n cold. We only stayed one night. I just slept in the bed of my truck and it was probably in the teens to low 20's at night. I'm trying to plan something within the next month or so. Its real nice this time of year. Some of my buddies went turkey hunting up there last weekend and said it was perfect.

"Proelium Comminus Auctoritate" "Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."
5 years 32 weeks ago, 3:30 PM

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Reap

I can only imagine.

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5 years 32 weeks ago, 10:24 AM

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ok raper

I have been working out of state for quite a while now and have had very little time to peruse the Gunslot page.
I changed out the Leupold CQB for the Aimpoint micro and attached a PVS-14.
The G5 functions flawlessly. I tested it on suppressed mode and non-suppressed mode, the only difference was the amount of gas blown back.
The rifle weighs in at 13.4 pounds as is, and will weigh a bit more when I get the DBAL A2.
We set up a disc wheel (from the farm machinery) at 350 meters across a small draw. Using 55 grain ball ammo, I was consistently hitting the disc (about 24 inches in diameter for those of you with no farming background). By consistently, I would say 25 out of 30 rounds. There was a slight breeze coming at me, maybe 5-7 mph. It was about 50 degrees and the altitude was around 2000 ft. I am sure that if I were to use 70 grain bullets, the accuracy would improve.
If you plan on employing a suppressor, bring a heavy glove with you. I have added a heavy glove to my range bag after the first firing. We policed our brass and came back to the rifle, the G5 was still super hot so we waited another 10 minutes to remove it for transportation. Just a little FYI to add to your guys' info pool.
We were supposed to have a night shoot after work last week, but by the time night came, we were all exhausted and just slept. We should have done it when we got up at 0300.

clint

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5 years 32 weeks ago, 10:32 AM

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nicely done bo

I assume you got a 1:9 barrel right... since you got one of the first ones before the 1:7 was offered?

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5 years 32 weeks ago, 10:35 AM

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1:9

correct Reaper,
The 55 grains are okay, but the groups tend to spread out at longer ranges. I think the heavier bullet will stay stabilized longer.
When I get the chance to hit the reloading room, we will see.

clint

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5 years 32 weeks ago, 10:38 AM

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well I'm still gonna steal it from you, and ISD's coon can help. That thing will be a bad boy with the PVS14 and DBAL! Have you played around with the PVS at night at all?

"Proelium Comminus Auctoritate" "Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."
5 years 32 weeks ago, 10:45 AM

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PVS-14

Of course, I just want to fire it to see what the suppressor does to hide the muzzle flash. I was carrying it around my neighborhood in seattle, then I remembered I was in the city and people might get a little nervous. I removed the PVS and used it as a monocle at work, it was pretty clear.
I am happy with the NVM. I wish I had the currency to buy the NV/thermal combo, but maybe in a couple of years...
clint

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 7:43 AM

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ISD range report

I was getting 5 shot groups with a 16.5" barrel and suppressor at 50 meters of .5-1 inch. Depending on the temperature of the barrel. I was trying to simulate what a combat situation might be for me (guessing of course). I randomly shot 5-6 of these groups.
The group was not as tight as I like at farther ranges, e.g. 350 meters, but I think that was the ammo, 55 grain coming out of a 1:9 barrel. As reported, we were shooting at a 24" metal disc suspended by an "A" frame. 25 out of 30 bullets on average would hit the disc.
I just upgraded the BUIS to the Troy Di-Optic Tritium folding and like those better than the magpul, but have not been able to shoot with them. I used the t-1 to adjust the BUIS.
I also added a gas pedal, it is uncomfortable with the gripod, so I ordered the Troy modular battle grip and I am going to try the AFG2.

As for the rifle heating up, I do not recall it being any warmer than my 25 year old m-4gery. The suppressor was glowing with the brilliance of a Stan Lee mutant catalyst, but I do not recall the rifle being warm.

clint

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