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5 years 42 weeks ago, 12:21 AM

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It might be possible to send a gun to china. There is the idea of smuggeling it in, or just send it one peice at a time that might work too.

5 years 42 weeks ago, 12:58 AM

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Do you have the experience??

3 years 42 weeks ago, 12:16 PM

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Move to the next question,

5 years 42 weeks ago, 1:02 AM

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Snake,

I don't think that you should attempt to smuggle guns into China. Sounds like a bad idea, no use in borrowing trouble. Although we'd be better off exporting to China as opposed to importing everything from there it just doesn't seem like the thing to do at this juncture in time.

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5 years 42 weeks ago, 1:13 AM

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So what should we do? He wants a gun and hes not russian. so we should help the china man some how.

5 years 42 weeks ago, 1:18 AM

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It's up to you I guess. I'm just saying sounds fishy to me. It's too bad he lives in a Communist country. I don't know anything about the legality of it. It would probably be less risky if he hit the black market in China someplace. I'm sure theres one there. The less people invovled the better. I wouldn't do it, thats all.

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5 years 42 weeks ago, 1:20 AM

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We could use some advice here I think.

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5 years 42 weeks ago, 7:25 AM

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when your leg is being severely pulled!!??

Would you really consider violating existing regs that might very well put you in the Federal pokey for a considerable part of your life, just to have fun with some unknown-origin person who posted here?

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5 years 42 weeks ago, 1:24 AM

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HELL ya think I was gonna send a gun to china......HAHAHA!!! No way!! Im not gonna send one of my guns to china. plus the shipping price would probably bankrupt me.

5 years 42 weeks ago, 1:29 AM

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I'm a Chinese man,and I don't think a Communist country is worse than any country,although we still have some shortcomings.But who doesn't?
I just want a gun for collect,not for crime.

5 years 42 weeks ago, 1:33 AM

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where in china are you!what chinese dialect do you speak?

3 years 42 weeks ago, 11:24 AM

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Meng Hao wrote:
I'm a Chinese man,and I don't think a Communist country is worse than any country.

your retarted.......that is all

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5 years 42 weeks ago, 1:32 AM

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guns to china?

it is illegal and i dont even want to discuss it!this is a LEGAL! gun website we dont want to invite trouble or attention on ourselves by discussing this!

5 years 42 weeks ago, 1:38 AM

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Thanks greasypaws

I wasn't sure, I was pretty sure but not 100%. If it's illegal then end of topic to me. But Meng Hao, welcome to our site and I'm glad you are here. I mean no offense, I just speak whatever is on my mind without much care for tact.

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5 years 42 weeks ago, 1:34 AM

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Meng Hao.

I didn't say you wanted a gun for commiting a crime, I said I'm not sure about the legality of it and that it just doesn't sound right. Are you allowed to own firearms in China? We won't get into Communist versus a Democratic countries right now.

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5 years 42 weeks ago, 1:39 AM

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I'm in Beijing now,but I'm from Liaoning Province.I speak the normal Chinese and Northeast dialect.

5 years 42 weeks ago, 1:46 AM

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The law in China says we are not allowed to own firearms .But the cops here won't search your house.
China is not really a Democratic country,I agree with you.But we are trying to be a Democratic country,it needs time!

5 years 42 weeks ago, 1:49 AM

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I am out!

i dont even want to be on the computer with this topic being discussed!later!

5 years 42 weeks ago, 1:51 AM

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what do you mean?

5 years 42 weeks ago, 1:52 AM

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Good Luck Meng Hao

Good Luck. Snake Out Of this Topic As Well. Welcome Though.

5 years 42 weeks ago, 8:18 AM

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?????????? something is very strange here

any who poses a threat to me or my team must die!!!
5 years 42 weeks ago, 9:29 AM

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I smell a FED!

Meng Hao, we are not going to anything illegal. So fergiddaaboutit. Besides it is much better to live in a Republic than a Democracy. The USA is still a Republic although the Socialists and liberals want it to be a Democracy!

5 years 42 weeks ago, 12:59 PM

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case of entrapment, but I would not put it past them.

Let's all switch on the brains, before engaging the keyboard fingers!!

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5 years 42 weeks ago, 1:49 PM

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Meng Hao: No

Just "No," No one here is going to help you get a firearm into China, period. It is illegal in your country to have one and it is illegal in our country to 'export' one to you. It's also against the Terms & Conditions of this site to do anything illegal. End of story. The FBI may very well be interested in this. Let's make sure Quinton knows about this for starters.

