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Kentucky does. I want a class 3 weapon BAD, just for the fun of it. Reaper, if I remember, havent u been to Knob Creek? If so, is there such thing as a smg that is affordable?
"Bravery is the capacity to perform properly even when scared half to death." — Gen. Omar Bradley
no. never been to knob creek. would love to though.
depends on what you consider affordable. all full autos are really expensve. i know a M16 will run around $15,000 just cause of the stamp. if you have a class 3 you can buy the stamp to make a semi into a full auto, but the stamp still costs a few grand. i think the cheapest full auto smg would probably be a mac 10 or mac 11, but i think they would still cost $3,000-$5,000.
"Tics- Those Blood Sucking Devils.....Burn In Hell." - Snake
I know there is no reason for me to ask this question, but what is the price range of a full auto MP5? Also, would a fullauto Ruger 10-22 .22 rifle be any cheaper, Ive seen them on Youtube, and they are sweet! But the AM-180 .22 smg is even sweeter!
"Bravery is the capacity to perform properly even when scared half to death." — Gen. Omar Bradley
the ruger might be cheaper. below is a link to a website that sells machine guns. they have a few mp5's but you have to email them for the price, so i'm guessing they are pretty expensive. if i had to guess i would say $10,000-$15,000. http://www.autoweapons.com/products/products.html
"Tics- Those Blood Sucking Devils.....Burn In Hell." - Snake
a smg would be cool but with ammo prices the way they are i wouldnt wanna pay to shoot these things even handloading with this volume of fire would be a nightmare
"It's a hell of a thing...killing a man.You take away all he's got,and all he's ever gonna have."
True, I probably wont own one anyways because I looked @ the steps for getting a class 3 license, looked complicated. Plus, if u practice, u can almost shoot a semi-auto as fast, but an smg would be pretty cool.
"Bravery is the capacity to perform properly even when scared half to death." — Gen. Omar Bradley
Anyone here have a class 3 license and own an automatic weapon? If so, tell me about it. How hard is it to get a class 3 license? Also, if u have ever shot an automatic gun, please tell me about that to because I am really interested in machine guns(hopefully goin to Knob Creek this October...will try to shoot one then!)
"Bravery is the capacity to perform properly even when scared half to death." — Gen. Omar Bradley
there is also a gun shop in vegas that rents machine guns and smg's it was pretty cheap you get the gun and 100 rds plus a lesson they had an indoor range went there 2 years ago to get married and the wife paid for me to go there and play shot an mp5 an ak47 and a tommygun what a blast i also shot a mac 10 in 45 acp once that my dads friend had man that baby would cut down trees in a second (6-8 inch fir trees)fun as hell
"It's a hell of a thing...killing a man.You take away all he's got,and all he's ever gonna have."
yeah i gotta say there aint nothin like a full auto ak the others were cool i shot the tommy cause of its history i'll see if i can find their website for ya
"It's a hell of a thing...killing a man.You take away all he's got,and all he's ever gonna have."
Greasy,
you can own a suppressor here in washington. You can even install it on the rifle, but by God, do not send a round down range while you are in this state.
clint
"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it."
-Barak Obama
not owning, what u cant use why own?besides i walk too damn loud to even worry about needing a suppressor another point suppressors take up weight that i would rather fill with more ammo
"It's a hell of a thing...killing a man.You take away all he's got,and all he's ever gonna have."
Greasy,
Please expand on extra ammo? Are you speaking of hunting or assault or something else?
It makes sense that the weapon you are using would be barrel heavy. I have been fortunate enough to fire a weapon with a beta-mag. Talk about heavy!! I think I would rather have 4 30 round magazines instead of 1 100 round magazine (even 3 30 rounders for that matter).
I do however disagree with you about the owning versus using. There are other states that do allow the use of suppressors. I do not think that it is fair to allow discrimination of one state over another. I am working on trying to change this law. To accept the unfair law as it stands is the same apathy that leads to loss of liberties.
clint
"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it."
-Barak Obama
i simply meant that say a suppressor weighs 1 pound i would rather carry 1 pound of extra ammo and as for owning/using for me here in wa state i cant use a suppressor so why haveone to hang it on the wall? all i'm sayin is that i dont hunt people and you dont need a suppressor to hunt critters even for poaching a 22 works quietly enough
"It's a hell of a thing...killing a man.You take away all he's got,and all he's ever gonna have."
I think some of you may be thinking of two different things.
A class three BATF license is a very hard thing to get.First you need to get a regular BATF gun dealers license,then you can apply for class three,with certain requirements that are expensive.
You can still obtain a class 3 machine gun but you must go through a class 3 dealer and apply to BATF for a transfer of weapon Ths will cost
you $200.00 IF approved.The dealer also tacks on his fee.
Waiting times for approval can be as long as two years.
Keep in mind that your criminal history and your past may come back to bite you.You must have a local LAW ENFORCEMENT "OFFICIAL" approve the transfer prior to sending in for BATF Approval.
