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7 years 20 weeks ago, 10:48 PM

Glock4me

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Hi,

I was published in the North County Times the other day, a newspaper for the San Diego County (north county) residents of California. I invite you to read the article and BOTH post your comments online AND send a Letter to the Editor. I am pushing HARD for accelerated CCW issuance in this county having only my desire to survive a life-threatening attack as my "good cause." I would appreciate your support!

Here is the link

Community Forum Article

And here is the letter:

,cite>As I was filling in my application for a concealed weapons license, I ran across this:

State of California, Department of Justice

Standard Application for Carrying a Concealed Weapon License

Section 7, Investigator's Interview Notes

If the Carrying a Concealed Weapon license is desired for self-protection, the protection of others, or for the protection of large sums of money or valuable property, you are required to explain and provide good cause for issuance of the license.

For example, has your life or property been threatened or jeopardized? Explain incidents and include dates, times, locations and names of police agencies to which these incidents were reported.

Details of Reason for Applicant desiring a CCW license must also be provided (use additional sheets if needed).

So ---- if I read this correctly, the mere fact that I feel my life is worth defending is not "good cause" to receive a permit. My life alone is not deemed to be of sufficient value to afford me, an honest, law-abiding citizen with a squeak- clean record, the means by which to defend myself against an imminent threat to my life that may appear at any moment in the future, without warning.

Someone has to have threatened me, and I would have had to report it. They are telling me that I need to show proof of a series of previous life-threatening situations in which I have, only by the grace of God, escaped while unarmed and defenseless, before they will allow me to have the means to defend myself.

I wonder, if I answer by listing all of the situations in California where some psycho walked into a public place and started blasting away at innocent unarmed civilians while police officers and deputy sheriffs were not around, would that constitute "good cause?"

I'd start with the McDonald's Massacre at San Ysidro, and work my way up the coast.

The audacity of this state, to tell me that I am not worthy of being trusted with the means to defend my own life! It's outrageous.

7 years 20 weeks ago, 9:48 AM

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I'm on it!

I'm on it!

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7 years 20 weeks ago, 3:54 PM

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Glock4me

Well put my friend. maybe at someone's funeral, I think a victims family needs to bring suit for not being able to conceal carry & killed on the streets or a car jacking might be necessary. if I can help let me know, but you seem to be on the right track. CITE, CITE, CITE and screw the ACLU.
Or as I call them Without ACLUe!

samD

7 years 20 weeks ago, 8:29 AM

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Heller Decision

The post started by Glock4me started me thinking. I know most of you just rolled your eyes...here comes a deep philisophical lengthy comment, you might be correct!!

According to the post, California requires you to explain why you "want" a CCW. So, if I read this correctly, in Kalifornia (thank you Samd) in order to exercise your second amendment right, you need to explain why you need to exercise your right? I am very hesitant to ask the next question because I am sure it has already been addressed by the "all knowing" Pelosi. What would happen if you had to explain why you wanted to read the dictionary, or practice your religion of "the force and jedi knights", or heaven forbid; the assembly to protest the government.

Does anyone know if there has ever been any litigation directed at the state of California based on the Heller decision in the Supreme Court?

I guess I have some research do to now.

clint

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7 years 19 weeks ago, 7:01 PM

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Not surprised

Being California, I am not surprised. Before the CCW in Kansas, anyone whose life were being threatened, or was continually in potential danger due to a work or school relationship, could apply for a privately concealed license. It seems like from your post, those are the requirements for CCW under California law. You might just leave out those requested statements and see what happens. If you are denied and have the money and time, I think you could sue based on the Heller decision.

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7 years 19 weeks ago, 7:10 PM

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wow

That is absolutely ridiculous. I can't fathom how that even get instated. It blows my mind.

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7 years 18 weeks ago, 7:45 AM

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wow

Having succesfully completed my Arizona CCW yesterday and learning triple taps, 2 to the heart & 1 to the head it is a good feeling.
I also learned that in Arizona "Open Carry" is a very loose and generous regulation. Per Arizona law, I may carry a loaded handgun on my person so long as part of gun or holster is visible. I may carry loaded in my car, holstered, on seat, in glove box or console. Holstered can also mean in a gun box, bag or piece of luggage. All this can be done Without a CCW.
I will have CCW and will proudly carry, covered or not.
Arizona land of the free...

samD

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