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5 years 42 weeks ago, 1:55 PM

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I wasn't here for

the other fella who wanted illegal guns, is this a similiar situation. I was never thinking about helping him out, I was trying to help Snake not do something that would get him in trouble. He said he wasn't going to so I feel better about that. I'm with samD as well, possible fed or I was sort of thinking for some reason it was an anti-gun crusader. If not I apologize but to come out and ask a group of people to do something illegal in an open forum is not very smart and I advise against any other such requests.

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5 years 41 weeks ago, 7:22 PM

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MENG HOW

Mabey you can smuggle it in a book by WI FUCKUM YUNG

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5 years 41 weeks ago, 8:37 PM

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meng hao

cant you just make one yourself, like everything else

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5 years 41 weeks ago, 9:22 PM

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NI HAO MA?

FIRST YOU MUST SNATCH THE BUCKSHOT FROM MY HAND GRASS-SMOKER

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5 years 41 weeks ago, 10:35 PM

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Meng Hao

What are you kidding? Go back to the hole you crawled out of....do you really think we're that stupid/dishonest?

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses
5 years 41 weeks ago, 12:46 AM

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This happens a lot

seems like there are always people trying to piss down our leg. Normal chinese-northeast dialec? Full of it. Cantonese, Meiong lo di? Northeast dialect? What the fuck.
Does anyone else think we are being tested. Last month we had a guy ask about smuggling into Canada. Jerkoffs

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5 years 41 weeks ago, 12:50 AM

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i think it is the feds

checking in on us gun lovers wanting to get us to do something stupid.i am a member of another gun site and they been getting the same kind of shit lately

5 years 41 weeks ago, 4:54 AM

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WHAT THE HELL

HOW STUPID DOES BIG BROTHER THINK WE ARE AND IF ITS NOT THE FEDS THEN I GUESS MENG HAU IS THAT STUPID TO ASK A QUESTION LIKE THAT ON AN OPEN FORUM.

END IT QUICK AND HARD
5 years 41 weeks ago, 3:21 AM

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Hey

You can get all kinds of great knock offs in China...haha, send you one haha....good one!!!

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3 years 42 weeks ago, 11:12 AM

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sorry,i haven't been here for more than a year.
some guys believe that i am a cop or FBI or someting,but i am just a Chinese people.My english isn't very good,so I can't express well.

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3 years 42 weeks ago, 12:19 PM

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hey Meng

How often do you eat Cremof Sum Yung Gi, at the bureau ...i mean in China

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3 years 42 weeks ago, 8:38 PM

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Sorry,I don't know what Cream of Sum Yung Gi is.May be It's a common food but I dont know the English name.As I know,Chinese restaurants in America are making foods for Americans,so the tastes all changed.
What does bureau mean?
.................................................
Oh,I checked on google,the food is full of cream,right?
but in China,most people don't like cream or cheese.It's impossible to eat a meal full of cream.
As I said,the food all changed in America

3 years 42 weeks ago, 10:20 PM

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LMAO

BSC! You crack me up. LOL

Meng Hao, I have friends who are from China, and they have told me flat out if a person there wants a gun. They can get one without any real problem in the least though it will cost $$. Come on, China is the World Leader in Knock Off's.

Ever heard of Norinco?

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 42 weeks ago, 10:28 PM

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Norinco?

I know it.
But they don't sell guns in China,only sell in other countries.
Before 1990s,we can keep guns.
Now,it's illegal

3 years 42 weeks ago, 10:44 PM

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was a pretty good knock off,just a couple minor tweaks and they made a good shooting .45,thank Clinton for stopping them from being imported anymore.

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3 years 42 weeks ago, 11:10 PM

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Norinco does some knock off needing little work for sure. Sad, that ban....

But we sure can import Auto Parts that fail in months, or Child products that can poison our kids and Pet Food and treats that out right kill them.

Got to love Libs...

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 42 weeks ago, 11:12 PM

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Norinco

actually,you can thank Bush Sr. for the Norinco ban.It was nothing more than a small time sanction.They wouldnt ban food and imports of electronics but they wanted to put a bunch of weapons factories out of work.Job well done asshole!I like Norinco weapons.look it up and you will see.

3 years 42 weeks ago, 11:37 PM

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I like Norinco weapons

Didn't realize it was Sr. did it, but I'm with ya on the weapons. Shot a few of them and have not found anything that I didn't care for. I will look into the ban for sure, as it has me wondering if there was any hit of claims pertaining to National Security. Like there was with the US paying for abortions in 3rd world countries for population control under those claims (NS).. ?

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 42 weeks ago, 11:45 PM

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it was nothing more than a slap in the face for the chinese.by that time our government couldnt suspend trading but they wanted to make a point for things like tienamen square(human rights violations) and such so Bush suspended weapons imports.

3 years 42 weeks ago, 12:06 AM

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Ahhh.

Someone didn't look up the definition of "Suspension" me thinks!

