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7 years 17 weeks ago, 6:38 AM

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Firearms Freedom Act

The Firearms Freedom Act (FFA) is sweeping the Nation.

Originally introduced and passed in Montana, the FFA declares that any firearms made and retained in-state are beyond the authority of Congress under its constitutional power to regulate commerce among the states.

Since its passage in Montana, a clone of the Firearms Freedom Act has been enacted in Tennessee, and has been introduced in the legislatures of Alaska, Texas, South Carolina, Minnesota and Florida. Legislators in many other states have announced that they will introduce FFA clones when their legislatures next convene.

The FFA is primarily a Tenth Amendment challenge to the powers of Congress under the "commerce clause," with firearms as the object - it is a state's rights exercise.
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http://www.firearmsfreedomact.com/

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7 years 17 weeks ago, 7:22 AM

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wow

i wish something like this would pass in Illinois, are freedoms are caca

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7 years 17 weeks ago, 7:31 AM

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but we should understand that such legislation is mostly symbolic--- like the flag that says, "Don't Tread on Me", it is a warning to the federal government that usurpation of the rights of the States is coming to a halt, and will be reversed by due process.

That being said, if you plan to open your own ammunition or firearms design and manufacturing company in one of these states, unless you know you can sustain profitability from markets exclusively INSIDE that state, it does not seem that the legislation will stimulate much additional industry, IMO.

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7 years 17 weeks ago, 7:34 AM

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you would think

that this would be a flourishing industry, one of the few in these economic times.

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7 years 17 weeks ago, 8:13 AM

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and here is why, as an example. Let's take Montana as an example. The total population is about one million. Let's say 25% of them are gun enthusiasts-- that's a market of 250 thousand people.
Could you produce a particular popular type of firearm at less expensive a base cost, than the major national or international manufacturers do? And even if you could, could you convince your Montana market that yours are better or as good as the majors are, even though you might be selling yours at a lower price?
You might be able to compete with ammo manufacturers, but building a firearms design and manufacturing business would be a tough long haul, and require mucho dinero.
The other side of the story is why would a major relocate to Montana? That would require multi millions of $$, and they still would have to operate in interstate commerce to be viable, because the Montana market could not sustain them.
Aye--Que Lastima

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7 years 17 weeks ago, 8:19 AM

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ok here is a question

Do you think that people buying guns nowdays are price first quality second or vice versa?

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7 years 17 weeks ago, 10:38 AM

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consider what we call stratified markets, probably by disposable income levels,[meaning after all basic living expenses are taken care of]. My guess is it is not valid to generalize; buyers with limited levels of disposable income are logically going to look at the lowest price firearms, that have reasonably good reviews[unless they have some savings $$ they can add to the picture on a particular purchase.] And those who have much higher disposable income levels will undoubtedly consider quality versus price, generally. The higher the disposable income level, the more inclined they will be to spend more to acquire the piece they have carefully researched and found to be one of "the best".
I think this opinion applies only to new purchases.

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7 years 17 weeks ago, 11:02 AM

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LLE is on target. Symbolism is important
when trying to convey a political message.
The gun buyers in Montana, 1 in 100 MAY
buy an exclusively Montana made gun. The
company making them may have to make plumbing
parts or caskets to earn real money since
apparently, the big markets would not be within reach.
IF the U.S. does not change the political
course it has been on since the 1930's
there is inevitably going to be trouble and
states declaring sovereignty, free staters and laws like FFA
will be building blocks for the "other side".
That is years in the future but it'll happen.

iyaoyas
7 years 17 weeks ago, 11:09 AM

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ok

but then it becomes a black market enterprise, and then that will soon become big business.Then the larger corporations will then take stock in that almost like a wal-mart . To think of all the small business' that shut-down because of wal-mart and such.The internet has brought back allot of free enterprise don'tcha think?

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7 years 17 weeks ago, 2:18 PM

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the right margin. Not sure what point you are making.

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7 years 17 weeks ago, 2:57 PM

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um

i forgot.....oh yeah....clintlibo is a crossdresser

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7 years 17 weeks ago, 4:21 PM

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thank you my whore monger governor

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7 years 17 weeks ago, 5:07 PM

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I thought leather and vinyl was unisex.

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7 years 16 weeks ago, 9:00 PM

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would be supressors. They are really not very expensive to manufacture and the prohibitive price would drop way down without the federal tax and the hoops manufacturers have to jump through. This product probably wouldn't sell well enough for someone to start an entire company for, but existing companies would make a decent profit from it. A supressor and machine gun manufacturer in a large, gun-friendly state like Texas would make quite a bit.

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