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6 years 10 weeks ago, 11:50 AM

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If I am going to get my concealed weapons permit, what kind of holster would be the best to own for everyday use?

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6 years 10 weeks ago, 8:16 AM

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That depends on the model gun you plan to carry and what you feel comfortable with. I carry a 3.5" 1911 and use several different holsters for different situations.

6 years 10 weeks ago, 12:46 PM

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what i meant was where would the best place on the body and what kind of holster would you recommend for a Springfeild XD

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5 years 42 weeks ago, 12:15 PM

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Springy XD Holster

sytasyn_syn wrote:
what i meant was where would the best place on the body and what kind of holster would you recommend for a Springfeild XD

I carry my XD40SC in a Serpa paddle holster. Hardly know it is there, and the security feature is second to none for fast presentation.
Serpa is available from Blackhawk.

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5 years 29 weeks ago, 11:18 AM

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After working in plain clothes I tried many types of holsters and after many years I found for my XD40 4in. is a blackhawk leather iwb strong side. This holster allows quick draw from deep cover and retains a secure hold on the weapon. I found that during training that a paddle holster lacked security, easy for bad guy to get, and ankle holster not easy for me to get. I liked my shoulder holster but hard to hide full size gun under light shirt in the summer, I live in AZ. My blackhawk fills the bill and I never leave home without it even to walk dog in yard. I can draw my weapon while sitting in car and driven 600 hundred mi. without discomfort and the price is resonable.....shadow walker ......thats my nickles worth..Be safe Stay alert

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6 years 10 weeks ago, 12:56 AM

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best place on your body? you should buy one for your waist and one to go around your shoulders use either when the situation applies.

6 years 2 weeks ago, 10:09 PM

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i like the waist to me it is out of the way more so than the shoulder.but you should try both see what you like

6 years 2 weeks ago, 10:38 AM

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i use a holster that goes on the interior of my belt line in my lower back. made by predator for a g23.

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6 years 2 weeks ago, 11:19 AM

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What kind of holster?

What type of holster does the least amount of ware on the bluing of a gun?

6 years 2 weeks ago, 11:38 AM

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the least amount of wear would be soft leather... not to be mistaken with rawhide. you can even get leather holster with suede liners on the inside from galco. they are expensive though. I have been planning on getting one for my 1911 for a while, but the one I want costs around $300.

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6 years 2 weeks ago, 12:46 PM

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Reason is the bluing on my new aquired python is 98% and I do not want to take a chance. What about carry for a 4 in? Shoulder or waist?

6 years 2 weeks ago, 2:20 PM

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get both and wear the

get both and wear the holster according to your clothes. The python would look bad ass in a sholder holster.

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5 years 44 weeks ago, 11:55 AM

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SOB

I prefer the small of the back type paddle holster. I am small statured, so high hip is very obvious on me. A forward tip shoulder holster can be acceptible to if the firearm is not to large. I also like the comfort of my Fobus paddle.

5 years 43 weeks ago, 4:08 PM

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I Would personally recommend Any Galco Holster. I use a galco IWB when carry my G27,and there a know problems, no rub and know sweat damage.To me it was easy to break in.Go with Galco and you can't go wrong.

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5 years 43 weeks ago, 4:18 PM

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I am going for a FIST Inc. #42. It is for us that drive alot. It pivots and cants. It clips on & off. Leather. Crossdraw. Don't want people behind me tempted to draw my Glock 19.

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5 years 43 weeks ago, 5:56 PM

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I just picked up a phoenix galco for my Python 4". Its allow a cross draw. For a L frame gun I recommend a high ride pancake for the small of the back. For large frame I will get a vertical shoulder holster.

5 years 43 weeks ago, 8:07 PM

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For everyday and summer time carry and no frills and maintance free check out uncle mikes in side the waistband holsters. You carry them behind your back just above the wallet pocket. If you are right handed get a left handed holser which turns the butt of the gun around so you don;t have an awkward reach which puts strain on the shoulder, so when you draw, you just turn your hand,palm facing behind you and grab the gun out.

