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5 years 45 weeks ago, 4:30 PM

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Stewart M. Powell,Jennifer A. Dlouhy, Houston Chronicle

Sunday, April 19, 2009

(04-19) 04:00 PDT Washington - --

The last time a Democratic president and a Democratic Congress banned civilian sales of some types of military-style assault weapons, it took American voters barely seven weeks to hand Republicans control of Capitol Hill for the first time in 40 years.
One of the prominent casualties of that backlash was the sponsor in the House - Rep. Jack Brooks, D-Texas, who lost his seat in Congress in 1994 after 42 years of service.

That lesson wasn't lost on President Obama when he faced pressure from Mexican President Felipe Calderon to revive the defunct weapons ban to help combat drug cartel violence along the U.S.-Mexico border.

In Mexico last week, Obama insisted he had "not backed off" his campaign promise to make the expired ban permanent. But he bowed to political reality, nonetheless.

"None of us are under any illusion that reinstating that ban would be easy," Obama said. "And so, what we've focused on is how we can improve our enforcement of existing laws."

Politicians and experts agreed Obama had no choice but to resist Mexican officials' entreaties. He couldn't win a battle in Congress to resurrect the ban.

"We've reached a point where there aren't many people who will stick their political necks out to vote for sensible gun control," says Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., the second ranking Democrat in the Senate leadership.

Earlier this year, the Democratic-led Senate dealt a body blow to the gun control movement, when 22 Senate Democrats, led by Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., joined 40 Republicans to shelve firearms restrictions in the nation's capital.

Merely hinting at renewal of the assault weapons ban provoked 65 House Democrats, many from swing districts, to warn the Obama administration that they would "actively oppose" any revival.

Democratic Sens. Jon Tester and Max Baucus of Montana - a bellwether Western state carried by Obama - warned they would "strongly oppose any legislation that will infringe upon the rights of individual gun owners."

Added to that, Obama risked squandering political capital and distracting attention from pressing domestic issues such as economic revival, overhauling the financial system and health care reform.

Not even prominent Democratic calls for resurrecting the ban in the wake of the slayings of four police officers in Oakland and three police officers in Pittsburgh could budge the new president.

Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., Senate author of the 1994 assault weapons ban, said on CBS' "60 Minutes" on April 12 that she has no intention of reintroducing the assault weapons ban - for now. Eventually, Feinstein said, "I'll pick the time and the place, no question about it."

The latest nationwide polls show "little evidence that gun control is at the moment a high priority for Americans," says the Gallup Poll's "Pulse of Democracy."

Barely 49 percent of those surveyed said they wanted tighter laws governing firearms sales - the lowest percentage since 1990.

Americans remain evenly divided on whether to make it illegal to manufacture, sell or possess assault rifles.

"There's a realization on Capitol Hill that the 1994 law was ineffective," says Andrew Arulanandam, a spokesman for the National Rifle Association. "The logical question is why should we resurrect a law that was ... ineffective?"

Even gun control advocates are focusing on achieving other changes rather than reviving the ban. The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence wants background checks required on all gun sales including those at gun shows.

"The laws on the books aren't getting the job done," says Paul Helmke, the president.

Obama's stance in Mexico represented a U-turn.

He backed the ban during his presidential campaign. His transition team listed "making the expired federal assault weapons ban permanent" a goal of the administration.

"I believe we need to renew - not roll back - this commonsense gun law," Obama told the Chicago Tribune during his Senate campaign in 2004 when the assault weapons ban was expiring.

samD notes: It sounds good but be ever vigilant, we can't let our guard down!

5 years 45 weeks ago, 4:50 PM

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so will

that open the flood gates on ammo...????

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 4:53 PM

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Re: Ammo

What a buyer for Big5 Sporting goods told me, is that, all production of NATO ammo, ie: 9mm and .223 is going into Government first demand supplies.

5 years 45 weeks ago, 4:57 PM

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oh ok

but you would have to think someone is losing mucho dinero with this shortage. unless the government is paying 600.00 for a single bullet.

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 5:00 PM

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to lazer etch each one of those bullets.
Government contracts take precedence over civilian supply.

5 years 45 weeks ago, 5:02 PM

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yes

but money does talk pretty loud.Ask Cheney

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 5:08 PM

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They are all driven by Power and Money! The only way to stop them is enact 2 term strict term limits and no pensions, because they won't need them.

5 years 45 weeks ago, 5:10 PM

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WTF!!!!!!!

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 5:13 PM

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WTF back at you.

In your heart you know I am right and you do lust for my luscious body, you closet/bakery homo...lol

5 years 45 weeks ago, 5:19 PM

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ok but

its a big closet

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 5:14 PM

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Schuyler

Good info on that stealth boat. It sort of resembles my new yacht.
Sky have you, through your Navy connections, know anything about Obama putting the reins on the Seals in the pirate altercation?

5 years 45 weeks ago, 5:21 PM

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You heard about the Greek kid, "He was reared by his Father"

5 years 45 weeks ago, 5:23 PM

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ok

hOW DO THEY SEPERATE THE MEN FROM THE BOYS IN GREECE?????? WITH A CROWBAR!!!!

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to take action if the Captain's life was in danger. The SEALs parachuted aboard the USS Bainbridge at night so they would not be seen (They may have gone in the water rather than tried to land on the deck) complete with gear, and were ready to go. The Captain of the Bainbridge actually gave the order to fire. Obama was definitely in the loop on this one.

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 5:27 PM

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So what you have heard

is that lethal force was ONLY to be used if imminnent danger was present for the Captain. I heard that he sought peaceful, non-violent solutions otherwise.

5 years 45 weeks ago, 5:30 PM

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Could this be a staged act, to show that Obama is not a weak Preident????

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 5:32 PM

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ebear

The only one's that he would fool is the dummies, present company excepted, that voted for him. Because the rest of us Know he is weak.

5 years 45 weeks ago, 5:34 PM

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to act. If Bush had done that the press would have had a field day, but if Obama does it, he 'passes his test.' Obama may have been posturing and no doubt this issue was discussed in the 'Situation' room. If he'd really had the guts he would have shot down the North Korean missile. So I don't think world leaders are quaking in their boots yet.

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 5:35 PM

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ok but

im just sayin........i mean after 9-11....i would,nt put it past anyone

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 5:37 PM

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You think 9-11 was a staged event?

5 years 45 weeks ago, 5:39 PM

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SAM......

YES I DO

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 8:10 AM

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My god

ebear wrote:
YES I DO

Bwhaha!!! Some people.

01*20*2013 Obamas last day!
5 years 45 weeks ago, 5:41 PM

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Where did you get this info from sytasyn-syn?

5 years 45 weeks ago, 5:48 PM

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and i think that it definatly not Bush.....not smart enough.....No Sam this was me making my own mind up.....But allot of theories make allot of sense to me....

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ebear

did they film the moon walk in your basement?

"Proelium Comminus Auctoritate" "Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."
5 years 45 weeks ago, 6:13 PM

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nope

i never met micheal jackson

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well he met you

you don't remember drinking a little jesus juice and waking up a little soar and stickie?

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 6:20 PM

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yeah

but when i roll over Tito was there , not mike

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 6:21 PM

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EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

Please tell me it ain't true....

5 years 45 weeks ago, 6:24 PM

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hey!!!

thats what i said

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.223 ammo

Except for specialty rounds (i.e. ironkoji's 5,000 ft/lb mk262 ammo) isn't produced by commercial manufacturers. M855 "green tip" is made for the government by the Lake City arsenal, not by civilians. 9mm ammo for the military is made by Winchester.

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