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3 years 37 weeks ago, 3:09 PM

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I plan on insulating my shop walls & installing paneling - rather than drywall. The shop is not heated and I'm concerned about moisture in the winter. Recommenations for insulation - glass or styrofoam? Paneling wood or masonite?

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3 years 37 weeks ago, 3:18 PM

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Will you ever heat the shop? Use a portable heater etc? How big is the shop? what type of exterior siding do you have on it?

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3 years 37 weeks ago, 4:22 PM

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Clint asks some good questions. I'll just add to his.
What type of heat might you use? (propane, diesel, electric, wood)
What is your average winter temp in January?

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3 years 37 weeks ago, 5:40 PM

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do u own the shop>? u can spray on the stuff to the walls and ceiling but not sure how much $$$$ u waz to put in to it?Plus the floor cold mean frozen feet need to put some thing there to.good luck. TY

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3 years 37 weeks ago, 8:04 PM

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use fiberglass insulation,poly vapor barrier,and sheetrock,paneling won't hold up well,hot or cold.Or use 7/16thsOSB plywood @ 5.00 per sheet if you want a finished look,it is a garage.

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3 years 37 weeks ago, 7:42 AM

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That is exactly how we built out Garages making bedrooms and offices here in Florida. Not sure about the spray insulation because the only times I've seen that used was doing fire proofing and insulating while doing Red/Green/Black Iron.

I wasn't sure how it was done up there where there is such a climate change between winter and summer. But it's the same.

Not being a dick or trying to sound flippant. But you can go to the local Home Depot and they sell a Orange Book about 4 inches thick with most of the projects you might run into that you wouldn't have to have a contractor do for your home. That might come in handy for reference along with any help you get here.

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3 years 30 weeks ago, 6:39 PM

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Do we tell you how to make the damn holster, NO So why do you say how they do the stupid shit they do in florida, Now that's being a dick, which you are not and I do not think I am, or anybody is on this site. But I have also seen guys in fl, put towels in doorways for doors, and real contractors put chinese drywall with lead in them enought to cause the new house inhabital. You could smell it a mile away. It did not break right, the paper ripped instead of a clean break when scored and then the smell? There was no excuse, we have a US GYPSUM plant right here next to the electric plant off rt41 and Big Bend rd before apollo beach. They even give free tours and price is extra cheap with all the Gypsum around here. Hell they were shipping it to North Carolina from here, and all of a sudden some contractors got greedy and did not know what they were doing and the price was so cheap, that cookie cuuters houses became a household millionaires dream. Now they made a settlementand as soon as they devide the money up to the right people, they will have their homes back. But the Boom is on and coming becaus all have to be gutted and pipes and electric etc and the rest sprayed with a solution that is one solution so far that seems to dissapate the lead poisining, but what about the furniture and guns & knives & airlooms etc. But get ready the state is goig to take off again with housing and new plant for 20% ethenol for florida only. 300 million already for that to start. JC

3 years 37 weeks ago, 8:52 AM

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Shelby said to say thank you very much. Well she was a bit more ecstatic than that but I'm not going to type it all exactly how she put it...

But she was very excited and extremely happy, the envelope, note and bills are in one of her books already and shes been reading everything she can come across on the net about Vietnam and the War.

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3 years 30 weeks ago, 6:02 PM

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to funny man,good deal.

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3 years 30 weeks ago, 6:44 PM

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Have a few dong's in your hand lol.Hey sorry to hear about your girls pain my teeth are hurting but I got a bad cold too.......TY

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Ishootdaily wrote:
Shelby said to say thank you very much. Well she was a bit more ecstatic than that but I'm not going to type it all exactly how she put it...

But she was very excited and extremely happy, the envelope, note and bills are in one of her books already and shes been reading everything she can come across on the net about Vietnam and the War.'

She also got a kick about the money being called Dong's as any young girl would I suppose. LOL

Told her mother when she got home from picking up Shelbys pain pills (she had her wisdom teeth pulled yesterday) " Mom! I have a DONG in my hand!" My wife about lost it...

LOL

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3 years 30 weeks ago, 6:46 PM

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Sure I had to beg to get you to tell me if she even got it. Just kidding Johnny by and that last post about being a dick, you are not! But gotta go, I think good news about sister and it has been a hell of a month, later and do not want to be rude, to any, LBC

3 years 30 weeks ago, 8:37 PM

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actually I work very hard to be a good guy, being a dick comes easy... lol

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3 years 36 weeks ago, 12:02 PM

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It depends on the shop size. The house we built at college is 52' so we used R13 insulation. R30 is for attic area's.

My Carpentry Text Book has a map with 6 zones. Indiana is in zone 5 so my book recomends

Floors are R30^2
Walls are R19^2
Ceilings are R38

This may or may not have helped but this was what my book says.

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3 years 30 weeks ago, 5:58 PM

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Whatever is on the outside does not matter, as long as water tight and all. They have a spray on product that is black and is a sealant. It goes a long way by the can and just spray the corners where the plywood or outer side meets inside studs. Roll insulation with no paper and if 24" center or 16" center for stud placement and a roll that is already cut for you in 8' lenghts. Then Buy a 2 mill roll of clear like vapor barrier and staple it to the studs and cut an x with a razor knife at electric boxes etc. The lower the ceiling the better because heat rises and if you can, you can buy a roll of aluminum Duct and a couple of couplers to fit and tap into forced air heat from existing home and just run a new duct to you attached shed or garage, and use duct tape too. and those plastic ties, and one vent from floor. even if you just put down a 2 by 6 floor run the duct where you want before the plywood. 1/2" is okay for plywood if 16" centers. Like I said keep ceiling low, if need be, cut a crawl space for storage and do not waste heat. I did the same but made an out building and heated the whole building 12 by 20 with the lowest setting on a kerosene heater, basically a wick about a foot around and filled twice all winter. Had to cut a Ridge vent to let heat and keroscene smell out or die, that is how hot it was in there. Mine was a greenhouse, all glass, roof and all. Went to minus 30 without windchill 4 months a year. used it for everything not only plants, but gun building reloading you name it. But if attached to house already or part of garage you got it made with what I just said. Moisture is no problem with this stuff in a can, they even advertise it now on tv. We used to seal the inside of gutters and around windows, along chimneys anywhere, it works like a skin and sticks to anything, just cannot think of the name, for the life of me. even had a hole in a gas tank in truck and gas dripping out and sprayed it on while wet and it stopped the leak and had truck for two years after and still did not leak! The first way is for attached to house and heat scource already there and second way you just light the heater on as low as you can go with ventalation. If the first is your way go to a insulating co. and ask for some scraps or help and they will probably not even charge you, then go to a heating guy or co and do the same for flexable duct and connections and he will do the same, or give you a break at least or have a piece that just might be enough for you. Nice to meet you and sorry for being late. I did a lot of building in my life. As well as many other things. John, JC

3 years 30 weeks ago, 2:04 AM

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This construction question from 'cbxjeff' is not a forum the anti-guns groups would ever dream would be posted by us horid redneck military, ex-military and non-military folk. Someone from a DC lobby group ought to paste cbxjeff's forum on an anti-guns site asking them to respond to how WE give a damn!

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