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5 years 46 weeks ago, 12:38 PM

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just have a few hundred extra rounds layin around so I figured why not ask.

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 12:41 PM

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your G17 is chambered for 9x19mm Parabellum, not 9x18mm Makarov

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 1:07 PM

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yeah

That means a mm shorter correct? so it should work, but thats a BIG should..lol

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 1:21 PM

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Here's what I found:

9x19mm Parabellum
Bullet: 9.02 (.355)
Length: 19.15 (.754)
Rim: 9.96 (.392)
Base:9.93 (.391)
Neck: 9.65 (.380)
Over all length: 29.69 (1.169)

9x18mm Makarov
Bullet: 9.25 (.364)
Length: 18.03 (.710)
Rim: 9.90 (.390)
Base: 9.90 (.390)
Neck: 9.85 (.388)
Over all length: 24.64 (.970)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9_mm_caliber

also, the 9x18mm Makarov is loaded to lower pressure, but uses a larger diameter bullet (9x19mm Parabellum is 9.017 mm (0.355 inches), 9x18mm rounds are 9.220 mm (0.363 inches)), so I think it would be too large for the chamber and barrel of you G17. I would NOT try to shoot it out of your glock.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9x18mm_Makarov

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 12:47 PM

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Dang it Reaper

I never get to give my expertise...........I swear.........Anyhow as Reaper stole my information........what he printed is correct. besides by a pistol that fires the 9x18. CZ 82 comes to mind. And yeah like anyone cares no I don't care if reaper answers first.

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 3:07 PM

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hey nitris

I already answered the question

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 3:12 PM

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Yeah Reaper I got that

Ya did it again.......................hmmmmmmmmmmmm..............wait a minute ok here's one for ya ole buddy what year was the AK put into production?

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 3:26 PM

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That is why he is the "Raper", not the Reaper

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 3:16 PM

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1947

1947

5 years 46 weeks ago, 3:34 PM

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what country?

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 3:35 PM

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Not in production in 47 only a experimental Kalashnikov assault rifle of 1947, also known as AK-47, which is the second model.

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 3:36 PM

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Soviet Kalashnikov

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 3:37 PM

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invented the ak-47 but what does ak stand for??

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 3:41 PM

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Good info I WILL NOT try , thanks

BTW AK47 was first produced by a guy in Russia I am thinkin. ???
I just read a history on the dude. He did not make any money becuase he worked for the government or something.

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 3:42 PM

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 3:50 PM

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AK: Автомат Калашникова or Avtomat Kalashnikova

design work began in 1944, 1946 is was presented for military trials, 1947 it was being used by select groups of the red army. 1949 it was officially adopted by the soviet army.

thank god for the internet

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 3:58 PM

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Use what knowledge you have, not the net.

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 1:45 PM

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NITRIS!!!!!!

if there are rules (i.e no google, no sneaking, no raping etc...) you MUST state them at the time the question is asked!

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 4:05 PM

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There are as many as 100 million AK-47s in the world. At the center of modern armed conflict, the weapons have also been glorified in rap music, gangster films and on national flags. In a new book, author Larry Kahaner traces the weapon's role in modern culture. Mikhail Kalashnikov received no money for his invention. Stoner on the other hand made millions....................Pop quiz What did Stone invent??

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 4:12 PM

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Stoner? M16

I think

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 4:25 PM

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You are correct, but what was it first called?

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 4:36 PM

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That's 2 questions

No fair. I win based on the original single question.

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 4:45 PM

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This is a multiple question answer. The answer is .............. AR-15.

What does AR-15 stand for?? AR-15- Armalite Rifle model 15

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 4:49 PM

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Eugene Stoner while working for Armalite Corporation approached Winchester corporation and the small but powerful .223 Rifle Cartrdige was born. The cartridge was fast, light weight, low recoil, yet could penetrate a helmet per army specifications. Since the design of the rifle caused hot gases from the barrel to get into the bolt area of the gun, Stoner specificed the ammo to use new cleaner burning powders to minimize fouling of the weapon. Colt bought the rights to make the AR15 rifle from Armalite corporation.

The AR15/M16 was introduced during the Vietnam War with a total lack of serious evaluation and testing. Although Stoner specified what kind of powder to use in the ammunition, the army instead purchased ammo using older "ball" powders causing serious reliability issues resulting in the deaths of American boys in combat when their weapons failed.

The current version of the AR15/M16 has a heavier barrel and match grade accuracy. In use all over the world, it is a testament to the talent of Eugene Stoner, that the AR15/M16 remains in use to this day, the longest service life of any rifle in U.S. History.

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 5:30 PM

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with your hands in the cookie jar. Didn't you claim Reaper was cheating by using the net up above? Your quote above is plagerized without attribution directly from this site:

http://www.bobtuley.com/stoner.htm

and your comment about AK-47's in your post a couple more up is from here:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6539945

Kind of the pot calling the kettle black, huh, Nitris?

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 5:42 PM

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cool site

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All i know if ya hear it stay down if u get one keep it

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 5:51 PM

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'I hear the wife's calling dinner. Gotta go!'

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 2:12 AM

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Your right I did quote from these sites, but they were research I had already investigated and read. Reaper just searched at that point. In other words knowledge I already had.

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 9:31 AM

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So now your an expert

So now you know what reaper has studies in the past? Strange, you realy are smart. I just read the whole history of the AK a few days ago. So it would have been alright for me to cut and paste from the story I read? Interesting.

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 12:48 PM

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It's a running Joke. Nobody cares, just poking fun at Reaper. We all use the net for what we need.

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 1:02 PM

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ragging on Nitris. I was just having a litte fun.

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 1:18 PM

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oh

well I like to be an idiot from time to time, I guess this is the time.
My appology nitris :)

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 1:28 PM

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Just look at me profile....I like to have fun.

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