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3 years 44 weeks ago, 1:06 PM

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China is the perhaps the most capitalistic nation on earth. Does it surprise
anyone that China's leaders are engineers, rather than lawyers? Every
American able to do so should visit China. You will see an eerily parallel
world; one that may in a most difficult and irreconcilable way remind you
of the America that was. It is difficult to explain how it feels to drive past
a large new Cadillac dealership in China when the one in your city has
closed. Luxury cars pass you en route to gated estate communities or
expensive flats, Chinese citizens on holiday at the restaurant table next to
you fret over their child's grades. Chinese youth congregate at a teahouse
after school, computers and backpacks in hand. Much is familiar, from
Home Depot to Walmart, to Starbucks which is just as expensive in China
as here. The finest luxury boutiques are here, the vanguard
restauranteurs, the most talented architects. The few beggars you see are
grossly deformed, not the able bodied young men on your street corner at
home. You may come home a bit humbled and feeling a bit less special. It
is difficult living in a nation in decline. The worst part is the feeling that
you are living in a nation of fools; living amongst people who are
destroying America both blindly and with the utmost avarice. Living in a
nation of coddled, soft, ignorant and increasingly dependent masses;
people who choose leaders based on emotion rather than qualification.
Democracy does not guarantee the best man wins.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/goldman-conspiracy-helps-china-beat-us-...

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 1:28 PM

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I agree with this

whole heartedly, I have spent much time in Beijing and Harbin China (my wife is Chinese). For the time being China is different in that the "middle class" there has barely begun to emerge, for now the people are mostly either very rich or very poor but I believe that will change over time. Yes China did remind me of what I imagine America was like as an emerging industrial nation, no matter where you go there is progress all around you unlike the decline that we are seeing here.

If that fucking Obama gets re-elected (heaven forbid) I may sell all of my guns and pack my shit and move to Harbin to live, I could live like a king for the rest of my life there with the equity that I have in my home.

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 2:33 PM

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I have a cousin in Phoenix (the one mentioned in greg gets a liberal spun post) who is wealthy beyond words.. I normally have little use for wealth or those who are wealthy.. (I'm talking serious wealth here guys not just a few toys and a beautiful home) I think we all have been exposed to the "inherited" wealthy.. and if you haven't then count your blessings..

But this couple, and yes they did this as a couple both dropped out of school and ran away to be married at 16, and thier wealth came from honest work, and amazing luck with investments..

At any rate (can't ya see the dementia coming sometimes) they took a trip to China recently, and thier thoughts were the same, all they saw was hard driven motivated people who had there act together.. They spent some time away from the normal tourist places, as they themselves are not into luxury, and said it was like 1950 America.. Also commented on the lack of any able body people who were homeless, and the lack of crime..

I don't think any of us are naive enough to know that China is a repressive society, where your rights aren't just limited, thier CONTROLED by the state.. That being said, its hard to argue with success... And hard to ignore or poor management of trade issues, and debt (dont get me started) that has led to our decline and thier profiting from it..

As an addendum; this couple is a bit obese.. Not sloppy fat.. Just your average walmart (where they shop) and guessing bout half my buds fat.. Anyway it was an experiance for them as often the people on the street would openly stare and point.. This caused them quite a bit of embarrassment, but is a huge in site not only for those who do not know the Asian mind and are raised with the whole polite Japanese model, that is not Asia.. but also that what we consider normal is WAY abnormal to a whole Nation..

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 2:11 PM

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An "antidote" is something you take to counteract the effects of poison.

An "anecdote" is a small story used to illustrate a larger truth.

I just thought you'd like to know. Yes, I know I am. Sorry.

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 2:16 PM

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Greg, once again

you have received a citation from the grammar police, too many more and they may take away your licence...................lol

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 2:34 PM

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unless your British. I don't give out citations, just humiliation.

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 2:53 PM

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Which really goes to show one mans pleasure is anothers (Sam) pain..

I'm more than comfortable with Mike's correction, I'm guessing he could pretty well fillet all our comments in matters of context, syntax, and what the f**k other tex, tax, or grammar rules that i decided were a tad less than interesting at first exposure ..

Im guessing Mike holds his literate self in check most of the time at some risk to his health..

All that and i didn't spell check...shessh again.. least i got the anecodotal right..

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 2:50 PM

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in Aberfeldy Scotland and was expected to spell accordingly, you know colour/color, tyre/tire flavour/flavor licence/license etc. So I get a pass......

