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5 years 23 weeks ago, 8:21 PM

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I'm not trying to be a fearmonger or conspiracy theorist, but I get a slight sense of dread when I think of the new administration. The president has stated that he supports a permanent assault weapons ban, and part of the hundreds of billions of our dollars he would hand out as part of his stimulus package includes more welfare. I don't pay much in taxes, as I don't make much, but I get angry. I don't understand why liberals are concerned with how much the richest 1% in the country own. It's the American dream. What kind of scum really thinks it's okay to redistribute wealth? Get a job!! If I wanted to, i could go in to the hospital and get 100% disability for hearing and brain injury from a cumulative(sp) effect of explosions throughout my 39 months in Iraq. I know this, because people in my unit who have been through much less have done so. I can't bring myself to do it. It's disgusting to take money from citizens that you don't earn. If I had my way, some members of my family would lose their welfare because they are lazy welfare whores and I have told them so. I don't feel that I should have any more privileges than anyone else, but I posed a question on President Obama's suggestion website. The question I posed was how can they justify denying me the ability to own a civilian version of the rifle I have carried while serving my nation for over a decade. I still have not received a reply. This is a rant, so Marvin or Quinton, feel free to delete it, but I had to get it out.

"I have always been a soldier. I have known no other life. The calling of arms, I have followed from boyhood. I have never sought another." From The Virtues of War, by Steven Pressfield.
5 years 23 weeks ago, 1:21 AM

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the walls closing in

i agree,the new administration says i will/do qualify for welfare.i dont want it!instead of welfare,how about a decent job?

5 years 21 weeks ago, 5:57 AM

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More on jobs/welfare

Correct me if I am wrong, but there is a law saying certain sized businesses must have a union if a percentage of the employees vote to have one, right? If this is correct, the government causes businesses to lose out. Why the fuck should a business be forced to pay a guy 20 bucks an hour to push a broom or drive a few rivets? If the business wants to, then more power to them. But if not, leave them alone. I think the level of regulation on business is killing us. I agree with some regulation, such as quality of foodstuffs, and a current minimum wage, but for the most part, big government is killing us. I am genuinely angry about this shit. Not just because the savior is here, although he will make it worse.

"I have always been a soldier. I have known no other life. The calling of arms, I have followed from boyhood. I have never sought another." From The Virtues of War, by Steven Pressfield.
5 years 21 weeks ago, 8:09 AM

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There is no labor law that says any company "must" have a union. There is a law which provides for the orderly attempt of unions to "organize" a company, if by secret ballot election, the eligible employees vote "yes" in the majority. However, the company may lawfully campaign against such an organizing attempt, and many have been able to dissuade their employees from voting "yes".

Even if a union were to have "won" such an election, wages and benefits must be fairly negotiated, and the government is not a party to such negotiations.

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5 years 21 weeks ago, 12:09 PM

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Actually NO YOU'RE WRONG (kinda).....The law which you speak of "which provides for the orderly attempt of unions to "organize" a company" is called the National Labor Relations Act, passed in 1935. And it does say that a company MUST have a union, with limitations, as I will explain here. If you had read what runaway wrote before pouncing, you would realize that he stated something which is correct. If you paid attention to the news you would also know that or Democrat friends are hot to trott about a new law which many lobbyists have been trying to push through called Employee Free Choice Act or (EFCA). "Under current U.S. labor law, the National Labor Relations Board will certify a union as the exclusive representative of bargaining unit employees by card check process or secret ballot election, which is held if more than 30% of employees in a bargaining unit sign statements asking for representation by a union." Meaning only 30% of all the employees have to cast a SECRET Ballot saying whether they agree to being represented or not. Furthermore, currently if 50% of the labor force (employees) vote to unionize then they may move to a card check process, THIS is not a secret process. EFCA if passed would allow the formation of a union WITHOUT a 30% vote, the labor force would need only to enter a card check process. THIS has many people pissed (Excuse me if I was to use your terminology so as to raise to your level of education I'd use Miffed) at any rate this has many rather miffed, because many feel as though this will violate their RIGHT to secret voting, a process by which no individual would/should ever feel as though they are being coerced into voting a specific way. Interestingly in 2007 it passed the House by a 56 margin, only two democrats voted against this bill and only 13 Republicans voted for it. But hey what the fuck do we all know we're just peons right LLE?

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5 years 21 weeks ago, 1:17 PM

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the NLRA carefully. Having worked in Labor Relations for about 38 years, and conducted eleven election campaigns, I suspect you need some further instruction. As to the EFCA--It is not law, therefore has no effect.

Too old to fight, Too old to run, guess that's why I carry a gun! "would someone show this asshole the way out of town".[Rabbi Avram Belinski-aka "The Frisco Kid"]
5 years 21 weeks ago, 1:33 PM

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I never said it was law. Hence why I said trying to push....

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5 years 21 weeks ago, 2:22 PM

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the provisions of the NLRA. You need to correct your errors.

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5 years 21 weeks ago, 2:27 PM

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LLE,
could you spell out the errors and/or provisions. In my line of work, we are an open shop and will take bids from union as well as non-union. All I know about unions I learned on the Sopranos!!

just kidding, but I would appreciate an education on the workings. It could be my something learned today lecture.

thank you
clint

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5 years 21 weeks ago, 7:55 AM

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I do not want to make this a graduate course on the NLRA. Perhaps it would be good for you to ask questions about which you are curious, and I will attempt to be uncharacteristically brief on the answers.
I am not certain I understand your description about how your employer operates.