5 years 43 weeks ago, 3:59 PM

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Good tip

Thats a good tip Craigman, I've always gone with the left hand holster for my back carry, but thought I was just weird.

5 years 43 weeks ago, 5:34 PM

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Good tip holster

I've always carried all my firearms this way for a long time now. When i worked at the gun shop people would notice my cz75B9mm looking kinda backwards.When i explained to them about the way the average person draws his or her weapon they tryed it and all agreed that is was most comfortable. I must have sold a shit load of them uncle mikes holsters, and for 10.99 plus tax you couldn't go wronge.

5 years 43 weeks ago, 6:53 PM

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I use a couple different types depending on my clothes and what i am doing. I have a paddle type Fobus holster and an uncle mikes inside the
waistband. I carry the XD40m and both are very comfortable. Blackhawk makes a very nice carbon paddle too

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5 years 42 weeks ago, 10:35 AM

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Fobus Paddle

What I like about my paddle is that whan I get into my vehicle, I can pull the holster and reposition it for driving and not have to sit on my weapon where it is unavailable.

5 years 42 weeks ago, 12:27 PM

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I'd like to try a few others, Mitch Rosen. BlackHawk. Galco. or a model in Kydex.

5 years 29 weeks ago, 11:26 AM

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Shoulder Holsters

Shoulder holsters are okay if you spend a lot of time in your car, but have severe disadvantages any other time. As most armed confrontations occur at bad breath distance, a shoulder holster leaves you very suceptible to having your drawstroke impeded by a grappling-type attack and even having your arm pinned when you try to reach across your body to draw. A strongside hip holster is a much better choice for those of us who spend more time outside our cars than in. It is much easier to protect your weapon, the holster tends to stay in the same spot versus a shoulder holster which can shift dramatically in a scuffle, and draw time is much faster given the same level of security with the two holsters

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5 years 29 weeks ago, 12:24 PM

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Sage advice..........

always followed by yours truly. My favorite for the Glock is the Blackhawk Serpa belt/paddle interchangeable. It took some draw practice to get proficient, but the Serpa lock works great and is very secure.

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5 years 29 weeks ago, 12:32 PM

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Serpa is good

I used a Serpa holster on the drop leg platform for my M9 last deployment and it worked well. I don't use retention devices for my concealed holsters, sacrificing some security for speed.

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5 years 29 weeks ago, 12:40 PM

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1.5 seconds, including [the infamous]2 rounds to you-know-where.

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5 years 29 weeks ago, 12:45 PM

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Timers

I have never shot with a timer other than someone using a stopwatch. Maybe I should try one.

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5 years 29 weeks ago, 12:48 PM

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Tough guys

"Timers? Screw timers. Is someone going to be holding a timer when the balloon goes up and you have to put two in their chest and one in their head? Slow is smooth and smooth is fast and fast isn't smooth and slowly smooth is faster than smoothly slow and smooth legs go fast and slow legs get smooth and-" what the hell is wrong with me?

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5 years 29 weeks ago, 12:55 PM

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you!? You are having a bad day. If you need more help, I can send you the inkblots [samD calls them the "dirty pictures"]. When you tell me what you see, I can prescribe a cure.

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5 years 29 weeks ago, 1:04 PM

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Inkblots?

Are you talking about the actual Rorshach (sp) test, or nudie pics? NUDIE PICS!!!

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5 years 29 weeks ago, 1:11 PM

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COME-ON MAN!!!!!

everyone knows the Rorschach Ink blots are really dirty pictures!!

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i vote nude pic also

any who poses a threat to me or my team must die!!!
5 years 29 weeks ago, 12:52 PM

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devices. We got ours for CAS practice, but it is very useful in both dry and live concealed carry practce. For dry practice, you need a partner to slap the microphone at the trigger pull. My wife is very good at that.LOL

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5 years 29 weeks ago, 2:51 PM

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Belt over IWB.

