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5 years 45 weeks ago, 7:24 PM

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Cool Glock Info

I posted this reply in another thread but I figured I would make a completely new thread so everyone got a shot at readying it.
Great stuff from Gabe Surez
When I first heard of these from a student, I gotta confess, I thought, "Oh great...another goofy idea from those who can't leave well enough alone".

Then I began to experiment with the possibility of suppressing a 9mm Glock for an experiment/concept we are working on. I needed a threaded barrel. Lone Wolf was the place everyone was recommending. I got a threaded barrel for my Glock 17, tested the hell out of it, and pronounced it good. So good in fact, in terms of fit, finish as well as accuracy, that it now lives in my Glock 17 carry gun.

One thing led to another and One Source became a Lone Wolf dealer.

And then the Elections of 2008 happened. Black Tuesday was surpassed only by Black Monday, and everywhere ammo, rifles, pistols and just about everything one could use for Second Ammendment type activities flew off the shelves and into the hands of terrified Americans who had thought that "some day" they would get that AK, or that Glock.

The fear of "The Obama" reached even into ammunition sales. And as demand increased so did price...kinda like an OPEC Arab playing with gasoline prices.

Right along that time frame, the XO decided to keep a 33 round magazined Glock 17 close at hand to back up her EDC (every day carry) Seacamp. And simultaneously the S.I. Staff began our SMG experiments and development. As well, data that I kept receiving from various sectors of the community (armed professionals, ammo makers, as well as the scientific terminal ballistics community) led me to the educated conclusion that all handgun ammo, in terms of terminal ballistics, is about the same. There may be a very slight edge shown by larger diameter bullets, but to me, that slight advantage was not worth the difference.

For uniformity with the XO, availability and cost of training ammo, selection of fighting ammo, and ammo capacity on person, I decided to consolidate my calibers, as far as pistols and SMGs go, to 9mm.

But I had a bunch of Glock 22s and one 23 that I did not want to "just stick in the safe", and at this juncture in our history, I have no desire to sell any fighting guns. Enter Lone Wolf.

I noticed that Lone Wolf had a barrel that would allow a 40 caliber pistol to be converted to a 9mm merely by swapping barrels. You did not need to change out any internals, and the only other thing needed was a 9mm magazine. Reports from WT were that this was fine and it worked and reliability was good. My preliminary testing...casual testing with a Lone Wolf Conversion Barrel...corroborated this. But I wanted to do more.

This week I took 1000 rounds and the Glock 23/19 out to my training area. Included in this was Blazer, Corbon Powerball, Corbon DPX, Winchester Bonded, Winchester SXT, Sellier & Bellot, Wolf, and even a few disgusting lead reloads I had left over from about 20 years ago.

I went through iteration over interation of our Close Range Gunfighting and Advanced Close Range Gunfighting drills (no point to just standing there burning ammo like some Gun Fudd). In 1000 rounds I had one failure to extract with Blazer 9mm. All other ammo functioned perfectly. There was no discernible change in POA/POI inside ten yards. I will shake the barrels out at distance at a future date.

All I can say is that I am very happy with this barrel and give it a solid thumbs up. The Glock 23 turned Glock 19 will accompany the EDC Glock 17 as the number two in the brace.

Those of you similarly interested for whatever reason, give this barrel a try, you won't be disappointed.

LONE WOLF CONVERSION BARRELS

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 10:36 AM

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huh?

I don't get it other than this guy sounds like a tool shed to me.
Did he say that bullet size and load all have about the same kill ablility? Or am I missing something?
and he converted to 9mm on purpouse?

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 5:11 PM

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Gunnin88 wrote:
I don't get it other than this guy sounds like a tool shed to me.
Did he say that bullet size and load all have about the same kill ablility? Or am I missing something?
and he converted to 9mm on purpouse?

I would never call a man as dangerous as Gabe Suarez a toolshed. He is probably one of the best if not the best tactical trainers in the world. He trains in pistols, rifles, shot guns, and hand to hand and has people fly from all over around the world to learn from him. Do a web search on the guy, go to youtube look for his name, but he is far from a tool shed.

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 10:39 AM

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hmm

this begs the question for me. If you can changes a 40 to a 9mm can it go the other way? Can I make my 17 into a 40?

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 10:49 AM

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no

you can only go down in size, not larger.
you can convert .45acp to 10mm, 400 corbon and 40 super.
you can convert .40 to .357sig, 9mm and .22.
you can convert 9mm to .22.
(you need a ned slide to convert anything to .22)

the slide is milled out for a barrel of a certain diameter, you can add a smaller barrel with thicker walls, so its the same diameter, but can't add a larger barrel to a slide that is sized for a smaller barrel. also the chamber head space wouldn't be large enough.

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 10:41 AM

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Gabe

hillbilly77 wrote:
For uniformity with the XO, availability and cost of training ammo, selection of fighting ammo, and ammo capacity on person, I decided to consolidate my calibers, as far as pistols and SMGs go, to 9mm.

But I had a bunch of Glock 22s and one 23 that I did not want to "just stick in the safe", and at this juncture in our history, I have no desire to sell any fighting guns. Enter Lone Wolf.

He converted to 9mm for the cost and availability of training ammo.

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 10:42 AM

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Gunnin

No, you can only go down in Cal.

5 years 45 weeks ago, 10:58 AM

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okay

Thanks for the info. I had looked at a 22 conversion but found I could just buy a Walther P22 for about the same price.

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 11:13 AM

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yeah

the .22 conversion are pretty expensive because you need the new slide, barrel, and mags.

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 12:07 PM

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yeah

I would hate to get used to shooting my glock with 22 rounds as it would obviously be much diffrent when I went back to 9mm. Not to mention the wife wants a P22 anyhow. So many guns so little time and money :(

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