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1 year 46 weeks ago, 3:03 PM

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Gettysburg Address

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation, so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate, we can not consecrate, we can not hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

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1 year 46 weeks ago, 6:21 AM

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This is a very fitting reminder for the "ME GENERATION", as to just one of the ways the USA became the greatest country on the face of the earth. We had to learn the hard way-- unfortunately, in blood---that despite the vast diversity of our national character--the "United" part of the United States was the paradigm for future greatness.

But alas, I believe we have forgotten the lessons our developmental history taught us. We are morphing into a generation whose value system seems to take pleasure in "I can get something for nothing", as long as the post 1965 progressives are able to leech and redistribute the productive results of hard work and successful enerprise, to the indolent takers. If this national behavior pattern continues and expands, I believe our already-spreading disunity will result in another "great civil war". It may very well be a bloodless war, because the PRODUCERS will leave this unrewarding scene, and leave the TAKERS to fight over the dregs of the remaining failed nanny state.
Perhaps, such a shameful result, is what Ben Franklin was pointing toward, when he uttered those famous words, ".......a republic, if you can keep it".

Too old to fight, Too old to run, guess that's why I carry a gun! "would someone show this asshole the way out of town".[Rabbi Avram Belinski-aka "The Frisco Kid"]
1 year 46 weeks ago, 9:20 AM

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You got it right, I don't know what the future has in store for our great country, but a change must be made. Years ago I read "Atlas Shrugged", what a great book. The gist of the book was that the progressive/socialists had taken over. Those who built this great nation finally said F it and just quit and left. It did not take long for it all to fall apart, there are many similarities to today. A favorite quote of mine is from Margaret Thatcher, "the problem with socialism, is that eventually, you run out of other peoples money".

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1 year 46 weeks ago, 11:32 AM

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I dig Ayn Rand

I guess that makes me a Galtist. I have quoted the devine Thatcher several times here, intimating that when we lose the Producers, Margaret's pronouncement will become a lot clearer to the Takers.

But alas, no amount of shrugging will reduce the pain level for those poor idiots.

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1 year 46 weeks ago, 1:10 PM

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I guess you would have to dig her, since she is dead, shrugged Atlas...

1 year 46 weeks ago, 1:14 PM

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The amount of takers now is massive, and the best part of it all is most of these people can't even take care of themsleves. We had a bad storm up here almost a year ago. We had plenty of notice however, the day after the storm, there was a lot of people on the news crying about how they did not have food or water. Really, the day after the storm, you also saw it a larger scale with Katrina. How many people were just lost when left to their own devices. I've seen in Chicago where these moms have 10 kids, no fathers paying support, we pay to house them, feed them and clothe them. Then we pay the grand mom over $150,000 to help raise them because it is too much for the single mom to handle.

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1 year 46 weeks ago, 3:33 PM

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My wife and I

Just spent the last two days in DC, toured Arlington National Cemetary. Inspiring.

Margaret is not yet dead, but due to strokes she is an 87 year old recluse, poor gal.

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1 year 46 weeks ago, 3:49 PM

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Arlington

It awe inspiring when you visit there, I know it is not easy for people to visit there if you are not from the area. I have yet to visit the Library of Congress and have not spent much time at the smithsonian. Living as close as I do, there is only myself to blame. The wife and I are planning a trip to Montecello this summer as well.

It is a shame about Margaret, but she is a great woman and history will look upon her life very well.

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1 year 46 weeks ago, 7:50 PM

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Hi guys. I saw the reference to "Atlas Shrugged" great book. If you guys are readers try a book called "DUPES" by Paul Kangor. In my opinion (humble) it gives a greater view of the battle going on in the GREAT USA. At least take the time to google it. Thanks.

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1 year 46 weeks ago, 8:11 PM

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Beaverhunter

I was familiar with Paul Kangor however, I have yet to read one of his books. Well, that will change, went on barnes and nobles site and a copy will be at my house by wednesday. I am just finishing up with Tom Clancey's latest offering and will look forward to reading it.

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1 year 46 weeks ago, 12:04 AM

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Tom Clancey

Have never read Tom Clancey. But in the spirit, I will buy his latest offering tomorrow. And I also am looking forward to reading it.

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1 year 46 weeks ago, 7:28 AM

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Clancey

His books were written in a linear fashion, his first book was "The Hunt For Red October". Ron Raegan had said it was his favorite book after he read it when it fisrt came out in the early 80's. I read it and have been a fan of his ever since, even getting to meet him and sign my prized first edition. If you like it, go back to the first one and read them in order.

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