I prefer my belt holster over my IWB holster although both poke me in the ribs. Small of the back is more comfortable to carry with the IWB but if you get knocked on your back you are now lying on your gun. I go with strong side as best I can with both, it's a little harder in the winter as I put on a little insulation during the holidays. The belt holster to me is more comfortable over all, although wearing longer shirts that are usually long sleeve during the summer is a bit of a give away as well as damn hot. During winter when your indoors for long periods of time with heaters on too high it can get uncomfortable as well. Like most people have already said, holster needs to fit circumstance and clothing.

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SOB holsters

I've tried SOB holsters in the stores, and even under ideal conditions, getting a shirt or jacket out of the way for a draw was not easy and the gun kept catching on the shirt. I'm sure practice would rectify this, but there is practically no control over your gun and draw times would be terrible compared to strongside hip carry.

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5 years 29 weeks ago, 3:20 PM

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[if you are right handed] You are muzzle-sweeping your right hip, before you are pointed out toward the target. THIS IS NOT desirable when you are under the pressure of a real gunfight.

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 8:03 PM

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This is a very interesting topic, as I really haven't given it that much thought. I am due to take my CCW class in 2 weeks, so maybe I need to do some dry practicing before my class. I have heard that the instructor that I am going to have does kind of like a speed shooting thing where you have 2 magazines loaded with 5 rounds each and you have to fire till empty, drop the mag, then reload the other one and fire it till empty. Sounds like fun. Of course I may get a little embarrassed at my speed!!

5 years 27 weeks ago, 10:04 PM

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of dry practice, with your holster and mag pouches in place, two EMPTY mags, and a carefully checked and UNLOADED pistol [mag checks and chamber check are mandatory]. The rule for dry practice includes NO ammo in the same room, and all ammo put away in a gun safe or a similar place. No distractions are permitted, including no other persons. You must control your environment.

Drills should include practice of all positions of the draw, presentation and return of the pistol to holster; the entire draw wearing a concealed carry garment; the entire draw and trigger operation aiming at a safely placed Silhouette target.[Chest cavity and ocular/cranial cavity]. Incude 3, 5 and 7 meter distances, if possible. Practice after-action movement and scanning. Lastly practice the draw/fire with a tactical reload as many times as necessary to smooth out your capabiliity. 15 minutes at a time is fine. Practice perfectly and you will fight well, despite being degraded to about 50% of your best performance, when you are under free flowing adrenalin.

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5 years 27 weeks ago, 9:23 PM

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Don't worry about your speed. I know that saying about slow is smooth smooth is fast or whatever it is sounds gay, but it's true. When I started out training with my pistols versus plinking, I was worried about speed and dropped magazines while reloading quite a bit. Once I slowed down and got the muscle memory down, I got much faster. Don't be embarrassed if you are a little slow at first.

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5 years 27 weeks ago, 10:09 PM

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I unload my gun and put the mag in a drawer in the same room. I am a dangerous guy DON'T MESS WIT' ME, MAN!!!

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To slow

shoot you before you can get to your mag, or have your mag in your pistol. I'm slower now that I'm older. LOL

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your sense of humor. That punch line, IMO, lacked humor, and reflected foolish, immature bravado. It suggests the possibility of an imminent, unhappy ending, or at least your coronation as an ND expert.

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5 years 27 weeks ago, 10:23 PM

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Too slow?

My gun is unloaded when I'm home. Around other guns. In the middle of nowhere. With dogs. In southern AZ. Only while I practice. I'M CRAZY!!! Wait, no I'm not. Where am I? I can't see. Urp.

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Fortunately for me, your opinion means about as much as that of a wet fart. If you don't like my sense of humor, feel free to refrain from reading my posts. And what the hell is "possibility of imminent"? It's either possible or imminent. My IQ is higher than my shoe size, so if I unload my gun, it's unloaded. I don't need to have my ammo in a different room. I'm sure if a magazine is able to jump from a drawer into my gun, having a closed door won't stop it. So here's a thought; You sir, need to mind your effing business. I am not impressed with you, as you are nothing more than a collection of pixles on my computer monitor. Perhaps I have taken this too far, but there is a difference between having a rational, intellectually stimulating debate in which I must actually research my points, and having some old guy dress me down for what he feels is a violation of some sort of humor protocol. Take your time, order when ready, thank you, please drive through.