Best bet go to class 3 dealer to get questions explained.
greasypaws
my state Washington, does not allow automatic weapons
Reaper308
AZ does. just need a class 3 permit for full auto, suppressors, and rifle and shotgun barrels under 16 in.
Hunter59
Kentucky does. I want a class 3 weapon BAD, just for the fun of it. Reaper, if I remember, havent u been to Knob Creek? If so, is there such thing as a smg that is affordable?
Reaper308
no. never been to knob creek. would love to though.
depends on what you consider affordable. all full autos are really expensve. i know a M16 will run around $15,000 just cause of the stamp. if you have a class 3 you can buy the stamp to make a semi into a full auto, but the stamp still costs a few grand. i think the cheapest full auto smg would probably be a mac 10 or mac 11, but i think they would still cost $3,000-$5,000.
Hunter59
I know there is no reason for me to ask this question, but what is the price range of a full auto MP5? Also, would a fullauto Ruger 10-22 .22 rifle be any cheaper, Ive seen them on Youtube, and they are sweet! But the AM-180 .22 smg is even sweeter!
Reaper308
the ruger might be cheaper. below is a link to a website that sells machine guns. they have a few mp5's but you have to email them for the price, so i'm guessing they are pretty expensive. if i had to guess i would say $10,000-$15,000.
http://www.autoweapons.com/products/products.html
greasypaws
a smg would be cool but with ammo prices the way they are i wouldnt wanna pay to shoot these things even handloading with this volume of fire would be a nightmare
Hunter59
True, I probably wont own one anyways because I looked @ the steps for getting a class 3 license, looked complicated. Plus, if u practice, u can almost shoot a semi-auto as fast, but an smg would be pretty cool.
Hunter59
Anyone here have a class 3 license and own an automatic weapon? If so, tell me about it. How hard is it to get a class 3 license? Also, if u have ever shot an automatic gun, please tell me about that to because I am really interested in machine guns(hopefully goin to Knob Creek this October...will try to shoot one then!)
greasypaws
there is also a gun shop in vegas that rents machine guns and smg's it was pretty cheap you get the gun and 100 rds plus a lesson they had an indoor range went there 2 years ago to get married and the wife paid for me to go there and play shot an mp5 an ak47 and a tommygun what a blast i also shot a mac 10 in 45 acp once that my dads friend had man that baby would cut down trees in a second (6-8 inch fir trees)fun as hell
Hunter59
Which was ur favorite out of those guns?
greasypaws
yeah i gotta say there aint nothin like a full auto ak the others were cool i shot the tommy cause of its history i'll see if i can find their website for ya
Hunter59
Thanks alot! Just talkin about machine guns has me excited about Knob Creek! Love to see that website, been to Vegas 2 times. Thanks.
greasypaws
go to this site and look under gun rental:http://www.thegunstorelasvegas.com/
Reaper308
a few ranges in the phoenix area let you rent full auto as well. scottsdale gun club has a lot.
greasypaws
we wont see him for a bit he's on that site droolin lol
ebear
here in illinois. the only place that might let you shoot full auto might be in ottawa..outdoor range out in the sticks.....
Hunter59
That's a nice website. I wasn't drooling...but close! LOL
jordsamsar
Not in NY, but I've seen them at my club,you didn't hear that from me.
Jsar
clintlebo
Greasy,
you can own a suppressor here in washington. You can even install it on the rifle, but by God, do not send a round down range while you are in this state.
clint
greasypaws
not owning, what u cant use why own?besides i walk too damn loud to even worry about needing a suppressor another point suppressors take up weight that i would rather fill with more ammo
clintlebo
Greasy,
Please expand on extra ammo? Are you speaking of hunting or assault or something else?
It makes sense that the weapon you are using would be barrel heavy. I have been fortunate enough to fire a weapon with a beta-mag. Talk about heavy!! I think I would rather have 4 30 round magazines instead of 1 100 round magazine (even 3 30 rounders for that matter).
I do however disagree with you about the owning versus using. There are other states that do allow the use of suppressors. I do not think that it is fair to allow discrimination of one state over another. I am working on trying to change this law. To accept the unfair law as it stands is the same apathy that leads to loss of liberties.
clint
greasypaws
i simply meant that say a suppressor weighs 1 pound i would rather carry 1 pound of extra ammo and as for owning/using for me here in wa state i cant use a suppressor so why haveone to hang it on the wall? all i'm sayin is that i dont hunt people and you dont need a suppressor to hunt critters even for poaching a 22 works quietly enough
howard
I think some of you may be thinking of two different things.
A class three BATF license is a very hard thing to get.First you need to get a regular BATF gun dealers license,then you can apply for class three,with certain requirements that are expensive.
You can still obtain a class 3 machine gun but you must go through a class 3 dealer and apply to BATF for a transfer of weapon Ths will cost
you $200.00 IF approved.The dealer also tacks on his fee.
Waiting times for approval can be as long as two years.
Keep in mind that your criminal history and your past may come back to bite you.You must have a local LAW ENFORCEMENT "OFFICIAL" approve the transfer prior to sending in for BATF Approval.
Best bet go to class 3 dealer to get questions explained.