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1 year 36 weeks ago, 8:44 PM

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Well now it seems that the guy in Colorado was bat fucking nuts. He was seeing a shrink and she was so disturbed that she wanted to have the school's special response group to address the issue. He dropped out before the group could meet so they never did anything. So here is my question, were does the right to privacy end and good sense begin. He would not have been able to buy the guns had the shrink reported this and action taken. What say you?

1 year 36 weeks ago, 9:28 AM

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Instead of banning guns and hi cap mags why don't the feds make it mandatory for mental health officials to report that a person is under treatment or suspected of mental imbalance to the feds so that they cannot purchase firearms, ammo etc. without being vetted by proper medical personnel. If found to be dangerous then maybe they should check the guy out thouroughly. The theatre shooter. the arizona shooter and others, could have been nipped in the bud. Most people know someone who appears to be a wack job by everyone in the neighborhood, but nothing happens until that someone does a horrible crime. Do the feds really expect a wack job to admit they are under mental health treatment on the ATF gun purchase form? Are you now or have you ever been under medical care for mental issues? Oh no not me. Okay we will take your word on that.

1 year 36 weeks ago, 12:26 PM

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over the age of 16 to carry a loaded gun, shotgun, rifle or pistol.
Marksmanship will winnow out the unfit.

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1 year 36 weeks ago, 8:41 PM

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I am a very independent and private person. What I own and do is my business. However, I also see how other will judge me based on perceptions. I own a S&W M&P-15, the same as this guy. I was talking to a friend of my folks and she said that anyone who owned one of these was just as sick as that guy. She would restrict what I am able to own and buy due to the actions of someone else. This is the perception of many in our country that people only own hi capacity mags or ARs so that we can shoot up a theater. My reasons for owning what I do are my own.

I prefer a limited government as laid out in the constitution. So having some random person decide if they think I'm crazy doesn't sit well. We just need to use the good sense that God gave us. Most criminals, terrorists, and wackos do follow observable profiles. Yes I said profiles. We don't need to ban guns or mags. We don't need to have everyone who owns or is going to buy a gun undergo psycho analysis. Just use science, logic, and reason to identify red flags. Enough red flags and they get a closer look.

No matter what we do, we will never stop all bad things from happening, but this pisses me off. We have become so politically correct that we avoid possible confrontations. If they thought he was unstable, then say so. What would have been the worst that could have happened? Would it have been worse then what did happen?

1 year 36 weeks ago, 9:56 PM

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a lot of innocent lives.
Our courts from top to bottom have holes that criminals and loonies keep falling through. If I had my way the judges, prosecutors and defense attorneys that let a guilty vicious criminal go free would each have to serve out that criminal's remaining prison term.

I would not willingly undergo a psych analysis before buying a gun. In years gone by and in a earlier career I worked in the mental health field as a paraprofessional couselor. The pros with the sheepskins were not trustworthy. It was all "me" "me" "me" "me". Any conflicts of opinion and they'd go into crybaby mode.
I admit that I was surprized to learn that the threater shooter's shrink tried to get something done about him. Most of them piously claim "Dr - Client privilege" and refuse to do the right thing regardless of how dangerous the "client" is. I had a few cases that would turn your hair white.

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