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5 years 5 days ago, 10:03 AM

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This is next element is ryo's ongoing study of small arms. ryo know very little about shotguns except the following: they are dangerous, they are loud and they frighten the peewaddins out of ryo. but ryo is not one to quit ever and so will study these and then get up the nerve to fire one hopefully soon.

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5 years 5 days ago, 10:12 AM

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The best way that I can explain it is other than, 3" Magnums, it is a slower recoil. I have shot 16 & 12 ga since I was a young boy not much bigger than you are now. Only difference was they had these long 28 to 32" bbls on them. They were physically hard to hold up.
If you start with a .20 ga and move up to a 12 ga you will be fine. Just shoot short 18" bbl guns. Most have recoil pads or get a slip on pad. I have a recoil pad on my 16 ga Browning but I was only like 8 yrs old when I got it.
Shooting semi-autos is much easier because perceived recoil is less.

5 years 5 days ago, 10:20 AM

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ryo would not be afraid to even fire that Denel you showed a couple of weeks ago, but am still afraid of shotgun. however you have given ryo some very interesting ideas. domo arigato goziemasu!

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5 years 5 days ago, 10:45 AM

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just start out with light loads in a 20 ga. It will have more recoil than your rifles but you'll be fine.

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5 years 5 days ago, 10:55 AM

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our gun club. btw, ryo put up two pictures yesterday that are dedicated to you. if you go to ryo's homepage here on the forum you will find them. hope you like them and find them very interesting.

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5 years 5 days ago, 10:57 AM

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it really suck we not get banner alerts anymore that say we have incoming PM mail, but hope the admins will fix this soon.

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5 years 5 days ago, 11:50 AM

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Shotguns are a force to be reckoned with on the battle field. I have shot a few brands of shotguns but for you I would start out with a .410 they have little recoil. My favorite Shotgun is possibly a cheap brand but I still think there awesome. Its called Iver Johnson "Champion" 12 Gauge. My buddy has it and it has a good kick to it but I think it is an OK gun.

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5 years 4 days ago, 6:35 PM

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and my wife shoots it as well as me...she likes it better than the g7..women go figure!!!

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5 years 5 days ago, 11:59 AM

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5 years 5 days ago, 12:10 PM

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All is good.Thank You.

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5 years 4 days ago, 5:42 PM

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You can fire a 12 ga shotgun without much trouble provided you ensure three things. The stock is firmly in the meaty part of your shoulder, you have a good stance with your upper body oriented toward the threat and the torso is forward from the waist, and your face is firmly against the stock. The face being against the stock is very important as anyone who has fired shotguns a bit can tall you the slap on your jaw can be an irritation without a good stockweld. All the basic rifle fundamentals apply with the shotgun. I have actually never fired a 20ga and I learned at the age of 8 with a single shot NEF 12 ga. Now a lighweight single shot with a plastic buttplate firing 3" #4 turkey loads will definitely wake you up. As far as some of the more technical information, I'll start you out; The term gauge is used when describing the bore diameter. The number is how many pure lead, perfectly round balls of the same diameter as the bore you'd need to have a pound of lead. 12 gauge, for example, means you'd need 12 round balls of lead the same diameter as the bore to have a pound of lead. That's why the higher the number, the smaller the shotgun. Most LE and military agencies use 12 gauge shotguns. Why they chose 12 ga over 20, I don't know. For most anti-personnel applications, the 2 3/4" 00 Buckshot round is used, with either 9, 12, or 15 pellet loads. I don't remember the diameter of all the different shot sizes, but I know 00 Buckshot pellets are .33 caliber. I'll find the shot size chart and post it for you. Shotguns are, hands down, the most versatile weapon available. The dizzying variety of ordnance available for them would take a whole book to discuss in detail. Other members will know much more about the history and application of shotguns than myself, but this should get you started on your scattergun studies.

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5 years 4 days ago, 6:32 PM

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Pellet size chart for lead shot. From left to right, the columns are pellet type, caliber, diameter metric, and approximate number of pellets per ounce.

| | |
000 BUCK | .36 | 9.14 | 6.2
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00 BUCK | .33 | 8.38 | 8
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0 BUCK | .32 | 8.13 | 9
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1 BUCK | .30 | 7.62 | 11
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2 BUCK | .27 | 6.86 | 15
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3 BUCK | .25 | 6.35 | 19
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4 BUCK | .24 | 6.10 | 21
| | |
BB | .18 | 4.57 | 50
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2 | .148 | 3.76 | 90
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4 | .129 | 3.28 | 135
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5 | .120 | 3.05 | 170
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6 | .109 | 2.77 | 225
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7.5 | .094 | 2.39 | 350
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8 | .089 | 2.26 | 410
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8.5 | .085 | 2.16 | 470
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9 | .079 | 2.01 | 585
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12 | .05 | 1.3 | 2300
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5 years 2 days ago, 2:39 PM

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LittleDragon: Shotguns

Nothing to fear from the shotty! See if you can find a semi-auto in 20 gauge to try. Bennelli and Remington both make great semi-autos in 20 gauge. Shooting the lighter load out of the semi-autos takes away alot of the kick! Good Luck!

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5 years 2 days ago, 3:36 PM

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shotguns. ryo is still very very much afraid of shotguns. maybe the fear is because of the very loud bang they make when fired. maybe it's just because ryo is unreasonably afraid of what a shotgun can do to a person. am not sure why really, just am sure that ryo could fire a 20mm Denel without fear but am not sure could even fire a .410 shotgun. shotguns scare the pants off ryo. yet know this fear is not reasonable. ryo want to thank all of you for the very fine information you have given. next sunday morning, when ryo's family normally goes to the gun range for shooting, and ryo have part time job there, will attempt first shots with the smallest .410 shotgun that can be found. ryo is NOT coward and will be a man and face this fear of shotguns and somehow, someway will overcome this.

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5 years 2 days ago, 3:58 PM

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Which range do you Shoot/Work at? Busy this sunday, but maybe I could meet you out there sometime in the future!

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5 years 2 days ago, 4:10 PM

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it is about an half hour drive from north cental dallas. ryo would absolutely love to meet you in person. but this is something you must discuss with my pops. he has final decision about any such matters. pops is, Ironkoji on the forum if you wish to contact him. ryo is very very excited about the prospect of meeting you in person.

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5 years 2 days ago, 5:32 PM

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Will do, mabye sometime soon!

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