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4 years 34 weeks ago, 10:10 AM

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carry question

i have read where it it is not smart to carry with one already in chamber. so with that in mind was going to get my wife a revolver to carry. only reason was when she is with our 17 month old she wouldnt be able to "rack" an auto back while holding our baby, but with a revolver she could just grab and shoot. but what would be the difference in letting her carry my kel tec 380 with one already in chamber. both situations it would be grab and shoot. correct me if i am wrong on this. any advise is appreciated

4 years 34 weeks ago, 10:27 AM

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mc24 re: carry

That is what is so nice with the Glock. Carry in chamber and can't make it go off without pulling the trigger.
Very safe, I carry a Glock19. Or get her a double action Semi Auto, although trigger pull is heavy!
Take her to range and rent some different guns spend $50 or so upfront to avoid a $400 or $500 mistake.

4 years 34 weeks ago, 12:38 PM

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I agree with samD, the right gun and training, and continuing trips to the range to keep familiar with the gun is the key. Make it a family affair. Your child or children will learn to respect, have fun, and be able to protect themselves as well.

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4 years 34 weeks ago, 10:51 AM

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This is one of those goes back a hundred odd years things, and was first applied to 1911 automatics. Condition one is one in the breach, the hammer cocked, on safe. Condition two is one in the chamber hammer down. Condition three is no round in the breach hammer down. So based on the old system you could have a lot of arguments re: safty of diffrent carry conditions. bottom line with the new auto's is that they are ALL safe to cary with one in the chamber. That being said, i firmly believe in the extra margin of safty that a visable hammer gives you. All pistols today have a loaded chamber indicator, but there is nothing easer than just looking at a piece and seeing if its cocked or not. An experianced shooter has virtualy the same safty issues with all, but a novice will have odds on there side with A) a revolver, B) an exposed hammer auto.
In your wifes situation, Sam is absolutly correct. Take her to the range and she will be able to tell which she is more comfortable with, increasing the safty odds 100%, and saving you a lot of money. good luck!

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4 years 34 weeks ago, 11:06 AM

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I don't leave the house without one in the pipe, even while carrying my 1911 it's cocked and locked. When you need and we all pray we never do, there are to many fine motor skills involved with having to worry about having to draw cycle a round and then get back on target get a good sight picture and squeeze the trigger. A unloaded gun should be kept at home in the safe.

4 years 34 weeks ago, 11:11 AM

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Amen on that ja0124

Might as well carry a brick!

4 years 34 weeks ago, 11:41 AM

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I agree ja0124

Pretty much all revolvers now, but we don't have a gun in the house that is not loaded. And your right about losing fine finger movements in a stress situation. Obviously the advise i gave (as stated) was based on a situation of a new shoter, who was dealing with a baby as well. An unloaded gun is not a safe gun, its an anchor, and not much of one at that.

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4 years 34 weeks ago, 12:31 PM

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unless you're a police officer, the time you're going to need to use your weapon will more than likely be suprise and you will not have the extra time to draw and cock the weapon. I practise drawing and releasing the safety (all new weapons in mass need a safety) so it's a fluid movement.

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4 years 34 weeks ago, 1:40 PM

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whatever you get for her,she will have to put in range time,i know i'm not telling you nothing new here.I have carried for years and have carried a revolver,a cocked n locked Hi Power,and now a Glock with one in the chamber and am confident about doing it because i practice.

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4 years 33 weeks ago, 10:02 AM

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If you have to use your weapon for real, and you have not trained extensively on racking the slide after drawing, I will guarantee you will drop the hammer on an empty chamber under stress. Whoever said it's better to leave the chamber empty is a moron. Probably retired army NCO.

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4 years 33 weeks ago, 10:36 AM

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Least thats how the thread started, he says hes read not to.. Thats why i explained the old condition 1,2,&3 thing on 1911's and where that might have come from. I agree, but still more comfortable with a piece you KNOW is in condition one. I like having a hammer more than a "loaded chamber" indicator. In any event agree that A)Condition one is best. B)you will do what you practise, if you practise.

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4 years 33 weeks ago, 10:56 AM

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After wiping my weapon down, I lock and load, retract the slide slightly to ensure there's a round in the chamber, drop the mag, top it off, seat the mag, pull down on the mag to ensure it's seated, and leave the gun alone until it's time to shoot or clean.

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4 years 33 weeks ago, 5:50 PM

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Go for a slim frame Glock and have a the heavy 5.5 pound trigger pull changed to a 3.5 pound aftermarket one. The difference is amazing and will definitely improve follow up shots. If she can handle it, I would say go for a .45 or a 10mm as both hit hard and do some nice damage. Federal Tactical HST ammo has beautiful expansion and expands consistently better than anything else I have tried. I would recommend these two and some range time utilizing all 7 of the shooting principles and speed and accuracy will come along fairly quickly. Also if you can journey on down to Front Sight Tactical for a 2 day defensive handgun course you would have all of the confidence you need for shooting pistols. I do not advise a revolver as the hammer tends to snag on clothing. Some will disagree on this, but it all boils down to shooter preference and comfortability. I always advise a round in the chamber as those precious seconds or fractions of a second can equal life or death in a shooting scenario.

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4 years 33 weeks ago, 6:54 PM

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Without one in the pipe....it's an expensive paper weight! It's perfectly safe to carry a hot firearm as long as it secured in a qaulity holster!

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4 years 33 weeks ago, 1:41 AM

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Back in the day when every one carried a six gun and rode horses they didn't carry one under the hammer because if the hammer was struck it could set the round off because there was no block under the hammer seperating it from the primer. So maybe that is what they were talking about.

4 years 33 weeks ago, 1:49 AM

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i carry my glock 23(glock 19 before) with an iwb holster, with the chamber always loaded.

I'm just another damn yankee with a loaded gun looking for some fun!

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