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 2:51 PM

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Howdy guys

Anything new? Greg, you done any plinking yet?
Schuy, keep 'em in line! No Mercy!

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 2:56 PM

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Same ole' shit,

how about you Vaq. What God forsaken place are you working in now?

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 2:59 PM

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Too Funny Guys

The Gov't Internet hit squads that track places like this must think we are the biggest bunch of bozos. The grammar correcting and the occasional bitch slap down (is that one word or two Schuyler?) I think it is pretty funny the disfunctional group that we are. I really do enjoy this place. Thanks Guys! And Girl - sorry Ace.

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 3:17 PM

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Yeah manu, i'll

bet we keep 'em guessing!!!

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 3:21 PM

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manu,

at least they have to wade through a buch of shit to find anything of substance.
Then it is questionable at best.
LOL

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 3:00 PM

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Hamp

Same place, looks like mid November for completion.
yay....I know how freaking cold it gets here and how quick it does it.
not thrilled.

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 3:04 PM

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Hey Pard...

Nope bro i haven't had a chance to yet.. We had the g-kids up for the weekend.. Gloria was dog sick last Thursday, and i didn't have the heart to leave her to go shooting, and was afraid to take her as I'd have to start cooking if she took the easy way out..

As it happens she recovered enough to have an ok time with them, but still not great.. Then was sweet enough to give it to me, so I've been super glued to the toilet.. I do have my bags packed with padre plinkers tho, and will post pics soon as i get out there..

Whats up Pard, and stop given Schuy the green light.. I'm waiting for him to correct my last post (yes Mike the a word spelling was intentional, only cause it showed on sp check but intentional)

You still in north Tex or baja Oklahoma as Larry McMurtry calls it...

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 3:06 PM

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Yep, still in southern Canada. Getting the trailer ready for some single digit shit.
It aint in the forecast yet, but I know I'm gonna have to stay for some of it.

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 3:13 PM

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My guess is your right about what ever gov agency is tasked with tracking us.. Yep sorta feel sorry for the agent (s) .. Ok Schuyler is that the correct way to phrase the possible plural..

Schuyler has my grammer nerves on high alert code red..

The bitch slaping contest is open soon as my pard Vaq calls me skippy Manu..

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 3:15 PM

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GP's situation

I have not commented on Greasys dilemma because I have no experience. (thank GOD)
Man, it just hurts me to read shit like that. How are y'all reading it? Sounds like he's moved on and aint lookin' back to me.

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 3:26 PM

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having been through that misery twice nothing phases me anymore. When someone says "I want a divorce" it is serious shit, not to be taken lightly and Mrs GP is now paying the price of that action. I wish GP and family the best.

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 3:16 PM

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Hamp gets an earned pass and it's slap down, two words if it's a verb, adverb, as in you "slap something down" or "slap down something" and one word, slapdown, if it's used as a noun, like a "Friday night Slapdown!" And watch those possessive apostrophes, people!

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 3:23 PM

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Dysfunctional

Just making sure you are on point!

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 3:25 PM

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or is that as well....sheesh.. anyway you got lucky pard and met the right gal first time out. Some of us were not so lucky or smart.. and man divorce gets ugly..

Course not as ugly as FUCKING DIAGRAMING SENTENCES.. Mike stop it or im going to send Snake up to camp out on your lawn..

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 3:30 PM

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I don't see it myself. Let's ask ebear, who will do anything. And, yeah, I'm sorry about Grease. I'm thinking Mrs. Grease is just realizing how badly she fucked up. Seems like pretty shallow pretenses to me. And, yes, I am under pressure to make no mistakes myself here.

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 3:35 PM

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Just asking.

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 3:37 PM

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got to go troops...

That time of night where Fox news/ beer/ loving wife all sorta come together and make life worth living..

Greasy we all hurt for you buddy, and believe me we remember what its like (your not on now but hope this helps later)

Pard you got the helm.. Keep Skipper Sam happy and healthy, Schuyler at piece, Hamp from buying more guns, get TX Lucky to post a pic of TBH for us geezers.. and will see ya all later tonight...

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 3:40 PM

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Sorry, though my usage may be more idiomatic. Geez, now I'm boring myself. I'll stop.

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 3:55 PM

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How did that happen?

I'm on battery power. There is a glitch in the force.

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 3:43 PM

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Schuy

The brake is left of the accelerator, which is the rightmost pedal.
I think you depressed and released the clutch.

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3 years 44 weeks ago, 3:48 PM

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Idiomatic

peculiar to a particular group - fitting definition given the conversation.

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