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5 years 35 weeks ago, 9:23 PM

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Hello all. I am in the market for my first pistol. Very exciting but nerve racking, because I don't really know what to start out with? I have very limited pistol shooting experience, only shooting my uncle's .45 glock(not sure which model). My price range is 700 and lower. I have large hands so large grips are not a problem as I've read some people have dislikes on some models of the glocks for this reason. If you need to know anything else about me that will effect my enjoyment of my first pistol, please ask. All information is helpful as I'm not just new to this site, but new to the pistol community. Thanks!

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5 years 35 weeks ago, 9:32 PM

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Hello, Mizzoudude12

Welcome to the site Mizzoudude12. I would go with the pistol that fits great in your hand and you like the feel of it. I myself do not like the Glock pistols. Since you are talking about spending $700 or less you can choose a Taurus 940 or 945 or the 24/7 OSS pistol. Any 1911 pistol would be good or Springfield's. Is this pistol for just at home or carry? Where are you from?

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5 years 35 weeks ago, 9:19 AM

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I would suggest glock or XD for a first pistol because of simplicity and reliability. see if you can find a range where you can try both in a variety of calibers (9mm, .40, .45)

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5 years 35 weeks ago, 9:26 PM

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this pistol is going to be a recreational handgun and i am from missouri. i will also in the future be wanting to add some spice to it the form of a suppressor(silencer), laser sight, and flash light. So a gun with alot of accessory options is a must. Where can i search on the Internet for a nearby range to go and try some different pistols out? I'm from the st. louis area so im sure there are some around. Right now I'm leaning towards a Glock 21, because I kind of want a .45. Thanks for the advice!

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5 years 30 weeks ago, 7:46 AM

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cant go wrong with a glock.if you buy the glock look into the gssf glock shooting sport foundation.they hold matches all over united states they are alot of fun.

5 years 35 weeks ago, 10:58 PM

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Mizzoudude12, you do know that a suppressor and a silencer are controlled parts by the BATF don't you? Having either one that isn't registered through their offices is frowned on by the BATF. Please don't think I'm talking down at you. I apologize to you if my reply sounds that way. I just want to save you some money for fines and maybe some jail time if you didn't know about them being illegal. They can be had legally if you have the money to spend on them, and jump threw the rings that the BATF require. A suppressor and a silencer are not entirely the same animal. A silencer will silence a gun completely, where a suppressor will only muffle the sound down quite a bit from it's usual loud sound on the DB scale. The blast from the powder ignition from the cartridge can be suppressed and even silenced but, the bullets you shoot out of your pistol that travels faster than subsonic speed can't be silenced. When a faster than subsonic bullet breaks the sound barrier after leaving your pistol's barrel, it will make a noise that no silencer can silence and no suppressor can muffle down. Contrary to what you may have seen on TV, a revolver can't be suppressed or silenced. The cylinder to barrel gap on a revolver allows hot gasses, flames, and unwanted noise to come out of that gap. The quietest silenced firearms that I've ever seen are .22 caliber semi-auto pistols, shooting subsonic ammo, and have a sealed action. I've shot them and if put together correctly and using subsonic ammo, you only hear the working of the action when fired. Some special soldiers in Viet Nam were issued and used the Ruger MK 1 model in .22 caliber and a couple of High Standard .22 caliber models. These military silenced pistols were silenced directly at the factory of the maker and tested before being sent to the military. I hope this help you in some way and saves you money or a trip to Club Fed courtesy of the BATF.

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5 years 35 weeks ago, 11:06 PM

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thanks for the reply! yes i will be getting one LEGALLY in the future, as I only have the money for the gun at this point plus registering fees, etc. I didn't know there was a difference between a silencer and suppressor so thanks for that. I appreciate the concern for a fellow firearm lover and don't take it as being looked down upon, but rather friendly advice. Thanks!

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5 years 35 weeks ago, 9:25 AM

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if you're looking into a G21, check out the G21SF also... the G21SF frame is not nearly as bulky, and was produced because of the number of complaints that glock received about the G21 grip/frame. It fits my hand much better

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 4:59 PM

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if this is going to be a range gun look at the glock 34 or glock 17 these are 9mm great guns and easy to trickout and cheap to shoot.i like glocks but if you want a 45 nothing feels like a good 1911.

5 years 31 weeks ago, 8:37 PM

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You can get a good new ruger of beretta for that kind of money. I had a Glock, liked it but could not get the accuracy I wanted. I traded for a Ruger Black hawk. Very happy. I also like Walther pistols......
Rent a few guns before you buy ba gun you can not shoot well.

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 8:44 PM

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Holy crap, scarecrow

There is no difference between a silencer and supressor. Silencer is a term used by people who don't know. Mizzoudude, if you have large hands and are interested in .45, don't overlook the Sig or HK line of pistols. You can get excellent guns used at much lower prices. It is almost impossible to wear out a modern gun and not difficult to inspect a used gun for defects or damages. For 700 dollars, a HK USP 45 used is not at all out of the realm of possibility and you have money left for mags and ammo.

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 9:47 PM

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1911 or Glock

Here is my theory on your money in your hands today...
700 or less, you can choose mostly any glock model which has a total of 33 moving parts which hardly break down.
Or you can spend 700 on a "rough" used 1911 model that has 1911 parts that are going to break down on you and you may wind up spending another 700 to fix the damn thing.
If you have shot a glock, you were with the right people from the get go

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 9:49 PM

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A Town Stomp?

A-Town PA? if you are in the area, cool. message me.
I am in W-hall. been around the gun scene a long time.

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 8:19 PM

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How many 1911's have you bought or owned? I have 3 and am more then willing to bet my life on them. And as to the term $700 for a "rough used 1911", Well that's just plain stupid! I haven't paid more then $600 new for either of the three I own, all new.

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 9:22 PM

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I have owned 3 in the past... never will own one again.
I sold all 3 to purchase Glocks... I sold them for over 750 each. they were very old and very in need of high maintenance to keep them going.
It is not that stupid when in PA, a cheap 1911 is about 700 to start.
And since January 20, there has been a surge of firearms and ammunition shortages nationwide. Sometimes, you can't be as choosy.
I won't own a 1911 unless it is brand new and the price says FREE on it.

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 8:23 PM

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As for your recommendation about the xd's, While I love them, I have one concern. One of the biggest features I love about the XD is the safeties, or lack there of. Yes they have three built in, but I'm not sure I would recommend this pistol to an in-experienced shooter. I'm not sure of Mizz's shooting experience, this is just a general statement.

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 8:16 PM

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well, mizz said he had shot a glock.... and the XD is basically a glock with an extra safety (grip), so I assume he would be fine. Any gun is dangerous if you don't know what you're doing, even if it has 13 safetys. I was just saying that they are good reliable guns that won't have any problems functioning. I would recommend one to for my mother, so why can't mizz play? I guess I figured he would be responsible with the weapon like any gun owner should be... after all i can't (in good concsious) go around recommending a super soaker, that is unless its the... oh wait, I did...
http://www.gunslot.com/forum/hey-everyone-2#comment-16887

So I guess I was just assuming that Mizz isn't a dumb blonde, maybe that is a bad assumption?

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 6:35 PM

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While there is a higher possibility of ND with XD or Glock, revolvers and many Sigs lack manual safeties. Bad gunhandling skills are the culprit, not switches or levers.

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 1:47 AM

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I'm not going to disagree with either of you. Safety starts between the ears. The lack of any safety buttons is what caught my eye for the XD's in the first place. To many times have I seen a person try and fire a gun on safe when it really counted. It's just a factor I feel needs to be considered.

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