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'GRONINGEN, the most northerly province of Holland, bounded S. by Drente, W. by Friesland and the Lauwers Zee, N. and N.E. by the North Sea and the mouth of the Ems with the Dollart, and on the S.E. by the Prussian province of Hanover. It includes the islands of Boschplaat and Rottumeroog, belonging to the group of Frisian islands. Area, 887 sq. m.; pop. (1900) 299,602. Groningen is connected with the Drente plateau by the sandy tongue of the Hondsrug which extends almost up to the capital. West, north and north-east of this the province is flat and consists of sea-clay or sand and clay mixed, except where patches of low and high fen occur on the Frisian borders. Low fen predominates to the east of the capital, between the Zuidlardermeer and the Schildmeer or lakes. The south-eastern portion of the province consists of high fen resting on diluvial sand. A large part of this has been reclaimed and the sandy soil laid bare, but on the Drente and Prussian borders areas of fen still remain. The so-called Boertanger Morass on the Prussian border was long considered as the natural protection of the eastern frontier, and with the view of preserving its impassable condition neither agriculture nor cattle-rearing might be practised here until 1824, and it was only in 1868 that the building of houses was sanctioned and the work of reclamation begun.

6 years 8 weeks ago, 10:55 PM

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thanks

for the insight

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6 years 8 weeks ago, 11:08 PM

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samD-junior

give the devil his due
6 years 8 weeks ago, 11:11 PM

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ha ha

you didn't just call me samD junior did you?

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6 years 8 weeks ago, 7:59 PM

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6 years 8 weeks ago, 11:10 AM

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marten

That boy, reaper, ain't from my loins! LOL

6 years 8 weeks ago, 11:10 PM

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marten

what punishment? oh, yeah, that... just put some ice on it. the swelling should go down but you may get a bruise.

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6 years 8 weeks ago, 11:01 AM

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is nijmegen bridge in holland....souns like somthing i read in a book about Operation Market Garden.....just asking Stop yelling at me!!!

6 years 8 weeks ago, 11:23 AM

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yes, I believe so. nijmegen is in netherlands, and I believe the bridge was over the waal river, which connects with the rhine... thats why the germans needed it. it was one of the bridges that we needed to secure within operation market garden

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6 years 8 weeks ago, 11:19 AM

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REAPER!!!!!!!!!!

I found it on wikipedia.....pay attention to me......

6 years 8 weeks ago, 11:24 AM

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sorry snake

I was typing. see what wikipedia can do? you'll be a history genius in no time!

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6 years 8 weeks ago, 11:33 AM

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operation Market garden was a faliure......20000 germas held off

1 armoured division
2 infantry divisions
3 airborne divisions
1 independent airborne brigade
Supporting attacks by VIII, XII Corps and aerial support

Allied Casulties

Allied:
15,130–17,200 casualties

Axis Casulties

7,500–10,000 casualties

What the hell did they have we didnt. Possibly a home feild atvantage?

6 years 8 weeks ago, 11:43 AM

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from what I read...

It sounded like the Arnhem bridge was the straw that broke the camels back. our goal was not realistic. if we could have secured the Arnhem, we would have taken the Rhine... but it was one too many. it also sounded like bad weather left some of our Airborne units without artillery for a few days making the seizure almost impossible.

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6 years 8 weeks ago, 11:55 AM

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yup thats right but if it had suceeeded then the war would have been over by christmas in 1944

6 years 8 weeks ago, 7:42 PM

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was light/airborne Infantry versus Armor. Infantry may be okay in the defense, as we saw in the defense of Bastogne, but you cannot attack armor without your own armor, not with the equipment they had. Poor intelligence and a refusal of the leadership to scrap this mission was the reason for the failure.

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