Now that you mention it I remember now. *vivid flash of man laying down in front of Tank that kept on keeping on*

Odd play on our part though, considering China is the Poster Child for Human Rights violations and has been for longer than I can remember.
Though for the sake of being totally honest, we've had our own past history, Smallpox, Blanket's and Indigenous Peoples come to mind in one instant.

Maybe if things keep going as they are with US Industrial production, the trade ban on Chinese weapons will be moot. *gave me shivers thinking of that*

on side note: Meng Hao-ran : Chinese Poet

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3 years 42 weeks ago, 3:32 AM

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You said human rights,uhhhh
People in China can do nothing to the goverment,because they control the army,courts,polices,and everyting.But we don't have even one bullet.
We are not citizens,we are shitizens.We don't have democracy,we have democrazy.O(∩_∩)O~

3 years 40 weeks ago, 1:41 PM

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You choose to be so....

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 40 weeks ago, 7:16 PM

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NO

Nobody choose that,we have never see what vote is.

3 years 42 weeks ago, 12:10 AM

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norinco

Norinco
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"Importations of most Norinco firearms and ammunition into the United States were blocked during the Clinton Administration in 1993 under new trade rules when China's Most Favored Nation status was renewed. Concerns about their use by criminals in inner cities was the reason put forward for the prohibition. The prohibition did not apply to sporting shotguns or shotgun ammunition however."

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 42 weeks ago, 6:27 AM

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Bush Sr. banned the evil features not the guns 1989 hence the Mak 90, Clinton banned the weapon.

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3 years 42 weeks ago, 10:59 AM

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Ahhh, ok

dinna see that on any searches I ran and was too late to call Machine Gun Billy.

Now I have more to read up on... heh

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Greasy dare

cast doubt on the my ramblings,fuck with the best,die like the rest,this room is clear.

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3 years 42 weeks ago, 12:53 PM

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Most firearms defined as AWs by the ban were already banned under other laws. Foreign rifles such as the AK-47 and Uzi were banned from importation in 1989, under federal firearms importation law [18 USC 925(d)(3)]. The Unsoeld Amendment of 1990 [18 922(r)] banned using imported gun parts to assemble the same guns in the United States. In 1993, "assault pistols" like the Uzi Pistol were banned under the importation law. In February 1994, revolving cylinder shotguns (Street Sweeper and Striker-12) were banned under the National Firearms Act. When the Clinton ban expires, these guns will remain banned under these other laws. However, the Clinton ban defines "semiautomatic assault weapon" to include these guns as well as others. The definitions [18 U.S.C. 921(a)(30)] are:

Pre-89 (the "Bush Ban), you could have any format you wanted, as long as it wasn't selective-fire. That ban stopped the pistol grip, folding stock, and flash-hider (or threads that would accept a flash-hider). It took a little while, but the pistol grips were replaced with thumbholes, the folding stocks were eliminated, and the threads were eliminated or covered up (with a welded-on sleeve). But (though it was illegal) people started retro-fitting these guns. And the retro-fitted guns weren't illegal, only the act. So then the '94 (Clinton) ban made modifying the guns illegal, and selling or possessing the guns illegal, and without a statute of limitations. So then they pulled out the laws governing the manufacturing of firearms from imported parts, and we got the "compliance parts" fiasco. And if you have noticed in the last several months more importers are calling attention to the fact that their parts kits are for repair only, and not for assembling into a new firearm.

Banning guns because of attachments. Under the ban, various firearms are defined as AWs because they have more than one attachment listed in the ban. Consider the two AR-15s below. The ban says that the one on the left is an AW, because it has a flash suppressor on the end of the barrel and a bayonet mount under the front sight. The attachments have nothing to do with crime and, as the illustrations show, the distinction between the two rifles is superficial.

What this means is the bayonet lugs, pistol grips, even the cleaning rod were removed from the weapon. This is why you have the Mak-90 with thumb hole stocks and neutered barrels.

Clinton banned the weapons from inport in 94, President Clinton signed the 1994 federal Crime Bill into law on Sept. 13, 1994, including the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, which made it a federal crime for a private individual to possess or transfer (sell, give, etc.)

http://clintongunban.com/FactSheets.aspx?i=80&a=Fact%20Sheet

If you look at many of the AK's I have you will find them to be pre-ban Polytechs and Norincos.

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3 years 40 weeks ago, 1:28 PM

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Guns to China ?

Somebodys got a distorted sense of humor. Could be the feds or it could be the Chinese looking for some idiot. Whatever, it was handled the proper way. Don't need ten year in Leavenworth.

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Avoid the Obvious

It seems someone avoids the obvious....

Want a Gun in China, join up...

As far as the oppression, murder, starvation and otherwise gloomy aspects of living their go, MOVE or Start/Join a movement...

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!

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