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Very nice steup

I like this picture a lot.

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Nice Beta Mag.

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5 years 8 weeks ago, 4:20 AM

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And to think 5 minutes ago i was ok with having just 1 AR lol

5 years 8 weeks ago, 5:10 AM

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Hey thanks guys

Gotta have more than one...........isn't that a law or something??

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5 years 8 weeks ago, 11:12 AM

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variety is the spice of life!

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5 years 7 weeks ago, 12:42 PM

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Gotta love variety in every way.

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5 years 7 weeks ago, 6:20 PM

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The one with the scope? or the one with the eotech?

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think that the one hai hai. is very rugged sturdy looking rifle that ryo think have great lines and would enjoy to shoot.

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5 years 7 weeks ago, 6:27 PM

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4 years 50 weeks ago, 6:39 AM

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4 years 49 weeks ago, 1:33 AM

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should i buy a 7.26mm. AR-15 or .556 i found 7.62 AR for $500 but i read they dont feed ammo as well as .556or .223

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4 years 49 weeks ago, 6:35 AM

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If you only want it to punch little holes in paper bad guys or home defense or killing those pesky cans (no, ebear, not mexi-cans, I'm talking about the metal kind....this time), then go with the 5.56 rifle. If you want it to kill deer or make bigger holes in the paper bad guys or for ranch defense, go with the bigger boomstick.

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4 years 49 weeks ago, 8:05 AM

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i want 2 do a little deer hunting,home defence, and yes shot a few paper bad guys. but i read but dont if its true that the7.62`s 30Rd mags jam on the converted AR it sounds like B.S. 2 me u ever hear that?

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4 years 49 weeks ago, 8:11 AM

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I've never heard this

Most 7.62 AR aren't conversions, they're purpose built for 7.62. And most use 20 rd mags. You'll pay more for the 7.62 weapon and ammo, but you'll get a bigger punch. I have a 5.56, but that's because I have over 200 mags for it and I wanted the same caliber as what I use in the army so I could train with it.

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4 years 49 weeks ago, 9:52 AM

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$500 sound like a good deal it in good shape dont know the manufacure

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4 years 49 weeks ago, 10:04 AM

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Not all ARs are created equal. And not many ARs are truly "mil-spec", although most claim to be. Then again, mil-spec doesn't necessarily mean it's the best, either. just saying "Yeah, a .308 AR for 500 is good" isn't a good idea.

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4 years 48 weeks ago, 6:07 AM

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there's ammo out now

in 223 that will take down a good size buck. 77 gr. even 80 gr.

SPECIFICATIONS:
Mfg Item Num: GM223M3
Category: AMMO CENTERFIRE
Caliber :223 Remington
Bullet Type :Sierra MatchKing BTHP
Bullet Weight :77 GR
Muzzle Energy :1295 ft lbs
Muzzle Velocity :2750 fps
Rounds/box :20 Rounds Per Box, 10 Boxes Per Case

Barnes makes 53 grain, 62 grain, and 70 grain triple shock X bullets.
These bullets will penetrate as well as the Nosler Partition. Some say even
better. With most .22 caliber centerfire bullets, a lack of penetration is the
single biggest problem for use on deer.
Most of those bullets are of course designed to blow up
fast for varmint shooting. In addition, the Triple Shock bullets seem to have
a very good reputation for accuracy.

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4 years 48 weeks ago, 10:34 AM

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went in one door and out the other
That's penetration in my book
I would rather hunt with my 30-30 though
to keep arguements down

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4 years 48 weeks ago, 6:28 AM

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.223 for deer

Very few .223 projectiles are adequate for whitetail. The aforementioned 77gr SMK will behave largely like an FMJ....that is, a very small hole with little destruction.

Heavier bonded JSPs and some of the solid copper (Barnes) pills are the only bullets I've seen tested that I'd use on a whitetail. The cartridge itself is marginal at best for game hunting above the varmint class.

Remington is coming out with a 62gr bonded JSP...Federal has their LE Bonded Tactical in 62gr JSP....CorBon, Federal and Black Hills are all using the Barnes bullets in various loadings.

My Lt. used a Hornady TAP T2 75gr BTHP on a smaller whitetail last year....never found it. The hit was solid, but the round was simply not made for game of this sort.

4 years 48 weeks ago, 7:53 AM

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They have killed many a deer with the 223.

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4 years 48 weeks ago, 8:19 AM

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yup,

so have I. My Lt's son used a single-shot .223 for several successful hunts. 'Adequate' is not my favorite cartridge description.

The .223 cartridge is still marginal. It requires careful bullet selection, close attention to barrel length/twist to attain spec'd velocities, and much more careful shot placement/range attenuation than 50 or so better whitetail calibers out there.

I'll place any standard factory hunting round (vanilla JSP) in .30-30. .30-06, .25-06, .270, .308, .45-70, .44Mag, .41Mag, 6.8SPC, 6.5G, 7mm-08, .243, 7mm Rem Mag, 8mm WG, .35 Whelen, 12ga slug, et al, launched within their respective ranges from a standard commercial platform, above the very best, most technically advanced .223/5.56 cartridge. I've chosen a .44 Mag rifle for stand shots under 60yds over the .223, and been glad for it.

It's a varmint caliber, and sub-par for standard game use above the varmint class. It requires the above careful attention and special bullet selection to be efficient on human targets as well. The platform's (AR pattern) widespread use is the only reason the cartridge is so standard in LE.

You could use a .220 Swift, .22WMR, or even a .22LR on whitetail....the above would still apply.

Several of my guys here at work have chosen their .223 for downing already wounded deer....each incident required at least 2 shots (I'd say we get at least 5-10 a year, plus dogs, cattle, etc.). My 12ga works every time with 1 round, but I guess they chose the cooler-looking gun. Young 'uns!

4 years 48 weeks ago, 8:52 AM

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i Have shot many deer with a mini-14 .223 and had no need to track them afterwards,most went down less than a hundred yards after being hit,however that's the rifle i had and was most familiar with and i agree that the .223 is not the best round for deer hunting,and it is not legal here in MN to use on deer( i shot mine in WI),here i use a .50 cal Blackpowder or a 12 gauge slug( they are separate seasons).I have also shot deer with a .357 and a .44 mag pistol,most deer around here and Wisconsin run 200-260 lbs.Shot placement is my biggest concern while hunting and i have passed on deer that would only allow bad shots,although i don't consider a running deer to be a bad shot,that's just good fun.

so i agree that the .223 is better left to putting holes in people than deer,again shot location will decide if they live or die

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4 years 48 weeks ago, 10:37 AM

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4 years 48 weeks ago, 10:39 AM

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they were from the shock of the holes punched in the doors
down in a scrap pile

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4 years 48 weeks ago, 10:51 AM

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That's another difference to throw in the mix.....down here 150lb whitetail is a pretty good back. Having been to the frozen north and seen some gorgeous, fat WI deer, I'd be even more leery of using a .223 on 'em.

Texas mulies can be pretty stout as well; their behavior and habitat seem to combine the very worst of brush-hunting and distance shots (never had much fun hunting them).

Hogs and varmints are the only thing I've hunted since getting hitched....still would love to bag a brown bear someday though. Africa would be great, but I can't see myself getting on a plane ever again without some kind of emergency.

With regards to the original pic......has that lil AR pistol ever given you any problems? I had an Oly Arms pistol a long while ago and never could get it running 100%. Haven't shot any of the ones from RRA, Bushmaster, etc.

4 years 48 weeks ago, 11:04 AM

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do you hunt the hill country?
I've seen some big wt tailes
around Kerville

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