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6 years 37 weeks ago, 7:03 PM

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Federal HST

Has anyone been able to find these in 9MM? Heard somewhere that they were LEO only....any truth to that?

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 10:13 PM

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I have 400 rounds of it in .40S&W, but no 9mm. It is only sold to LEA distributers by federal (as far as I know)... but those same distributers and agenices turn around and sell their surplus ammo. It is perfectly legal for anyone to own. I bought all of mine from ammunitiontogo.com . They are running low on everything right now.
These guys look like they're back ordered too, but expecting more. http://www.tds-us.com/catalog.php/tds/dt49209/Federal_Tactical_HST_LEO
same here...
http://www.streichers.com/ProductDetail.aspx?Catalog=Guns+and+Ammo&Categ...

I'm sure you can find some around if you google it. Its good stuff!

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 6:24 PM

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And yes they are beautiful....Think I'll make my wife a necklace with one!!

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 10:23 PM

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beauty, ain't it

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I love the talons

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 10:36 PM

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they are hella expensive tho, lol

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 8:46 AM

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not really. Its pretty cheap for defense ammo. I bought a 1/2 case.... but they usually come in boxes of 50 rounds for around $20-$30+/-. Compare that to DPX (which is also great) which is around $30 for 20 rds.

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 8:52 AM

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another thought re:HST

if you can't find 9mm HST, look into winchester ranger SXT. It is also LE ammo and available to the public. It talons very similar to the HST. I think it comes in 124 gr +P, 127 gr. +p+, and 147 gr.

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 6:30 PM

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here you go.

http://www.tds-us.com/catalog.php/tds/dt44310/Ranger_Talon_LEO

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 6:38 PM

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winchester ranger SXT

Anybody have some pics of these expanded?

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 7:47 PM

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shakleford: SXT

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They are the new version of the old black talons (Same Xact Thing)

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 6:05 PM

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Nasty Looking

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They are the new version of the old black talons (Same Xact Thing)
I'll have to look for some of these too! Nasty looking!!!

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 7:51 PM

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another SXT

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 7:54 PM

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DPX

also check out Corbon's DPX. It uses the Barnes X bullet which talons just like SXT and HST but its specifically made for deeper penetration and shooting through thougher barriers. SXT, HST, and DPX are my favorite JHPs because I prefer the talons over mushrooms and I personally think they are much more devastating to tissue.

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 8:17 PM

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very very kewl pics of deform bullet neh. as you know ryo very much interest in science of how bullet deform neh ;-)

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 8:22 PM

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here is the Barnes X bullet after expansion. It is a very effective hunting round. Keep this in mind while thinking about the LRLSRS round.

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 8:36 PM

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sugoi mean, oh wow! this best picture yet and it beautiful. ryo almost feel hungry about getting to go shoot tomorrow with good friend and family and is this normal for new shooter ka

Your friend alway

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PS is there a web site for the Barnes X round ka ryo most definately need to study this round. btw, what caliber is this and what is weight in grains for projectile and what type brass is cartridge ka

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 8:39 PM

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Barnes...

http://www.barnesbullets.com/

I'm sure you can find all the info you need if you research it online

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 9:20 PM

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reaper chan arigato!

domo arigato goziemasu! thank you so very much! you about to have a pm in 5 minute or less.

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6 years 37 weeks ago, 8:09 PM

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there is very kewl animation video on the first page that shows the round deform and it way too very kewl neh. and the information ryo need to study was all there on the site just like reaper chan say. arigato neh d:-)

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6 years 4 weeks ago, 7:14 AM

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Just can't seem to find any! Anybody have any new leads?

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6 years 4 weeks ago, 9:34 AM

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www.gunbroker.com has lots of LE ammo offered (auction site).

The HST doesn't perform dramatically better than the standard commercial offerings like CorBon DPX, Speer Gold Dot, Rem Golden Saber, etc.

I issue .40SW Federal Bonded Tactical to my guys.

In 9mm, you have 4 flavors of Gold Dot and 3 flavors of Golden Saber and 1 of DPX...oughta be something that meets your criteria.

If you're a 'more power' kinda guy, try Double Tap Ammunition. When I carried a 10mm on duty he loaded up a ton of matched practice and duty ammo for me....definitely the place to get the 'hot stuff' if fps/me trips your trigger.

6 years 4 weeks ago, 9:48 AM

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Thanks TXLUCKYGUY

I was just wanting to try it out.....I usually carry Hornady Critical Defense,Speer Gold Dot, or CorBon DPX. Most of my LE buddies swear by the Speer,so thats what I've been keep in the Glock lately.

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6 years 4 weeks ago, 9:50 AM

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speaking of ammo

VIKINGS ALL THE WAY !!!!!! hahahaha!

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6 years 4 weeks ago, 9:53 AM

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no worries

my pleasure.....as for the Dallas Cowgirls, I quit caring when Landry stopped coaching. Just not worth the disapppointments.

6 years 4 weeks ago, 9:55 AM

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against the Cowboys will change today, LBC? Demarkus Ware is make Brett his Bitch! HaHa!!

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6 years 4 weeks ago, 9:58 AM

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shak buddy we'll see,come back at half time so i can rub it in,lol!!!

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6 years 4 weeks ago, 10:12 AM

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Alright Lucky!

I'll Have to get back to ya after the Cowboys push Farve back into retirement......Going to a playoff party so won't be near a computer at half time! See Ya!

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6 years 4 weeks ago, 10:23 AM

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drink heavily young feller!

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6 years 3 weeks ago, 6:19 PM

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Good in for your Vikings......Bret Farve is still the man! If the 'Boys can't win it all I hope Farve gets one more!!

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6 years 3 weeks ago, 6:39 PM

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shak was the demarcus

ware are you? i was pretty surprised how lopsided the game was,the vike are gonna kick the saints ass too.

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