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4 years 27 weeks ago, 2:59 PM

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I remember Bushmaster telling me that a civilian could not buy a new M4 with select fire, or any auto for that matter, after 1984.

But I thought a civilian could apply for a federal stamp to be able to own an auto. Whats the deal?

Sorry if this is the wrong section.

4 years 27 weeks ago, 3:09 PM

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jeeper2269

First of all your in the right section. Secondly I am no expert but I would say if you have a class III License you probably could buy it. Still im not 100% sure but you could ask Greasypaws, SamD, or our other more experienced members. Any ways welcome to the site. hope you find your answer soon.

4 years 27 weeks ago, 3:16 PM

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what state are you in? A lot of states allow for class 3 ownership if you have the stamp. They are not cheap. a new colt M4 will cost about 17K

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4 years 27 weeks ago, 3:22 PM

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Oregon. And when I was

Oregon.

And when I was checking prices to purchase an M4 with select fire by Bushmaster, their entry type shorter barrel was around $1100.

$17k..... wow.

4 years 27 weeks ago, 3:25 PM

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I cannot remember if I

I cannot remember if I mentioned I am in law enforcement. however, my department will not buy the gun for me, and sell it to me, or even issue me one. We are a small department. To clarify my last post, when i was checking with Bushmaster, that was for purchase by out department, to be used by all officers.

4 years 27 weeks ago, 3:49 PM

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you guys have a PM

4 years 27 weeks ago, 3:56 PM

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Notice! If plan on trying to get a select fire weapon in any state in yhe US,you must make application for a tax stamp thru ATF. Your best bet would find the closest class III federal firearms dealer to get the paperwork. you will have to go thru him to make the transfer.You will also have to have the local sheriff sign off on it.It is a real pain if you live in a state that hates machine guns. If plan on buying the latest model forget it.Only weapons made prior to 1984 gun control act are authorized for transfer.Thats way a 1968 M-16-A2 will cost at least $12,000-$20,000. An UZI from 1980 will run around 8,000. It would be best to contact a Class III dealer
because he is the only one that will transfer it.

4 years 27 weeks ago, 4:45 PM

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Hey if you are getting

a select fire for 1100 dollars, buy 10 of them..haha. I think you got something wrong there.

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4 years 27 weeks ago, 5:03 PM

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select fire

Pkato wrote:
a select fire for 1100 dollars, buy 10 of them..haha. I think you got something wrong there.

This is the one I think I found when i was pricing for our department. I thought it was around $1100, maybe closer to $1300.

http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_xm15_BCWA2F11-5.asp

4 years 27 weeks ago, 7:18 AM

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Yes, the 1100 dollar price is for a law enforcement or government agency. As a civilian, you can only purchase an automatic or select-fire weapon made prior to May 1986. You apply for the NFA tax stamp which costs 200 dollars. It used to take up to six months to get a reply, but the boys and girls at F Troop claim they can get it done now in an average of 28 days. If you get your class 3 license (Special Occupational Taxpayer), you can transfer guns back and forth and if you have a purchase or evaluation request from a law enforcement or government agency, you can order any class 3 weapon, regardless of when it was made. That's why LE/government agencies pay so little. Their supply pool isn't fixed like the civilian side.

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