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I'm sorry sir

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I will take your suggestions under advisement. However I must point out that your diagnosis of the english phrase "possibility of an imminent"[occurrence] is defective. For example: There is, in the real world, a possibility of an imminent occurrence of sunspots.[That simply means it may happen soon].

I am mystified as to why a smart fellow like you is so defensive from having read a relatively innocuous opinion about safety practices. My posting had no objective of dressing you down or convincing you to be impressed with me. It was merely a method of describing what appeared to be a seriously cavalier attitude/behavior, that you apparently are proud of, and tacitly might be recommending to other less experienced readers. Under such circumstances, I will not "mind" what you call my "effing business", because it is the other readers' business also. You have already endorsed a dangerous and immature questioning of the reasonable necessity to provide for the public's safety with competency training. And now we see a flippant almost adolescent view of your own personal safety.
As far as I am concerned, these kinds of things will not stand without commentary.

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I was talking to you and I had no ideal that I was talking to LLE. I forgot a couple of words when I wrote you. Old age getting to me. LOL I forgot to start the sentence with, If I was a robber, I could shoot you before you got to your mag, or put your mag into your pistol. Dogs are no problem to keep quiet. Was what I was tring to say. I guess we have some people on here that have no sense of humor.

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Hah. Good luck keeping my dogs quiet. I don't think death could shut those fuckers up. As for needing to get to my magazine, I don't. My M4 stays loaded. If it weren't for that damned remote Border Patrol camera tower 400 meters from my house, I'd welcome an intruder so I could begin fertilizing my garden early.

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Well, now that you told me about the tower I can shoot you from there. LOL Plus, get rid of your dogs for you.

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Oh yeah?

Well you better hope your round can get through the Star Wars system I bought at the Ronald Reagan military surplus store, 'cuz if not, I got my 120mm mortar registered and TRPs already established. That tower is TRP A004, immediate supression, fire for effect, shot over, shot out, splash over, splash out, end of mission old jarhead destroyed. HAH HAH HAH, I RULE OVER ALL I SEE!!!!

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if you have all of that just so you can rule over all that you see.LOL You are a riot. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!dogface!!!!!

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5 years 27 weeks ago, 11:35 PM

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Dogface?

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MARINE-Muscles Are Required, Intelligence Not Essential
MARINE-My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment.
Q: Why do marines wear name tags on their trousers?
A: So the squids know who they're screwing.

Inter-service rivalry is great.

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5 years 27 weeks ago, 11:44 PM

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when I was in the Corp. Yes, inter-service rivalry is great. Thanks, Dogface for the new infor. LOL

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5 years 27 weeks ago, 11:40 PM

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Well good for you, LLE

Feel free to comment, but my statement on the importance of your opinion to me stands. Good job.

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5 years 27 weeks ago, 11:51 PM

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the point is, my opinion and concerns might be important to others.

Too old to fight, Too old to run, guess that's why I carry a gun! "would someone show this asshole the way out of town".[Rabbi Avram Belinski-aka "The Frisco Kid"]
5 years 27 weeks ago, 11:58 PM

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LLE

You obviously fail to understand sarcasm and you fail to see my attempts at humor. This is probably due to the fact that posts online do not capture the inflection that would be obvious during verbal exchanges. I do not, in fact, think it is wise to kill someone for looking at me funny, I do not think I am crazy, I do not have a 120mm mortar system with established TRPs, and the "Don't mess with me, man" comment was taken from Bernie Mac. This is my attempt to avoid becoming unprofessional, although that may have already happened. It would be difficult for me to care any less about your opinion than I already do. The only reason I am even responding to you is because I am on shift tonight and bored. Welcome to McDonald's, may I take your order? Don't ask, 'cuz I don't know.

"I have always been a soldier. I have known no other life. The calling of arms, I have followed from boyhood. I have never sought another." From The Virtues of War, by Steven Pressfield.

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