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3 years 50 weeks ago, 4:24 PM

Vaquero

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Do me a favor guys

This was my uncle. I've been struggling with the thought that the framed document thanking him and his family for his service to our country carries the signature of one barrak hussein obama. If you are a vet, PLEASE, see this term through before you cash in. I cannot come to terms with this. It is eating at me. You all deserve better!

Alfred T. Liner

Anson, Texas

Alfred T. Liner, 84, died Thursday, April 30, 2009, at an Abilene hospital.

Services will be 2:00 p.m. Monday, May 4, 2009, at the First Baptist Church in Anson. Burial will be in Texas State Veterans Cemetery at Abilene.

Born September 30, 1924 in Picton, A. T. was a son of the late V. A. and Maurene (Randolf) Liner. He graduated from Hawley High School and was a U. S. Army veteran of World War II and was a member of the 536th Amphibious Tractor Battalion. In 1946, A. T. married Jo Isbell in Abilene. He worked for Humble Oil Company for 50 years and later owned Liner Oil Company. A. T. was a member of the First Baptist Church and the Anson Lions Club.

Thanks, Vaq.

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3 years 50 weeks ago, 4:33 PM

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Vaq

My deepest sympathies, and I understand you disconcerting feeling about his sig on it.

3 years 50 weeks ago, 4:55 PM

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Vaquero Sig or not

He is still the President
Frame it

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3 years 50 weeks ago, 5:24 PM

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I agree with Cdub

I agree with Cdub

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3 years 50 weeks ago, 5:02 PM

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from Clinton after they did their twenty. But both when my father passed away under Bush and my father-in-law under Obama, they received no certificate from the Prez. They got a flag, though, and they're both buried in a vet cemetary.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
3 years 50 weeks ago, 5:03 PM

Vaquero

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Dubya

The Flag is priceless. The paper, man, I just can't digest it. My Dad is still alive (Thank GOD).
My wife lost her father (WWII Vet) under the admin. of George HW Bush. It just aint the same!
It just aint. Lord knows I've tried. It just aint.

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3 years 50 weeks ago, 5:10 PM

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I really do and can see your disgust

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3 years 50 weeks ago, 6:33 PM

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My Dad got a flag,

which I feel is honorable. I hate to use the word 'fortunately'.......My dad passed away before Obummer became the POTUS, had he not, that would likely have killed him anyway. I wouldn't wipe my ass with something signed by Obama!!!!

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3 years 50 weeks ago, 5:07 PM

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He served his country.......that is the most important thing! Glod bless him!

"Two flags fly above my land that really sum up how I feel. One is the colors that fly high and proud the red the white the blue.The other ones got a rattlesnake with a simple statement made, Don’t Tread On Me is what it says"
3 years 50 weeks ago, 5:24 PM

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Vaq

same from me,,, I'd be just like you,, I would destroy Obaminations' sig and write over it YahShua/Jesus or something,,, just not his.

I'm not suggesting this but it is truly what I would have done if it was mine aye

"for no greater Love doth a man have than to lay down his life for his friends"

and no other has put his own life on the line than Him and the American Military

I just see it as not damaging the document,,,, but just making it right.

"We fight not for Glory nor for Honors; but only and alone we fight for Freedom, which no Good Man surrenders but with his life" - Robert the Bruce "Declaration of Arbroath"
3 years 50 weeks ago, 5:28 PM

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Neither of my relatives got anything when they passed away. They didn't get a signed certificate. The government stopped their ss, and that was about it. So I'm a bit confused.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
3 years 50 weeks ago, 5:32 PM

Vaquero

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Schuy

I'll do my best to post a photo of said documents. These were signed by the POTUS at time of death, Maybe just a WWII thing. I really don't know.

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3 years 50 weeks ago, 5:39 PM

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OK. Thanks, Vaq

It's just that neither my father nor my father-in-law's heirs received anything like that. I may not have seen my father-in-law's because my sister-in-law was 'in charge,' but I certainly should have seen my father's because I was his only family left. It's not that I'm feeling 'left out,' just a bit surprised. My father was 87 and was a WW II vet, a Tech Sgt. My father-in-law, 96,who was in D-Day, retired as a Colonel.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
3 years 50 weeks ago, 5:41 PM

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Double post sorry

No idea why this double posted. Sorry

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3 years 50 weeks ago, 5:46 PM

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V mail

Anybody else heard of it? Pre-written letters home from servicemen overseas during WWII.
The soldiers usually just signed the bottom and the Military got them home for the loved ones.
My wifes mother passed away last year, we recently went through the cedar chest she kept.
I believe this may have been one of the most touching moments in our marriage. To see the handwritten and pre-written letters from her father to her mother at that particular point in history. A young wife in West TX and a young man in the South Pacific. I am not nor will I be the same. Photos of the unit also. When practical, I will have them transferred to digital and share with you guys. Not the V mail, just the photos.

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3 years 50 weeks ago, 6:05 PM

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including v-mail. Pretty poignant stuff. Their first child died shortly after birth when he was overseas and we have the letters about that incident. He was always so sweet to his wife with nothing bad to say, but we have a few letters he wrote to other people that were WAY different, "We pounded the crap out of the germans," for example, when he was in Africa fighting Rommel. (He was an artillery officer.) There are way over 500 letters in the group. One interesting point: As an officer he had the privilege of signing his own letters off through the censor.

My mother, on the other hand, received letters that had been censored. She said it was freaking obvious that any words having to do with "the sea" had been clipped out (with a razor blade) because the censors didn't want location to be revealed. I should transcribe them and stick them on scribd. Thanks for an idea for a project, though it sounds a lot like work. Ach!

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
3 years 50 weeks ago, 6:12 PM

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I would love to read the letters, if wouldn't mind posting them. Anyone's letters from the gunslot crowd. I want to read a personal account of their own experiences. There were no publicized conflicts going on when I was in. I found out everyone loved my ramblings. Would love to read these from an era earlier than mine.

"We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home" Thomas Jefferson
3 years 50 weeks ago, 6:17 PM

Vaquero

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No promises

These are the property of my wife. I'll try though.
Pretty mild stuff by today's standards.

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3 years 50 weeks ago, 11:36 PM

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Vaquero

My condolences to you.

I don't really know how you feel, because I'm not you. People say, "I know just how you feel", but they can't, without reading your mind. Everyone has their own emotions, and their own life experiences that determines how they feel which are unique to them.

You will do whatever is correct for you to do. My best wishes to you.

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man. (Mark Twain).
3 years 50 weeks ago, 10:05 AM

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Sorry for your loss Vaq,
I don't know what else to say except I figure I would feel just like you do now. Hang in there, the answers will come.

Any day above dirt is a good day!!! My New Motto: Where Do I Sign? (Oh yes I would)
3 years 50 weeks ago, 12:59 PM

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Sorry to hear about that.

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