Too old to fight, Too old to run, guess that's why I carry a gun! "would someone show this asshole the way out of town".[Rabbi Avram Belinski-aka "The Frisco Kid"]
5 years 21 weeks ago, 10:52 AM

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get my point exactly as I write it. You should not feel bad about getting any compensation for what occurred to you in Iraq. You earned that money for sure! As a taxpayer, if that money was going to you, that would not bother me one bit. As part of your service you earned that. With that said, as a productive member of society, you choose to not take the money well that says a lot about your character. I saw many retirees get compensation upon their retirement with minor aches and pains that they would probably have had anyway. I chose not to go after any additional compensation other than my normal retirement. I could have probably gotten 5-15% disability for minor things, but I wouldn't have felt good about it, so I didn't do it. I respect you for your decision, although I still say you deserve it if your problems were caused by your experiences in Iraq. With that being said...the Obama administration is just rewarding those who supported him. The best thing we can do it join the NRA (who fights against these attempts to deny us 2nd Amendment rights). You and everyone else also need to get out, like I have said many times. Go to town hall meetings, city council meetings, etc etc. Go when you will have a chance to ask question...ask all the candidates, members of the council...everyone, what is their stance on guns. Get them on record as either supporting your right or not...but make it public record and use that everytime you can, if they vote against your right in any way...it's really the only way, out these people and make them pay politically! But, you must be educated and you must know the facts...not just opinion...all the info is available through the NRA!!! Just sayin'

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5 years 21 weeks ago, 1:36 PM

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Rant away man! I'm right there with you. Over that past 100 years Americans have slowly been steered away from spirituality, hard work, family and strong moral values and been dumbed down into materialism, consumption, and everything else that keeps them looking away from what's really going on.

I don't know how far most of you guys go with this, but I definitely think the Globalists have been planning this for a long time and until the American people stand up and say they've had enough it's only going to get worse.

"Under a scientific dictator education will really work - with the result that most men and women will grow up to love their servitude and will never dream of revolution." - Aldous Huxley
5 years 21 weeks ago, 8:15 PM

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to watch...day in and day out, but it's hard for most people to see it happening, too busy with day to day life to notice.

PKato

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They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone
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5 years 21 weeks ago, 10:47 PM

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All too true

This has been going on for many many years. Once they have got us believing that we can't live without that new Wii or that Playstation 3 or that 100 inch plasma TV, then we are doomed. And that is what has happened. We are a nation of consumers. Just look at our kids. They have never been without anything. They don't know what it is like to only have a black and white TV, or a rotary phone, or wall heaters in the house, or life before microwaves, or a family only having one car. We have gotten so far away from family values that we may never return to them. It is actually cool for a little girl to have babies out of wedlock and get her some WIC and food stamps. Once upon a time, if a girl got pregnant before marriage, she got put into a home for unwed mothers. They didn't stay in school. School was for the people who wanted to grow up and not be whores with bastard children. We don't regulate our society anymore. We don't stand up for what is right. We only want everything to go our way, no matter what we do. We have forgotten what the word consequences means. For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction, and when we do something wrong, then we should expect bad consequences to occur. But our society is now rewarding people for bad behavior and the bottom line is that we are not teaching our kids what good and bad are anymore, just what is cool and not cool. That is how Obama got elected. He was cool...a cool communist...but cool none-the-less.

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5 years 21 weeks ago, 10:55 PM

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Sadly

What you wrote is 100% true. Even though i dont live in the U.S.A, it's the same here. Mankind has lost his moral compass. Children are now growing up to believe that they are owed something, its all about me, me, me and how much stuff i can get. Welfare and food stamps used to be a shameful thing and most people would starve before taking a handout in the old days, not so now. Its a sad situation.

"Give me liberty or give me death". Patrick Henry, March 23,1775
5 years 21 weeks ago, 11:37 PM

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I am a rabid consumer

I am a material girl living in a material world. Except I'm not a girl. I like buying things and having things. I could live without the vast majority of the things in my house, but I like it. I have no problem with people buying things, but I have a real problem with scum like my sister who buys things while bragging that the state of Missouri pays her cable bill. She is a worthless drain on our society and she should die. I hope she matures and realizes what a piece of shit she is and stops, but I doubt it.

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5 years 21 weeks ago, 4:56 AM

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It is great work if you can afford it. It is those that think that they have a right to all of the luxury items that are not nessecities, that make me mad. We are in the grips of an entitlement mentality in this generation and they think that they are owed all of the things that make life easy. Well, if you can't buy it with your own money, then you should not have it. My 9yo thinks that we owe him that Wii and Playstation 3 and all those games and it just kills him when we take them away as punishment. Actually that is better than whipping his ass. He will straighten right up when we just threaten him with being grounded from the games.

We need to get back to some old fashioned family values and make kids and young people earn the things that they get. I am in the process of teaching my boy that if you want something, then you have to do something to earn it. Instilling a work ethic has been difficult, but it is starting to work.

Andy Griffith, where are you when we need you?!!!

Go ahead punk, Make My Day!
5 years 21 weeks ago, 11:49 PM

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yes

And now the stimulus has passed......

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5 years 21 weeks ago, 1:25 AM

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on one of my topics!! How many of you can say that? I RULE ALL I SEE!!!

"I have always been a soldier. I have known no other life. The calling of arms, I have followed from boyhood. I have never sought another." From The Virtues of War, by Steven Pressfield.
5 years 21 weeks ago, 1:30 AM

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don"t get used to it

he removed the boulder from the cave entrance, now he shall return

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5 years 21 weeks ago, 8:27 AM

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runaway

I can!!!!!!!!!

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5 years 20 weeks ago, 11:29 AM

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YES!!!!!!!!

I feel this way to and am happy to know others feel the same. I am as prepaird as I can be.

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